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Sep 28, 04
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its so dangerous too, so many linked deaths to it lol, imagenary bugs, haha
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Sep 28, 04
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Hey Egor doesnt need no fuckin Datura for that do you man :)
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you missed a few
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^YES WITH PIX OUR ATTENTION SPANS ARE 2 SHORT FOR ONLY WERDZ
PS.. fyi You entirely skipped the dissassociatives. They work basically by numbing your brains connection to the conventional senses, effectively boosting your sensitivity to extra sensory/spiritual type stuff. Kinda like how music sounds brighter when you turn the bass down. Ketamine: A very powerful 'utility hallucinogen' as I call it, because it has a variety of uses. Small doses equal fun wobbly times with no real comedown effects. Larger doses give extremely powerful psychadellic effects, not nearly as set-and-setting bound as LSD and mushrooms are. IE if you do a large dose, it'll get you really high, no matter what. If your just sitting around at home, it can end up being more of a psychadellic heroin sorta high. But in a more psychadellic environment (like a forest, or room with a blacklight and cool visuals) it can be truly cosmic. Really boosts the creative output too I've found. Don't forget to try it with acid :) DXM: FUCKIN WIERD. The stuff in cough syrup, although you can get it in gelcaps as well. It's responsible for cartoon works of wierdness such as Sealab, The Brak Show, and pretty much anything else made by MC Chris :) It's alot like K but lasts 10 times as longer, and is alot more oogey feeling. Don't rail it. Nitrious: Yeah, the whip cream cannisters. Funny how they're a pretty powerful dissassociative... Now I understand why whip cream is so fuckin good. Nitrious gives you jedi mind powers for about 30 seconds and causes you to laugh your ass off about them. It's great training for perpetuating your own headspace though. Try it on mushrooms. Seriously. PCP: Most likely the drug that Mr T secretly habituated throughout the 80s. It's like ketamine, but being drunk instead of cosmic and trippy. You get the same wierd thoughts that k brings you, but you have a tendency to act them out before thinking them. Not recommended if you get violent easily when drunk. Otherwise, it's quite fun :) I'll post more later if I feel like it. Last edited by Rytalin; Oct 07, 04 at 04:36 PM.
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anyways talk to you tomorrow!~
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Oct 07, 04
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I would suggest doing mushrooms first, then acid. Mushrooms are a way shorter trip, which means if you do react poorly the first time, you arn't stuck there for 8+ hours...
Check Erowid for dose measurements by weight for mushrooms. Try are pretty accurate.
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Oct 08, 04
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Remember the old internet saying, "Stop being an idiot and I'll stop being an asshole"? :D Just do yourself a favor, and don't touch the datura until you've done alot of tripping/psychonautical exploring on substances that are less wierd, like the acid and mushrooms.
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Oct 08, 04
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The thing with Datura is that if you take enough, you won't be there to experience it, and all you will remember are faint pieces of what happened. Also while on it, you don't get frightened like on mushrooms, but instead everything seems natural, just like in a dream.
Dont Forget DMT: You have to smoke enough the first time, for the tolerance develops rather quickly and taking more within an hour will not intensify the effects. 20 - 30 seconds a buzzing starts in the ears, rising in tone and volume to an incredible intensity. Its like cellophane being ripped apart (or the fabric of the universe being torn asunder). Your body will vibrate in sympathy with this sound, and you will notice a sharp blood pressure rise. You may feel like you are deeply under water. Wearing a unitard or leotard and tights helps to minimize this sensation. Your visual field will also vibrate in resonance to the sound and will finally be completely obscured by the visions. 30 seconds - 1 minute You break through into DMT hyperspace. Often at this point, users believe that their hearts or breathing have stopped. This is not true. To an outside observer, you are breathing normally and your pulse, while elevated, is strong. We believe that this subjective effect is due to your "internal clock" being slowed so greatly that the subjective time interval between breaths or heartbeats seems like an eternity. Synthetic DMT has been extensively tested by medical authorities here and in Europe. It is perfectly safe with no lasting physical effects at these doses. However, since smoked DMT causes an abrupt blood pressure increase, it is probably not good for people with abnormally high blood pressure. 1 minute - 2 - 5 minutes depending on dosage: DMT hyperspace. For all practical purposes, you will no longer be embodied. You will be part of tne intergalactic information network. You may experience any of the following:
At the end of the "flash" of the visions you will have an after-vision of circular interlocking patterns in exquisite colors. It has been described as looking at a vaulted ceiling or dome. If you did not "breakthrough" to the levels described above, this "chrysanthemum" pattern, as we call it, is all you will see. It is worth the trip, too. You may begin to wonder how you will ever find your way back to your body. If you have taken enough DMT to fully "breakthrough", by the time you can even wonder about it, you are almost back. Trust in your own wetware; your psyche and your body will be reunited. Worrying will only prolong the process. 5 - 12 minutes The visions have subsided. There are still patterns when you close your eyes, but with eyes open the world is back. At this point a flood of information may rush through your mind. The phase is fleeting. In order to preserve your DMT ideation, we recommend that you begin talking as soon as you come out of the visionary state. Don't try for complete sentences but get as many ideas out as you can while you can. Have a tape recorder running during the trip and you can review your thoughts at a later time. 15 - 30 minutes The ideation flood subsides leaving you euphoric. You may still have a trace of the vibrations in your body. 30 - 60 minutes The euphoria subsides. 60+ minutes You are completely down.
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Oct 08, 04
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If u wanna try hallucinogens - In my opinion acid is the way 2 go, but maybe try mushrooms 1st. If U like mushrooms, u'll love acid. When I'm on acid I don't like 2 B around a lot of people... especially sober people. Do it with people U know tho @ 1st --- don't stay inside, I doubt U'll B able 2 keep urself inside if U do. Try 2 get Southpark or cartoon acid - that shits the bomb. I would'nt start off with 7 hits tho LOL, maybe 2 or 3 ... my 1st time I only did 1 & it was enuf 4 me - allthough @ the time I was only about 100lbs. Another good idea would be 2 trip with some1 who has done it b4 ---trippiest place I've ever been on tha shyt ~ inside a hospital. KRAZZZY! :361: ... Also U just gotta stare in a mirror about 2-3 hours after u drop ... DOWNLOAD : LIL' WYTE - "ACID"
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Oct 09, 04
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Oct 11, 04
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Datura isn't an hallucinogen ..
Like somebody said before, it's a delirium drug.. It has nothing to do with hallucinogens.. Even if it can be somewhat fun, i don't see the point of doing it, because overall it's not fun .. you can talk to the plants around you, or have a conversation to your couch, but you get nothing out of it finally... And IT IS very dangerous, i don't recommend anybody to try it.. Hallucinogens don't just make you see stuff, but they show you stuff, they give you something, unless your stupid about it and take too much .. Shrooms are perfect for somebody who never tried hallucinogens before because you can take as little or as much as you want.. you can take 1 g the first time, 2 the second and 5 the third time or whatever !! The point is that you can dose it pretty well.. LSD is in my taste better, but isn't "stronger" than mushrooms as people like to think.. Psilocybin/psilocin (What is active in shrooms) are really potent and active substances. It's just that usually people relatively dose more LSD than shrooms. But a real shroom experience (Level 5) is a really profound experience comparable to a profound LSD trip .. DMT is the ultimate hallucinogen though ! Somebody who never tried hallucinogens should not take that though.. But DMT visuals are wayyyyyyyy better than any visuals you can get with any psychedelic drugs.. It's really quick too, it lasts between 5 and 20 minutes if you're lucky.. It is also really profound but in another meaning completely than LSD or shrooms.. IMO DMT is the shit !! It shows you everytime something new, something really crazy and makes you think a lot about the world and life; which is the essence of the psychedelic culture .. Ayacuasca which is an oral dose of DMt taken with MAOI's (there's plenty of recipes for it) is a really psychedelic experience too, longer than DMT with less visuals but still really profound.. The best thing about it is that you can buy the plants to brew it and their all legals and the recipes are quite easy! Ketamine can be psychedelic too at high doses like somebody reported it.. however it has nothing to do with psychedelic drugs either .. Dissociatives are not that much fun, they get you fucked up and that's it .. DXM and PCP are is pur shit and are not psychedelic.. Salvia is really psychedelic too if taken right.. It's a really strong substance too but not as strong as DMT.. I'd recommend a first time user to try that in low doses.. Everything is possible with salvia but at the same time most of the time very funny! I love it ! Still gotta try that 2c-b.. Damn it's hard to find that shit.. But it looks pretty cool ! There is other psychedelic drugs like 2 c-t-7, 2 c-t-4 but and more but i don't recommend those to anybody unless one reads a lot about it and uses it in a smart way .. Mescaline can also be psychedelic.. Nothing to say about it ..
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Oct 11, 04
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wow everyone, i actually got around to reading all of this, great feedback, thank you...
so far I am looking in the direction of dmt, but I will surely try shrooms and lsd first. thank you.
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Oct 11, 04
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Good choice my friend !
It's very wise to try shrooms and lsd first .. And i think it's a good idea to aim at DMT ! However even if DMT is the most hallucinogenic of all hallucinogens, LSD and shrooms are still really good since they give something different.. very different.. LSD is more like a journey in another world where you can learn, hallucinate and trip for a longggg time since DMT gives you everything at once ! Both have their specific caracteristics which make both of them on the same level.. Like rytalin says so wisely, i think you gotta go slow with DMT, try it first with small doses.. You don't play with the most powerfull Hallucinogen known to man like a kid !! ;) Last edited by Adam; Oct 11, 04 at 11:42 AM.
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Oct 12, 04
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I guess they can be psychedelic in a certain way.. But in my experience they're nothing compared to a real LSD/psilocybin/DMT experience (/means "or" or "and" or "and/or" !!hehe !) . They're really hard on the body and not as much fun. And they're not considered Psychedelic drugs either, they're dissociatives.. But everybody has it's own taste and trip differently.. Some people trip better on dissociatives than psychedelics and vice-versa. I'm just one of those who kinda hate dissociatives and loves psychedelics !!
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Oct 12, 04
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you guys know so much about drugs its trippy.
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Oct 12, 04
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nope, the only hallucinogenic thing i have ever done is caramelized absinth.
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Oct 12, 04
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I dunno.. I definetly consider dissassociatives to be part of the psychadellics family, although they do go about things in quite a different way. Because they dissassociate you from your normal perceptions, you can pretty much make the trip as psychadellic or un-psychadellic as you want.
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