*Help*anyone experianced with testing E, or with powder mdma.

[liquidblue]

After long searching I have come across some suposedly pure powdered MDMA... anyways Im really interested in finding the real deal so for all of you that know tests heres what iv gathered so far...

Marquis- turns DARK purple to Black instantaneously and there are lots of bubbles

Mandelin- turns dark black very fast... but on the outskirts of the solution where its still clear if it runs along the plate after a lil while it has a greenish tinge... (speed like?) Oh and the Mandelin also forms a bunch of bubbles right away like the marquis test.

anyways what concernes me is the colour/smell of the powder, I dont have much experiance with MDMA powder and this is not quite what I expected, the substance is a faint yellowish colour... and it has a very strong harsh chemicaly smell. Anyways Im not exactly sure why the powder is like this, like maby its normal I really dont have enough experiance to know yet. I was thinking that the bubbly reaction was maby caused by the mdma not being fully synthed and there being left over chemical product? Im not too sure, if anyone has any input on what the powder should be like, or has any idea as to why the reagents bubbled when testing that would be great.

Oh on a side note the roll was very smooth and def mdma like, quite enjoyable, although the sence of well being only really lasted for about 30 min, (the high lasted much longer of course) but I think that was due to a low dosage.

Thanks all

[mapleleaf4ever]

I had a large Bag of pure MDMA once. You'll know it's pure when you open the Door in the Morning after you've been up all night sticking your Fingers in the Bag and you walk outside into the Sunshine and feel like a Million Dollars but not overly hungry. :p

[MC Hammered]

Originally Posted by liquidblue

Oh on a side note the roll was very smooth and def mdma like, quite enjoyable, although the sence of well being only really lasted for about 30 min, (the high lasted much longer of course) but I think that was due to a low dosage.

Since you do not know the purity/concentration of the supposed MDMA you have how do you know if you took a "low" dose?

Anyway the power should look a faint yellow colour, it should smell like liquorice and if indeed you have a high quality power if you handled it with bare hands you would get high as it will enter your body through the pores in your skin.

Unless you know the source I'm pretty sure your powder isn't pure and has been diluted/cut with something. That's what the bubbling reveals... what it is no one really know unless you run a sample in a GCMS.

If you can reveal the $/gram ratio one could tell from that pretty quick as pure MDMA isn't cheap.

[NekoRaver]

Pure MDMA powder is white and should have a faint smell of aniseed/black liquorice. The faint yellowish color suggests it's cut with something but you can't really tell the ratio of MDMA to whatever else may be in it. EZ test marquis tests for DXM which shows up as bubbling which is what you got.. but yours just sounds like MDMA cut with alittle speed.

[FeelGood]

pure mdma powder is very expensive.

like with winston said, find out how much it is gram/$ ratio, and we could probably tell you if its pure.

[liquidblue]

Hrm, I hear ya about the price of mdma powder being high, but i usually get stuff for quite cheap. the powder is $40/gram. But iv never payed more than $4 a tab either and ususally get it cheaper than that. I dont think price is a very good indicator in this place.

Iv read that mdma powder has a liqurice like smell to it... but iv never actually smelled it to know exactly what thats like. What does speed smell like? Iv def never smelled speed, and hope i never do :P lol

[MC Hammered]

All I can say is you get what you pay for and from what you have recounted I'd say you got burned.

As for the liquorice smell? Go buy a pack of black liqurice and give it a sniff. Good powder smells that strong.

[liquidblue]

ok cool, thanks for the input guys. This is preaty much what I figured just wanted it verified.

[DefJef]

Originally Posted by mapleleaf4ever

I had a large Bag of pure MDMA once. You'll know it's pure when you open the Door in the Morning after you've been up all night sticking your Fingers in the Bag and you walk outside into the Sunshine and feel like a Million Dollars but not overly hungry. :p

Best analogy ever.

[pbreak]

Originally Posted by MC Hammered

Unless you know the source I'm pretty sure your powder isn't pure and has been diluted/cut with something. That's what the bubbling reveals... what it is no one really know unless you run a sample in a GCMS.
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Definitely the only way to actually tell what you have is with a GC/MS, but even then if you want to do a quantitative analysis you have to have a pure source to compare it to. Not like this really matters because you obviously dont' have a GC/MS and probably don't have access to one... so listen to what winston said (although I'm pretty sure you cant' get high via osmosis with MDMA).

[MC Hammered]

Originally Posted by pbreak

so listen to what winston said (although I'm pretty sure you cant' get high via osmosis with MDMA).

It's not osmosis and you can get high from handling the powder without gloves. Well... if you have high quality powder I guess.

Your skin breathes, it has pores. You handle the powder and it gets abosorbed through your skin, into your system and away you go!

That's why you are supposed to wear gloves when handling powder.

Don't ask how I know these things. :c-tard:

[Filo]

the strong liqourice smell is prob the easiest way to tel... when u actually do smell a bag of Pure you'll understand.

gettin shit pure and makin your own pills wsa so much better than the shit mix form other people

[Carrie]

I'd love to have a bag of pure.

[mapleleaf4ever]

It's annoying when you get a small Baggie that you actually have to Dry from paste into Powder because a. It smells funky and b. I WANT TO DO IT NOW!(!)$(*!)($*!(

But that was awhile ago...

[decypher]

definately if it smells like licorice. It can be an off white color too.
I tried it once up at a lake in kelowna. Everything was bright, smooth and amazing.

[Carrie]

bright smooth and amazing.
fuck yeah

[Carrie]

Originally Posted by Carrie

bright smooth and amazing.
fuck yeah

wait. the water right?

[pbreak]

Originally Posted by MC Hammered

It's not osmosis and you can get high from handling the powder without gloves. Well... if you have high quality powder I guess.

Your skin breathes, it has pores. You handle the powder and it gets abosorbed through your skin, into your system and away you go!

That's why you are supposed to wear gloves when handling powder.

Don't ask how I know these things. :c-tard:

os·mo·sis ( P ) Pronunciation Key (z-mss, s-)
n. pl. os·mo·ses (-sz)

1)Diffusion of fluid through a semipermeable membrane from a solution with a low solute concentration to a solution with a higher solute concentration until there is an equal concentration of fluid on both sides of the membrane.

2)The tendency of fluids to diffuse in such a manner.

We're talking about the same thing... and I dont' deny that you could get high from handling it, but you would have to handling a LOT of it, and sweating like a bastard because first off it would have to dissolve first and your skin has defences against outside intruders entering through your pores. I'm pretty sure the only reason you want to wear gloves is to not contaminate the product itself.

but anyway... none of this has anything to do with the guys original question so I'm gonna stop now.

[MC Hammered]

I'm not talking about osmosis, I'm referencing simple absorbtion through the skin. Realize it's a chemical you are handling. It will interact with the moisture and oils on your skin and then be absorbed that way. You won't get wrecked but you'll feel a buzz for sure.

Next time you get a gelcap of good MDMA powder... take some between your fingers and just gently rub it like you would with some sand to feel the texture.

If the powder is of high quality I'll bet you'll get a buzz shortly after you do that as that is pretty close to what I did by accident once handling the stuff.

[Rytalin]

Melt a bit on a spoon.
The faster it turns orange, the purer it is.

If it turns yellow, thats speed in there.

[liquidblue]

Really? thats some fregan usefull information. Like a bright organe? i gotta try this just for the cool factor :)

[optimum sound]

got to remember to bring my spoon to the next party!! how bout a spork? will that do?

[Crazy Dave]

Originally Posted by MC Hammered

All I can say is you get what you pay for and from what you have recounted I'd say you got burned.

As for the liquorice smell? Go buy a pack of black liqurice and give it a sniff. Good powder smells that strong.

This is only true if it was produced with a certain method. But also you can get MDA and MDE with the same smell. I've been told that the smell and yellow color is from unreacted Saffron oils in this process.

The purist MDMA has little smell and is waxy, not crystalline. The MDMA salt does not bind well to it's self in to form larger crystalline molecules, but will make covalent bonds quickly at room temperature and with very little pressure.