Oct 11, 06
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Jan Bulis is a hack
dammit why did we get rid of baumgartner and carter , some of the players we got are iffy. overall they are playin pretty good hockey though, ikea line is on a powerplay every time they touch the puck really. just need some secondary scoring luongo is playin great ! 
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Oct 11, 06
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With Naslund playing with the sedins we have no balance cause our second line can do dicksquat. Yesterday Pyatt did score but d sedin was on the ice too. With carter on the wing for the sedins and naslund playing with mo and pyatt would have balanced our forwards out. but no we pay a kessler 1.9 million. oh well
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Oct 11, 06
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Mangle... do you even know what the hell you are talking about???
Mitchell is playing wicked, and Ohlund is a freakin rock on D. Even Pronger, Neidermayer and Lidstrom make mistakes on occasion. Overall when it comes to the nucks this year, I'm liking the energy and the commitment to defence. Wait until the team becomes less in Awe of Luongo and they start clearing the rebounds or whatnot. Pyatt needs to go down to the 3rd line. He will be a good player in front of the net since he's a giant, but he needs to look a little less awkward before he can stay on the second line. A lot of big players take a while to get adjusted to their size.
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Oct 11, 06
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Oct 11, 06
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Jan Bulis wanted to prove his is a 30+ goal season scorer...well, he sure blew chunks on his breakaway shootout attempt...and Daniel Sedin had really nothing to shoot at by the time he got over to the net.
Is it me, or did anyone not notice how Luongo was outpositioned in the shootout? What I mean by this is that by the time the player shot, Luongo was already pretty deep in the net and therefore it opened up the top half of the net by a lot (glove side where he got owned). All I saw was a large area of blue ice in front of our goalie when the puck went by him..not so much with the wild's goalie :(
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Oct 12, 06
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^ dude luongo was a 70 something % in the shootout last year. He is still adjusting to the shootout. I was all over him too, but overall he was good in the shootout last year almost 75%.
stopping 3 out 4 shots isn't bad. give him time. i'm more worried about secondary scoring
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Oct 12, 06
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Secondary scoring I will agree with you on that. But also defense coverage is another factor. You don't need to win hockey games by 4 goals, you just need to be a well balanced team. Roberto Luongo can make 2 or 3 saves in a row, but he may also let up a soft rebound and the defence has the job of preventing any secondary scoring opportunities from their opposition by clearing these errand rebounds. Most of the goals scored on Luongo this season have come by poor defensive plays and not necessarily secondary scoring drought. Minnisota Wild could have scored more on Canucks and vica versa. Other great teams get their offense shut down too...look at Florida when they lost something like 2-1 or something? Auld made 47 saves on 50 shots and Bertuzzi was NOWHERE to be found after registering 4points in his first game. But that is just the case so far this season...we'll see what adjustments to the team will have to be done during the course of the race to the playoffs. Not to mention if there will be some big trades come the trading season..maybe we can pick up more offense *cough*and rid of Kesler*cough* Last edited by Antenna_Boy; Oct 12, 06 at 08:29 AM.
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Oct 12, 06
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Neither Mitchell nor anyone else on d is clearing rebounds. Every other goal scored on Luongo is a puck left floating around the crease (or lovingly kicked in, thank you Krajicek). Ohlund is a chump who isn't in the same league as Pronger, Neidermayer, or Lidstrom. How many Norris wins/nominations does Ohlund have compared to those other guys? None to a shitload? I'd take any of the three you mentioned over that meatball Ohlund any day. Hell, I'd take another Willie Mitchell over him. At least Mitchell is Canadian.
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Oct 12, 06
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Go ask any top sniper in the northwest how much of a chump ohlund is.
Plus he's a hell of a lot better than willie mitchell and mitchell is a wicked d-man. I do agree they have to clear the rebounds better but they are in awe of the saves Luongo is making... Give it an adjusment period. The new style of canucks play is actually fun to watch even though they don't score as much
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Oct 12, 06
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He was runner up for the calder in his rookie season though it wasn't the best class still.
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Oct 12, 06
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mangle: i'm starting to doubt your hockey mind. ohlund hasn't been great these 4 games, but any canucknucklehead can tell you he's been the only thing close to a defensive blanket as this team has ever had.
not to mention you're shitting on guys closing out a road trip. traditionally, WE GIVE THESE GAMES AWAY. bringing up last years' stats? you're bringing up the #1 defenceman's plus/minus on a team that had major injuries on defence, lost its starting goalie and didn't make the playoffs. i don't think it's mathematically possible for a #1 defenceman to have a PLUS rating on such a poor team. BTW: your great pronger was +2 last year. jesus h. christ. and a burned out luongo? UM, his whole fucking gimmick is heavy work load. i'd be worried if the guy only saw 15-20 shots a night. and then he goes and plays for canada in the world championships. sounds like he's really burned out after facing like 400 more shots then the next NHL goalie. if you reference a bum like kypreos...you don't know shit son.
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Oct 13, 06
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he came from a team with waaaay shittier defence than vancouver and still managed to stop 92.5% of the shots on net over the last 2 seasons. not to mention he getting over 30 shots at him per game over the last 2 seasons as well (some nights he was getting over 50 shots on net), and still managed a 2.35 GAA over the last 2 seasons with one of the shittiest teams in the NHL. now imagine what he can do with a team like vancouver. Last edited by Skitzo_Style; Oct 13, 06 at 05:49 AM.
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Oct 13, 06
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^hope you does not get toooo comfortable in the net with (hopefully) lesser shots on him :(
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Oct 13, 06
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^ yea but the panthers team he was on was brutal in every way and he still got a winning record last year. While facing about 2500 shots against, and he's faced over 2000 3 years straight.
you should look at his Career Save% .919 when facing that many shots is impressive. He isn't looking too well tonight though. I think its the first time he's looked really shakey on a few off these goals *grier goal*
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Florida should not have even been as close as they actually were. Luongo was awesome last year. I do agree the Canucks need secondary scoring, and better defensive coverage still. Thats the major flaw so far this season it seems, is clearing rebounds. Game in game out its been rebounds, and the lack of scoring.
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