for people who aren't in school... - Page 11

diva · #**251** (**permalink**) Mar 07, 07

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ Sw@t

Also I think most schools end up being money scams. My boyfriend went to a school that went bankrupt. Which ment even if he had 100% grade wouldn't matter cause the school now did not excist!

Someone should have told your boyfriend that the Derek Zoolander Center For Children Who Can't Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too, only exists in the movies.

=(

Ree Fresh · #**252** (**permalink**) Mar 07, 07

Quote:

Originally Posted by *SunShyne*

I don't think my excuse for not going to school is weak.

Actualy, I dont think you or Ista have given even ONE good example of what ppl can really do to "open their eyes" or "learn from experiences out side the class room".

Try these:

-Travel for 3+ months by your self
-Teach and Travel
-Par take in a program that helps build communities (nationally/internationally)
-Train and play in a sport/art PROFESSIONALLY
-Train as an apprentice for a career field your interested in
-Work or do projects that relate to a career field your interested in
-Start a business
-Have a child

All of the above are some examples of things ppl can learn VALUABLE experiences from that you DONT learn in the class room. They dont require any education, but they are still life learning lessons, steps that help you towards a career, or things that require much work and dedication. People recognize these as things you have achieved. Much like achieving a degree.

diva · #**253** (**permalink**) Mar 07, 07

I can't stand people who say that they can't afford to go to school and use that as an excuse. It's weak. Where there's a will, there's a way. It's an investment results in huge returns.

galaxie · #**254** (**permalink**) Mar 07, 07

Quote:

Originally Posted by diva

Someone should have told your boyfriend that the Derek Zoolander Center For Children Who Can't Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too, only exists in the movies.

=(

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!

Webber · #**255** (**permalink**) Mar 07, 07

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Wellbelove

This is very true with many jobs. More education papers = higher pay. Take for instance the average teacher makes $50,000 a year... with an added 15 credits in certain courses you get an automatic $70,000 a year.

Hence why education is also considered an "investment".

thats good money - fuck teachers and their bitching about not getting paid enough

Ree Fresh · #**256** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webber

thats good money - fuck teachers and their bitching about not getting paid enough

WOH hold on a minute... more like every penny deserved!

Let me use one of our bran new teachers as an example...
$42,000 first year teacher
$70 a month extra to be Director
Spends an average of 10-12 hours a day at the school 5 X a week

They claimed they would make more money landscaping instead of teaching... what a waste of 5 years of uni... then they told me about the 15 extra credit thing which makes it actually worth it.

Im sorry but for the passed 3 months ive put on average 8-12 hours of VOLENTEER un paid time in the school that I work at coaching the gymnastics team and organizing the Provicial Championship. Which doesnt benefit me at all. Its purly for the kids.
Not to mention a couple of weekends of my time for work shops and extended field trips. I havent had time to sit in the staff room to have my lunch in over 2 months.

Dont ever think that teachers get paid enough.

tiedye · #**257** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

Umm.. you mean "don't you ever think that teachers don't deserve to be paid more" ??

Oh, and as for the landscaping bit... it's true. I make $20/h to lay sod up here in the spring/summer.

Grapes · #**258** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

Quote:

Originally Posted by rawb

AS AN AVID READER I CONSIDER THIS POST DONE

You guys don't seem to be paying due attention to this post.

Let me repeat on rawb's behalf: He is an *avid reader*. Therefore his word is final. Close this thread.

ppcock · #**259** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

dave likes rawb

*SunShyne* · #**260** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

Quote:

Originally Posted by R Wellbelove

Actualy, I dont think you or Ista have given even ONE good example of what ppl can really do to "open their eyes" or "learn from experiences out side the class room".

Try these:

-Travel for 3+ months by your self
-Teach and Travel
-Par take in a program that helps build communities (nationally/internationally)
-Train and play in a sport/art PROFESSIONALLY
-Train as an apprentice for a career field your interested in
-Work or do projects that relate to a career field your interested in
-Start a business
-Have a child

All of the above are some examples of things ppl can learn VALUABLE experiences from that you DONT learn in the class room. They dont require any education, but they are still life learning lessons, steps that help you towards a career, or things that require much work and dedication. People recognize these as things you have achieved. Much like achieving a degree.

-Travel for 3+ months by your self DONE, April 2005
-Teach and Travel PARTIALLY (does teaching English in Hostels to people from India count?) May 2005
-Par take in a program that helps build communities (nationally/internationally)
-Train and play in a sport/art PROFESSIONALLY DONE, May 2000
-Train as an apprentice for a career field your interested in
-Work or do projects that relate to a career field your interested in DONE, June 2001
-Start a business
-Have a child
-Gone to College - DONE May 2004 (yes, this contridicts my innitial argument, but I can say that I'm on both sides of the fence with the arguments I'm presenting... )
-Travelled my country - PARTIALLY Dec 2000 east coast, July 2006 West coast, July 2007 Yukon/NWT

I'm not saying everyone has to do these things, but I have these valuable life experiences you speak of. And have done post secondary.

Now, would Avana, Rob, Nazi Boy and that other wanker form a single file line to read too deep into my post and post about how I need to go "open my eyes".

Ready? go.

*SunShyne* · #**261** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gusto

did you?

Yes. 1 semester. I decided to get out of the course I was in because it wasn't something I wanted to persue as a career. Though I did receive good marks, and though I did meet some interesting people, it would have been a huge waste of money to stay in that course.

Leviathan · #**262** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

Quote:

-Gone to College - DONE May 2004

1 semester does not count as DONE, sorry.

I'm a huge advocate of going to post secondary, although I do have my own feelings on the usefulness of certain degrees that I won't get into. The simple fact is with certain professions you just don't need extra schooling, but with some you do. Lets face it, all an arts degree is going to help you do is show your employer that your well read,motivated and committed which is great but it doesn't necessarily prepare you for a specific job with some exeptions. As said before it's pretty hard to cheat in an arts program, so I'm not buying the cheating thing there. Personally coming from an engineering background, I find Arts courses the hardest.

When you get into the sciences and applied sciences things are a little bit different because these actually prepare you for specific jobs where the theory you learn is actually needed in order to perform everyday functions. These programs are easier to cheat on in my opinion, but it all comes out in the wash when you get hired and they find out your stupid.

So I won't criticize you for not going back to school, because it might not be what you need to do, but to base it on the fact that people are cheating is rather asinine.

Kraig · #**263** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

I eventually plan to look at an Executive MBA.

Carrie · #**264** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

gotta start my CGA soon.

#**265** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

Quote:

Originally Posted by *SunShyne*

Yes. 1 semester. I decided to get out of the course I was in because it wasn't something I wanted to persue as a career. Though I did receive good marks, and though I did meet some interesting people, it would have been a huge waste of money to stay in that course.

Hahahahahaha - hardly completing school.

rawb · #**266** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

GUYS I WENT TO THE LIBRARY AND THE BOOK I TOOK OUT SUCKED
I AM NEVER GOING TO THE LIBRARY AGAIN, FUCKING LIBRARY

rawb · #**267** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

I GUESS SUNSHYNE PROVES THAT IT IS EASY TO ATTAIN YOUR DREAMS IF YOU SET THEM REALLY REALLY LOW, AND ALLOW A BROAD INTERPRETATION OF ATTAINMENT

TRULY INSPIRING RAGS TO SLIGHTLY-CLEANER-RAGS STORY

fritz · #**268** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

do we really need that much money?

rawb · #**269** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

UH YA

thebobman · #**270** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

I may have left school, but that doesn't mean I've stopped learning...

Ree Fresh · #**271** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

Quote:

Originally Posted by *SunShyne*

-Travel for 3+ months by your self DONE, April 2005
-Teach and Travel PARTIALLY (does teaching English in Hostels to people from India count?) May 2005
-Par take in a program that helps build communities (nationally/internationally)
-Train and play in a sport/art PROFESSIONALLY DONE, May 2000
-Train as an apprentice for a career field your interested in
-Work or do projects that relate to a career field your interested in DONE, June 2001
-Start a business
-Have a child
-Gone to College - DONE May 2004 (yes, this contridicts my innitial argument, but I can say that I'm on both sides of the fence with the arguments I'm presenting... )
-Travelled my country - PARTIALLY Dec 2000 east coast, July 2006 West coast, July 2007 Yukon/NWT

I'm not saying everyone has to do these things, but I have these valuable life experiences you speak of. And have done post secondary.

Now, would Avana, Rob, Nazi Boy and that other wanker form a single file line to read too deep into my post and post about how I need to go "open my eyes".

Ready? go.

All im saying is give some back up to your point of view next time. It doesn't have to be about what you have done, but until now, you and Ista haven't given this thread any idea of what "opening up your eyes experiences" are... and instead theres been A LOT of useless reading :(

*SunShyne* · #**272** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avana

Hahahahahaha - hardly completing school.

I never said I finished school.

do you feel all high and mightier now?

Fuck, I can't wait until someone puts you in your place.

*SunShyne* · #**273** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

Quote:

Originally Posted by thebobman

I may have left school, but that doesn't mean I've stopped learning...

Exactly...

It's why I read as much as I can about current and past events

rawb · #**274** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

WHY DO YOU KEEP POINTING THAT OUT LIKE ITS AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO LEARN

I BROWSE WIKIPEDIA ON MY PHONE WHEN I TAKE A DUMP ITS NOT LIKE IM LEARNING MUCH MORE THAN RANDOM FACTS AND ANECDOTES

#**275** (**permalink**) Mar 08, 07

Quote:

Originally Posted by rawb

WHY DO YOU KEEP POINTING THAT OUT LIKE ITS AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO LEARN

I BROWSE WIKIPEDIA ON MY PHONE WHEN I TAKE A DUMP ITS NOT LIKE IM LEARNING MUCH MORE THAN RANDOM FACTS AND ANECDOTES

Rawb - you can list all the books, websites and articles you have read on your resume. Employers love.