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I think you need to find a healthy balance. Not to mention it totally depends on the person and what they want in life. I know very well what traveling can do for soul, searching, but I kinda of chuckled and have to agree with rawb when he compares "life experiences" to drinking in Bangkok with lady boys. With my work experience I am more than qualified to be a teacher. I know that most of what a teacher learns in uni is useless. HOWEVER uni does more than just teach you facts and improve your academic knowledge... it teaches you to deal with stress, projects, deadlines, and how to create presentable professional work. Not to mention the willingness to deal with hard work and dedication. A teacher once told me that the teaching outline for science and SS garde 4/5 is hardly about teaching kids about weather and Fort Langly, but to teach them how to research, make notes, and present their work. This of course is best learned t by LOTS of practice. I think you should experience some time in post secondary before you make such naive comments. Its A LOT different than highschool (better) and you'll actually find learning quite fun and a different kind of life experience that can also open your eyes. Last edited by Ree Fresh; Mar 06, 07 at 10:49 PM. 
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I would like to go back to school, just want to figure out exactly what for, so I dont waste the time or money floundering
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Courtney - I am slowly working towards my degree in school, while working full time. I get the ability to have hands on experience and learn at the same time, it is fantastic. I think that being able to say that you have earned your degree is something to be proud of.
Ista - I have a hard time believing you have all this education and are working as a "bill collector". Regardless of the scope of the position and no matter how hard you try, the job is not as glamorous as you try and make it sound. I used to do it at Telus. It was a horrible job, and even though it paid better than most places, it still sucked. To sum it up, I think you seem to be straying from the truth. This is not an attack, and consider this my attempt at engaging you in a normal conversation, I hope you can handle that. *Sunshyne* - I think you are someone that needs to put a value on education. I have a hard time believing you work in the position you say you do considering your past displays on the board. This is not an attack, but if you really want to persue a career in HR, you are going to have to get your degree. And as far as HR goes, it is a positon that will pay more based on education, and then experience. HR is actually one of the harder positions to fill for companies right now based on the lack of education that people have. Most companies don't want to hire without a degree.
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I was speaking more from the heart than innitiating something that would warrent a commment like this. And Grapes: So, I'm an idiot because I have a different opinion than you? Isn't that along the same sorta lines as facism? From now on, I will refere to you as "Nazi boy". Now don't take this the wrong way, but Ista looks more intelligent than you in my books after that comment. ~~ Avana: While I agree that having an education in HR is comething that everyone should have in that field, I disagree that you feel that some comments I've made make me less qualified to work in HR. I hire based purely upon skill and experience. I'm not doing my job to make a balance between whites & blacks, or blacks & natives, or natives & hookers. If a hookers comes to me, and her qualifications are great, as long as she's not foaming at the mouth, I'll hire her. I have a lot of respect for people who go to college/university. It's not something easily accomplished. Thankfully for me, I was promoted into HR. As I said in my first post in this thread, I have no desire to go back because of that small group of people who are cheating their ways through post secondary and really make my $15K piece of paper worthless next to theirs. *matter of opinion* ~~ Also... Kokanee is great (Go Canadian Beer!). American Idol is one of the worst shows ever (next to the simple life and so you think you can dance). And it's all about popcorn. *matter of fact* ~~ College and University CAN open your eyes to a lot of things, but for many people who have their nose in the books for 4 years straight, they really don't get to see much... I will say this: When they are on reading week, that first night is usually a very drunken one... all that built up agression from not being able to go out or do anything for 3 months straight...
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Honestly, I have a good perspective on this because I chose NOT to go to university straight out of highschool. I thought the same way you do for a couple of years, but now if I could choose to do it all over again I would do it completely differently.
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I just spent the last year working at UBC. I was an examination invigilator (that means I administered exams). My class sizes were no more than 10 students at a time. And many of the students were writing arguably some of THE hardest exams on campus. I think that your whole idea that some of these students are cheating is nothing more than an excuse. A weak excuse at that. You are pigeon-holing yourself to earn no more than what you are worth. Which without an education in that field, isn't going to be a lot. As far as saying university being an eye-opening experience, quite frankly I believe it is. I worked with many students in my department that were attending school full-time. Many times they would invite me out to their functions, and often our department was included in UBC culture. It makes me envious for those that get to go to school there full-time. They not only work hard on their degrees, but they have fun while doing it. University has more to offer than just book smarts.
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I did my diploma in Robotics at BCIT originally which was great but there isn't really any campus culture there. My program was to intense to concentrate on anything but school anyway. I got my first job as a research assistant at UBC and it really opened my eyes to the culture and the plethora of activities available at a full on University.
I'm finishing up my last year of an EE degree part time while I work and I think this was the right thing for me since I get to actually apply what I learn on a daily basis. Everybody is going to be in a different situation and will have to decide on what they need to do in order to further their career. In my case I opted to take a 2 year program and get into the field right away and start learning. Now I work for a company who evaluates me as an engineer and is paying for me to finish my degree. Again I've had to make the decision to miss out on the extra curricular activities in order to further my career. This was the right decision for me, for others it won't be. Some fields such as engineering require some type of schooling, others you can get by without.
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http://www.expressnews.ualberta.ca/article.cfm?id=947 http://www.theage.com.au/articles/20...566360939.html I don't think my excuse for not going to school is weak. Nor do I think I'm superior to any of you for having not gone and contiuned my education by reading just about everything I can get my hands on about pretty much any topic (that's not what you were implying, I just wanted to state it) and making my opinions based upon that. GALAXIE: My thought on people who are in University right now and how their heads are always in the books doesn't come from grasping at straws or having a skewed view. Three of my dear friends are in 3rd or 4th year of University for Bio-Medical Engineering, Chemestry or Biology studying their asses off every night so they can get to the top of their class. One was an RA in his second year at Waterloo. But even he said that was a bitch trying to keep up his marks (low 90's) and be an RA and try to have "fun" at the same time. Good for your boy toy for being able to maintain a balance!
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You clearly aren't that experienced in your position. It could be a lack of education, or it could be that you need to do some growing up. But you definately need some more formal training if you really want to continue in the field you are in. Otherwise, you will be nothing more than a glorfied office clerk. (Further to this cheating thing - it is no different then children in grade level schools using their cell phones to cheat. Are you going to stop your children from heading off to Grade 11 because other kids are cheating with their phones? Your argument is weak, I think you are making an excuse.)
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