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Old Oct 09, 08
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Honestly dude, it's you people who come here to agree with each other on everything that aren't aware of the world around you.
you obviously don't come on here much. chris/ninjaboy is one of the most argumentative people on the board haha.
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Old Oct 09, 08
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I agree with you, but I think that North Korea, Iran, China, and Russia are all worse offenders. What about the African and South American dictators?

all of which are much further away than USA, and none of which affect us as much. And I have similar feelings for all of them, it's not just Americans
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Old Oct 09, 08
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pssst... Diva


El Salvador (General Maximilio Hernández- 1932)
"A failed uprising organized by EI Salvador's Communist Party founder, Farabundo Marti, six weeks after Hernandez Martinez had seized power in a 1931 coup, sparked the General's crackdown on "communists." "Roadways and drainage ditches were littered with bodies," writes Raymond Bonner. "Hotels were raided; individuals with blond hair were dragged out and killed as suspected Russians. Men were tied thumb to thumb, then executed, tumbling into mass graves they had first been forced to dig." U.S. warships were stationed off-shore, ready to send in Marines to aid the General in case he ran into serious opposition.Hernandez Martinez was run out of the country in 1944, but his memory was celebrated as recently as 1980, when the Maximiliano Hernandez Martinez Brigade carried out a series of death-squad assassinations of prominent Salvadoran leftists. Farabundo Marti, killed during the purge, has also left a legacy: the rebels currently fighting the U.S. backed government of El Salvador call themselves the FMLN, the Farabundo Marti Liberation Front"
Nicaragua (The Somozas)
"The Marines invaded Nicaragua in 1912 and stayed until 1933, fighting but never defeating the revolutionary Augusto Sandino. They created the Nicaraguan National Guard and installed Anastasio Somoza Garcia in power. Then Sandino, who had signed a truce and put down his arms, was assassinated by Somoza. In 1935, General Smedley Butler, who led the Marines into Nicaragua, said: "[I was] a high class muscle man for big business, for Wall Street and for the banks. In short, I was a racketeer for capitalism - I helped purify Nicaragua for [an] international banking house." President Franklin Delano Roosevelt put it another way. "Somoza may be a son of a bitch, but he's our son of a bitch."
Guatemala
"A Christian has to walk around with his Bible and his machine gun," said born-again General Efrain Rios Mont, military ruler of Guatemala from March 1982 to August 1983. Rios Mont was one in a long series of dictators who ran Guatemala after the Dulles brothers and United Fruit, backed by the CIA, decided that elected President Jacob Arbenz held the country "in the grip of a Russian-controlled dictatorship" and overthrew the country's constitutional democracy in 1954. The succession of corrupt military dictators ruled Guatemala for over 30 years, one anti-communist tyrant after another receiving U.S. support, aid, and training"
Honduras (Roberto Suazo Cordova)
Honduras was the original "Banana Republic," its history inextricably intertwined with that of the U.S.-based United Fruit Company, but in 1979, when Anastasio Somoza was overthrown in Nicaragua (see card 7), Honduras got a new nickname: "The Pentagon Republic." In 1978 Honduras received $16.2 million in U.S. aid; by 1985 it was getting $231.1 million, primarily because President Suazo Cordova, working with U.S. Ambassador John Dmitri Negroponte and Honduran General Gustava Alvarez, allowed Honduras to become a training center for U.S. funded Nicaraguan contras. General Alvarez, who according to Newsweek, "doesn't care if officers are thieves, as long as they are virulent anti-communists," assisted in training programs and founded a special "hit squad," the Cobras. Victims of the Cobras were stripped, bound, thrown into pits and tortured. The Reagan Administration claimed ignorance of these human rights violations, but U.S. advisors have admitted knowledge" Panama (General Manuel Noriega)
"The U.S. command post for covert Latin American operations is located in the Canal Zone where a series of figurehead presidents, some backed by General Manual Noriega, have involved Panama in U.S. intelligence operations. Noriega first met with then CIA Director George Bush in 1976 while Noriega was collecting $100 thousand a year as a CIA asset.Their friendly relationship persisted even after Noriegas' drug dealing was revealed by a 1975 DEA investigation. During the Reagan era, Noriega collaborated with Oliver North on covert actions against Nicaragua, training contras and providing a trans-shipment point for CIA supported operations that flew weapons to the contras and cocaine into the U.S."
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Old Oct 09, 08
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I don't necessarily agree with everything I write here. I generally write it for the purpose of argument, to be the devil's advocate. I admit often I will start an argument knowing only bits and pieces of information. I generally will lose said argument, I don't deny that, but I'll still attempt to scramble and prove the points I brought up.
So you come here to spout a side of the argument that you don't agree with or understand, and you get pretty much torn apart by people who argue points they agree with and comprehend?

Wow. You shit disturber you.

Your poorly worded and researched points have shattered my very core. Thank god you are here to fight the status quo. I was sick of having arguments with people who believed what they were saying or even had a semblance of knowledge on the subject.

But you are wasting your intellect here, there are many other venues which you must explore to spread your message of uninformed ideas that you only have a vague understanding of. To the university! To the Library! To the Theater! We simply cannot waste anymore of your time here.

Go now, for the good of the city!
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Old Oct 09, 08
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It is easy to say "i like the people, but not the government" but it is the people who vote the gov. into power.
not always
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Old Oct 09, 08
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Ya France was powerful taking over tribes, it doesn't change the fact they never were able to win a war on their home continent.
yeah, colonialism of tribes and other native populations clearly had no impact on the world today and shouldn't be considered important.
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Old Oct 09, 08
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So Canadians will only be OK with America if they elect a government that is more similar to ours. Ahhh. I get it now. Thread closed. Question answered.
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