Technology:good,bad or ugly?

[rawb]

I WOULD ARGUE THAT THE KEY TO OVERCOMING IGNORANCE IS INCREASED AVAILABILITY TO INFORMATION COUPLED WITH EASE OF COMMUNICATION BETWEEN PEOPLE, TWO THINGS THAT TECHNOLOGY IS GREAT AT l

[miss.myra]

who here has seen the movie 'wizards'?

[ebbomega]

Who here has read Zen and The Art Of Motorcycle Maintenance?

[miss.myra]

for real dave?

i don't know everytime i ask someone about 'wizards' they think i'm talking about fred savage. i don't know what gives.

[NinjaBoy]

Why can't more animated movies clearly be inspired by drug use and the urge to draw topless fairies...

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by miss.myra

for real dave?

Wizards struck me as carrying a lot of the same themes of Lord Of The Rings, which is that people who wield technology as the central source of power will ultimately destroy the humanity that resides within us, whereas human spirit, determination and basic goodness will be our salvation.

Pirsig takes a different approach on technology, in that someone should find personal harmony amidst the technology and not fear or hide from it, because that's the only way to truly understand your relationship with the tech.

Originally Posted by miss.myra

i don't know everytime i ask someone about 'wizards' they think i'm talking about fred savage. i don't know what gives.

Boo. Bakshi > 80's Nintendo-funded advertisement.

Though The Wizard will always hold a special place in my heart.

"I love the PowerGlove(tm). It's so bad."

[miss.myra]

Bakshi is amazing. I watched heavy traffic again a few weeks back, anyways it totally inspired me to go order wizards online. still waiting for it to come in the mail!

[Lush]

We discussed zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance in my new media class, isn't it kind of obsolete now though? Everything is chip enabled now for the sake of profit. I mean I understand the concept but my fiance owns a Buell firebolt and it's pretty much impossible to do any work on it, even purchasing the service manuel cost an additional $60

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Lush

We discussed zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance in my new media class, isn't it kind of obsolete now though? Everything is chip enabled now for the sake of profit. I mean I understand the concept but my fiance owns a Buell firebolt and it's pretty much impossible to do any work on it, even purchasing the service manuel cost an additional $60

With respect to automotive, definitely. But that's not to say that the themes and his approach to technology in general don't still apply. Zen & The Art has been a favourite amongst computer geek culture for exactly this reason.

Computer nerds are the new car & bike hobbyist. This is a comparison that's been made countless times. Neal Stephenson made it often in his In The Beginning Was The Command Line essay.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by Courtney

Advancement of society or the dumbing down of society?
Connecting people or detaching people?

I like debates ;)

mostly good.

its certainly improved our longevity, lifestyle and communication compared to even the 1950's

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by Lush

We discussed zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance in my new media class, isn't it kind of obsolete now though? Everything is chip enabled now for the sake of profit. I mean I understand the concept but my fiance owns a Buell firebolt and it's pretty much impossible to do any work on it, even purchasing the service manuel cost an additional $60

no way some, pollution control, performance considerations and the resultant shift to fuel injection is what drove the movement to OBD standards and having the engine managed by a computer rather then some analog device.

besides alot of the work can be done without even touching the computer, and if your automotive savy you can buy add ons and standalone ecu's so you can control everything yourself.

my buddy has a standalone system for his car he can reprogram everything with his laptop. people who say cars are all dominated by the computers so manufacturers can charge 90 bucks an hour for service are just ignorant. also as to what rawb said all this information is out there, the internet is a great way to find it.

I think this video says enough:

[GSG9]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

no way some, pollution control, performance considerations and the resultant shift to fuel injection is what drove the movement to OBD standards and having the engine managed by a computer rather then some analog device.

besides alot of the work can be done without even touching the computer, and if your automotive savy you can buy add ons and standalone ecu's so you can control everything yourself.

my buddy has a standalone system for his car he can reprogram everything with his laptop. people who say cars are all dominated by the computers so manufacturers can charge 90 bucks an hour for service are just ignorant. also as to what rawb said all this information is out there, the internet is a great way to find it.

there is nothing more satisfying than being able to manage your engine performance from inside your car.

[mojo]

Originally Posted by GSG9

there is nothing more satisfying than being able to manage your engine performance from inside your car.

i would prefer an orgasm i think

[miss.myra]

when you think about it, technology has created societies from the very beginning. The success of a civilization has always relied on adaptability, it's human nature. Adaptability is taking the things around you and learning to work with them to make life easier in some way. Thooooousands of years ago, it was stone tools and irrigation systems. With the wealth of knowledge and information that is readily available now, it becomes more complex but still plays just as important a role.

Is technology dangerous? yes. have you ever seen maximum overdrive?

[tiedye]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

People were ignorant before technology came about. Ignorance is not caused by technology any more than creativity is.

Technology is tools. What people do with those tools is more important than what they are.

At least in our less technologically advanced ignorance, we pulled up the blinds to see if it was raining instead of checking out The Weather Network's website.

[tiedye]

Originally Posted by Courtney

I can't wait to demote to a small town and be married to a hippy and have two kids.....
When I say hippy I mean wannabe hippy who makes at least 80 a year

:)

WHAT'S UP? o

[stephen_c]

Originally Posted by Courtney

I can't wait to demote to a small town and be married to a hippy and have two kids.....
When I say hippy I mean wannabe hippy who makes at least 80 a year

:)

a hippy who makes 80K is most likely not a real hippy,
but rather a hippy wannabe.

[cubed]

Originally Posted by stephen_c

a hippy who makes 80K is most likely not a real hippy,
but rather a hippy wannabe.

Actually, they're the new version of yuppies.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by stephen_c

a hippy who makes 80K is most likely not a real hippy,
but rather a hippy wannabe.

80k a year aint shit.

a really hippy could probably pull that in, he'd smoke it all away but yeah he could earn that much.

[Courtney]

shit sean I wanna marry you I have a feeling you are going to be ballin

[Courtney]

Originally Posted by stephen_c

a hippy who makes 80K is most likely not a real hippy,
but rather a hippy wannabe.

hence why I said a wannabe hippy!

[ebbomega]

Sean wrote you this love song, Court:

[G3N3R4L]

this is exactly what happened to the 13 colonies in battlestar galactica. the cylons used the colonists networked computers against them.

... think about it.

[ppcock]

Originally Posted by miss.myra

Bakshi is amazing. I watched heavy traffic again a few weeks back, anyways it totally inspired me to go order wizards online. still waiting for it to come in the mail!

you use mail? how amish!