Lets get serious about the swine flu vaccive for a minute

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

Sigh...

Yes, most of us knew what it means. However, the use of it was obviously forced. Thus, in my opinion it was an attempt to "show off" rather then simply communicate a point.

fuuuck shuuuuuuut up.

how do you know 'the use of it was obviously forced.'?

same could be said about you constantly crawling up onto your beaten high horse and squaking off about it, and almost every other thing...FORCED.

waaaait just a min.hold the phones here. i bet its not forced at all but comes to you all rather naturally

-makes me wanna barf and punch you in the fucking face.


*lol

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by Revolver

fuuuck shuuuuuuut up.

how do you know 'the use of it was obviously forced.'?

same could be said about you constantly crawling up onto your beaten high horse and squaking off about it, and almost every other thing...FORCED.

waaaait just a min.hold the phones here. i bet its not forced at all but comes to you all rather naturally

-makes me wanna barf and punch you in the fucking face.


*lol

Seriously?

[mojo]

i agree with revolver except not enough to punch you in the face.

[shebavpg]

Originally Posted by cubed

I'm getting the combo of H1N1 and Seasonal in a week or so.

I'll update you in 10 years if I've had any flipperbaby offspring.

I had the h1n1 shot yesterday. My arm hurts, but i'm alive! I will also let you know if I have flipperbaby offspring, and haunt you all if I die.

[C_squared]

So my gf went out to get her swine flu shot at ubc campus, turns out they ran out of vaccines. I told her when she does, she's really taking one for the team.

Honestly though, I am not convinced that this is a serious strain of the flu. If I happen to get it, I know my body will naturally build its own immunity to the virus. I lead a pretty healthy life style minus the red wine and blunt sessions.

Hey is anybody here still an e-tard? Haven't touched that shit in years tbh... All you sketchy ravers be warned when you fuck with your own immune system.

[diva]

The vaccine isn't just meant to keep people from dying. It's to keep them from getting extremely sick. If you do get the flu after getting the vaccine, you shouldn't get as sick as you would have if you hadn't been vaccinated.

Other things to consider are whether or not you can afford to take sick time if you get sick this year.

Anyhoo, in the end it's up to you. That's the beauty of living in Canada. No one's forcing us to get vaccinated. Do your own cost benefit analysis, but be informed.

I'm getting it because I don't like getting sick. And the cardiac surgery ICU that I work in one of the overflow units for H1N1 cases. Even if I didn't catch the flu, I could inadvertently give it to a patient.

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[Krusha]

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

Sigh...

Yes, most of us knew what it means. However, the use of it was obviously forced. Thus, in my opinion it was an attempt to "show off" rather then simply communicate a point.

And just for the record misanthropic, is hardly a common word in the English language, neither now, nor 50 years ago.

that's a purty hole you got there

say hi to your famiry for me

[NinjaBoy]

Sure, I have no problem admitting I was probably going off about nothing. My bad. Sorry George.

[cubed]

Originally Posted by Revolver

fuuuck shuuuuuuut up.

how do you know 'the use of it was obviously forced.'?

same could be said about you constantly crawling up onto your beaten high horse and squaking off about it, and almost every other thing...FORCED.

waaaait just a min.hold the phones here. i bet its not forced at all but comes to you all rather naturally

-makes me wanna barf and punch you in the fucking face.


*lol

talking about FORCED rants!

I think you all should sit down and have a pretty little circle jerk.

[ebbomega]

Man, that's gotta be the most dysfunctional circle jerk ever conceived.

[tiedye]

I'm just lazy. So fuck it.

[Revolver]

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

Seriously?

im totally and completely seriously serious...

but more like this:

Originally Posted by mojo

i agree with revolver except not enough to punch you in the face.

[Senior]

the vaccine is untested, we don't know if it works or if it's safe. so no, I'm not going to take it.

[Chewy]

Well, it may be a month before i can get a h1n1 shot since there are production issues. By that time they might know more about this vaccine and its potential side effects. I have not had the flu in 8 years and have not had the common flu shot in 5. I still feel safe not getting the flu shot this year. the only thing that does concern me is the deaths of completely healthy people. So far we have not heard of anyone dying from the h1n1 who has had the shot and i havnt heard of any adverse side effects either. If the vaccine is available and i have not yet contracted the flu i will probly get the shot. We will all know more in a month. so hang tight and wash your mangy hands

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Senior

the vaccine is untested, we don't know if it works or if it's safe. so no, I'm not going to take it.

Point the first: It's not untested, just hasn't been tested very extensively

Point the second: This is no different from the seasonal flu vaccine, btw. They usually have to push vaccines out quickly before the virus has a chance to mutate and become resistant to the vaccine.

[diva]

Got the H1N1 and seasonal flu vaccines today. w00t.

[Ragga_Wh0re]

hells no!

If I get h1n1 then o wells! Not rly concerned abt the dieing part, but if it happens atleast I have good life insurance!

[dabbler]

^ I thought you had someone else to be concerned about?

[ebbomega]

^ Don't be silly. It's not like children under age 8 are in a high-risk group or anything....

[Ragga_Wh0re]

Originally Posted by dabbler

^ I thought you had someone else to be concerned about?

My daughter has not and never will be vaccinated. She is a strong,healthy,brilliant little person.

H1N1 does not scare me in the least bit. Everyone I work with has had H1N1, except for me and 2 other people.

Kids get sick and they build immunity as they go along. Maybe if it was like 1937 and I was living in a city with poor infrastructure then id reconsider.

Last time I checked it wasnt 1937 and my home has proper plumbing so like yeah or stuff...

[diva]

The reason your daughter is healthy is because most of the children she spends time around have had their childhood vaccinations. It's called herd immunity

Herd immunity (or community immunity) describes a type of immunity that occurs when the vaccination of a portion of the population (or herd) provides protection to unprotected individuals. Herd immunity theory proposes that, in diseases passed from person to person, it is more difficult to maintain a chain of infection when large numbers of a population are immune. The higher the proportion of individuals who are immune, the lower the likelihood that a susceptible person will come into contact with an infected individual.

Herd immunity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <-- The graph shows just how much herd immunity can help keep people from getting vaccine preventable illnesses.

So thank the parents who do vaccinate their children.

[diva]

My hospital's ICU has a 15 person capacity. There are 25 ICU patients in the hospital. Overflow goes to other critical care units, which might cause non-emergent surgeries to be cancelled. On top of that, there is a shortage of staff in critical care areas due to a larger number of sick calls. It's not just old people on the ventilators. Someone I work with picked up an extra shift in the ICU and said that the oldest H1N1 was in their 40s when she was there. I don't know this for a fact, though.

[mojo]

this herd sounds pretty good to me

[Ragga_Wh0re]

You know what I find fucking hilarious? The different angles health care workers try to play you from in regards to vaccinations.

Like "you should get your child immunized because even though most of her peers will be immunized,they can still carry the virus and infect her"

and now, "herd immunity".

I'm sure that these are both entirely possible, but not probable enough to actually happen with such voracity to make me really think twice about not having my daughter immunized.

Thanks though :)

Originally Posted by diva

The reason your daughter is healthy is because most of the children she spends time around have had their childhood vaccinations. It's called herd immunity

Herd immunity (or community immunity) describes a type of immunity that occurs when the vaccination of a portion of the population (or herd) provides protection to unprotected individuals. Herd immunity theory proposes that, in diseases passed from person to person, it is more difficult to maintain a chain of infection when large numbers of a population are immune. The higher the proportion of individuals who are immune, the lower the likelihood that a susceptible person will come into contact with an infected individual.

Herd immunity - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia <-- The graph shows just how much herd immunity can help keep people from getting vaccine preventable illnesses.

So thank the parents who do vaccinate their children.

[ebbomega]

What I find hilarious is how someone so soon ago was ragging on and on about how much better a person she was than all of us now that she was a mother and is now taking a medical professional's advice towards the wellbeing of her child and throwing it right back in her face.

I'm not really saying that either side is right or wrong, I just think it's amusing how she's not willing to weigh the odds and instead will use it as an excuse to get oneupmanship on someone on an online forum, when in reality the information could end up saving her daughter's life.

But what do I know? I've never had ovaries so I obviously have no clue what's best for children.