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May 12, 03
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NE1 Remember 5th Element Prod.?
I'm just remembering the days when fifth element was around. we only had 1 successful party. I had a lot of fun doing it. Our crew consisted of 4 owners (party kids), and lots of people who helped out. The first party we threw was called Soother 1.0 . Anyone remember that one?
We took so much time developing that party. It wasn't world class, not everyone appreciated it, but that's ok. I'm sure they didn't notice the fact that we had a great light and sound setup. or that we had people going through riverside picking up bottles making sure the floor was dancable. or the cardboard we took the time to cut up and lay out on the ground around the walls so that people didn't dirty their fun fur. parties like those aren't around as much. . too bad eh? Soother cancelled 3 days before the show. werd spread out quickly and we got a lot of upset reviews. we cancelled because we were about to lose a lot of money. but that didn't matter to the ravers of the time. so we didn't care either. the party went through, and we made $120, and had 650 in attendance. We tried to throw another show soon after that. See Spot Spin. We had a lot of surprises for the ravers. we had 3 world class dj's who were booked (Mark Luvdup, Jo Shiva, and someone else [i forget who]) and a great list of locals. we advertised 1 laser, when we had 3 coming in. we had give aways, a kick ass light set up. hand made dance stages. etc. etc. but. someone decided to die at another rave the night before. We cancelled see spot spin. we lost $20,000. but that part didn't make it to history. nope. people just remember the whole, cancelling. none of the efffort that was invested, or the risk we took for the ravers of the time. Now a days is it worth throwing a quality rave? doesn't seem like it. few people appreciate the companies who take the time to please the ravers. i truly hope fusion dreams does well. and i also hope breath does well. the future of the rave scene depends on it. i hope the people who diss raves keep their trap shut. they probably don't realize that people actualy listen to them and take them seriously. I hope they realize THEY are the ones destroying the rave scene. one well placed rumour is all you need to ruin something greater than you can imagine. support our local rave scene. disregard the fact that you know the first name of the promoter. forget about all of the politics and just go out to have a good time. if the young people bother you so much, IGNORE THEM. go for yourself. have fun. dance the night away. respect and relish the parties while you still can. if we don't play the cards right, we won't have a scene at all. fnk will be obsolete, and all because of a few people spreading rumors and saying shit. 
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May 14, 03
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i think i have the flyer to that too...
doode i remember that time as well... i tried to through a couple of parties but none of them happend for one reason or another and it sucked to be me but if it went off im sure that there would not have been too much appreciation for it either... now im working on putting on a seiries of saterday nights small venue cheap everything... no proffits ALL FUN!!! i hope that it actually starts up and goes off... im gonna need lotsa support from everyone... it will do good for the scene and get a brand new old school vibe happening again!!! :c-tard:
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May 14, 03
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if you think the future of the rave scene depends on two plaza parties then you really dont know what the rave scene is
the rave scene will always be around. why? because its not bound by laws... it was MEANT to be underground and illegal i agree with rawb on this one john 2899131
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May 14, 03
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its kind of like the dumb kids in highschool, who cares how hard they work or how much they study math, they still fuckin suck.
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May 14, 03
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^^ hahah good analogy
john 2899131
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May 14, 03
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not all promoters are shitty...
come on now... get honest!!!!! some promoters are the shit!
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May 14, 03
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On a semi serious note though I think any one who wants to start throwing parties should be looking forward and not back. What is done is done and to make the "scene" better I think people need to move on. I fully agree that two plaza parties are not a make or break for the scene in any sense. I think though limiting good parties to being illegal or any narrow classification is not good either though. Most of the good parties I go to are actually legal because they are held in clubs. Really being legal or not is secondary to the music and the people. So whether legal or not if the crowd is to your liking and the music sounds good that's all that matters.
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May 14, 03
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Quality rave?
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May 15, 03
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i think that the quality depends not only on the talent beiing broughten but the extra time and patieints (<- cant think) the make all of the mistakes turn out good and to take the extra time to make every little tiny detail to the best that it can be
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May 15, 03
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the first rule of marketing is that you never blame your customers.
"is it worth it to throw big parties anymore?" is the wrong question. it's more like "do you feel comfortable potentially losing tens of thousands of dollars?". if you can't recognize and accept the risks, you shouldn't throw the party. it's as simple as that. no one forces anyone to throw a rave. and, again, fusion dreams and breath really aren't the 'future' of the rave scene. they're just two more massives. im sure they will be well produced parties with lots of happy customers. im not dissing the parties production values or experience... im sure it will be great for people who are into those kinds of parties. but you're not going to change the rave culture in vancouver by just throwing and attending the same types of parties. that's been happening for years and years, you can't change the status quo by continuing to do the same thing. im not just talking about massives here either. i dunno, i've never thrown a party where i wasn't okay with the fact id lose every single penny, maybe thats why i never threw anything big:P
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May 15, 03
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It's just a fucking rave, you are just an other fucking promoter, it's just an other fucking DJ set, you gave it just an other fucking effort.
I can count about 30 solid promoter come and gone, and some of them where memorable for what they did do, and not what they tried. I have watch 100 nameless collectives do there shit, some of them where memorable for what they did do and not what they dreamed. I have seen 10 of thousands of ravers come and go, some of them where memorable for what did do and not what they tried to be. Even those remember are forgotten in next wave of raver this and that. But no promoter, no raver, no collective will ever be remembered as well as WickedHouseParty. You can only dream of being a world wide collective or DJ's artist, and 2nd room promoters.
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May 16, 03
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