New N rules in affect as of yesterday..

[M!SKA]

For those of us that already have our N's, we still follow the old rules. unless you have to renew it after your 5 years are up. then you start on the new shitty rules.

It's just stupid. like i know when i was in highschool and i just got my license, me and like 10-15 friends would all go to someones house and chill.. then go to like mcdonalds or something like that. now if kids wanna do that, they're gonna have to take 5 cars. thats rediculous.

[Sue Bitch]

ya for getting rid of my n

the test wasnt bad at all i did have to do it twice but only because i ended up doing a stupid dangerous manouver at the last interestion an the next time i passed while i even had streap throut

[bebu*funfun]

hahahaha a few of my friends are sososos screwed.

thank god i got my N..and it will be coming off in a year! yay!

[zarlon]

*glare*

Oh, shit.

[SEAN!]

Originally posted by Partizan
:finger: :finger: :finger: fuck u whoever thought of this pointless shit..

they're gonna be so surprised when they see the crash rate doesnt decrease.. it might .. by like.. 2%

it will probably decrease signifigantly...for novice drivers atleast.


the people who make the rules do years of research before they implement em so im pretty sure they know what their doing.

[SEAN!]

Originally posted by bungoshlung
why dont they just disallow driving altogether for the general public? then everytone wil have to bus and we'll end the problem. wait, what if the bus drivers start gettin distracted because of all their passenger and start crashing, then what? ban buses as well?

this is fucking stupid.

its the retard kids' fault that they got into an accident and died, not because there werent "strict" rules. if theyre stupid enough to drive the way they do, then its their own fault.

no its not just the streetracers thought they are the ones garnering all the attention its all new drivers. because quite frankly new drivers suck ass at driving and most get into car accidents within the first few eyars of driving.

the girl who hit me and fucked up my back was a new driver, she didnt have a clue, whe i first had my N i sucked ass at driving too. these l;aws will definitely reduce accidents

[baby_bluez]

This is HURTING... i dont even want my fucking license anymore.
I dunno... statistics can say what they want, but it seems to me, that the more penalties and shit they come up with, the more crashes you hear about in the news.

[mugsy]

i donno... alot of acceidents i hear about usually happen to middle aged people who are in a hurry for work... or they had a couple at the pub after work and figure what the hell ive ben driving for 20 years, ive got enough experience to drive drunk....

heres what i dont get. alot of 19 year olds still have their N's... now whe the new rule applies to new 19 year olds, the amount of d.d's has to go up if you can only have one passenger. due to this reason i think that there will be alot more drunk drivers on the road.

or lets say you are a teen mom... and you have two kids by the time you are 18.... do you have to decide which kid stays home?

what if you are 18, have two youner siblings that are under your care... you have your N still so this means only one kid gets a safe ride to school... whos your favorite?

im not saying im the best driver, nor am i saying that teens\young adults are all amazing drivers, however i do think that this is too far an extreme. why not give harsher punishment for drunk drivers? why not suspend licenses for speeding? attack those who are fucking up, not those who are not.

[mugsy]

as for more crashes on the news.. i think that there has always been this many crashes... its just where media is now a days. its a hot hot topic and they are allllllll over it.
plus i believe that if the media affects a certain age, the majority of the people who respond to it are in that certain age group. (like how you dont see alot of 19 year olds watchin mr.dress-up, it doesnt apply to the age group) maybe there was always alot about dangerous young drivers, we just never noticed cause we didnt really care.

in every generation the "adults" always have something against the "young adults" at the time it always seems extreme, but give it a decade or two and it wont seem that harsh at all. like rock and roll music.

[GiggleyGal]

This is fucking bulshit!! That's all I have 2 say.

[~lazee_grrl~]

Originally posted by M!SKA
It's just stupid. like i know when i was in highschool and i just got my license, me and like 10-15 friends would all go to someones house and chill.. then go to like mcdonalds or something like that. now if kids wanna do that, they're gonna have to take 5 cars. thats rediculous.

yup..no more carpooling for teens..

[-DLO_604-]

1.The number of accidents that I have heard about or have made it onto the news HAVE NOTHING TO DO with MODIFIED PARTS!
(so what the fuck was the point of having that stupid law where people can't modify their cars?)
2.Now this will just encourage peer pressure by other teens onto the driver. EG. Common it's just a a 10 minute drive away drive my friend also etc etc etc.
3.Will it really stop reckless driving? Not really! Bad drivers are bad drivers! Will it reduce it? Not really because if there are twice as many bad drivers out there on the road then obviously there is twice the risk. Good job icbc you just made the roads a whole lot safer for all of us..Ya fuckin dorks

[vangroover]

Originally posted by M!SKA
For those of us that already have our N's, we still follow the old rules. unless you have to renew it after your 5 years are up. then you start on the new shitty rules.

It's just stupid. like i know when i was in highschool and i just got my license, me and like 10-15 friends would all go to someones house and chill.. then go to like mcdonalds or something like that. now if kids wanna do that, they're gonna have to take 5 cars. thats rediculous.

Thats kinda stupid how you go to the new rules if you renew your licence after 5 years?....argg guess ill have to get rid of my n....I was planning on being a new driver for life!

[stringbeans]

glad i got rid of my N :D

and that 2 passenger rule doesnt apply to immediate family

[SEAN!]

Originally posted by mugsy


attack those who are fucking up, not those who are not.

they are, they ahve increased penalties for drunk drivers and they have increased penalities for speeders, and now theyve increased restrictions on novice drivers. these three groups are ones that cause the most accidents.

i dunno about the last post you made megan.. i think 20 to 30 years from now people will still think collision related fatalities and injuries are a bit appalling

[c.tard]

Originally posted by -DLO_604-
2.Now this will just encourage peer pressure by other teens onto the driver. EG. Common it's just a a 10 minute drive away drive my friend also etc etc etc.
3.Will it really stop reckless driving? Not really! Bad drivers are bad drivers! Will it reduce it? Not really because if there are twice as many bad drivers out there on the road then obviously there is twice the risk. Good job icbc you just made the roads a whole lot safer for all of us..Ya fuckin dorks

peer-pressure was always there and it'll still be there. if you can't take peer-pressure and you give in that simply then you're a fucking dork and deserve what's coming to you.

and just because more cars are on the road, doesn't mean that it's twice the risk.
yes, there will be a few more cars but the reason alot of people carpool is that NOT EVERY NEW DRIVER HAS THEIR OWN CAR.

and the death toll will go down. they can't make people be less stupid, but they can try to lessen the effects of the dumb peoples actions.

this way, if someone does decide to be an idiot, and drive drunk and crash, only two people will may die, rather then 5 or something.
along with that, less people in the car = less pressure to do stupid things. i've seen people do it, try and show off. it's stupid, but they do it. if no ones around to see it, then why do it?

i see the logic behind it all, and it's annoying (mostly because my road test is a week after the rules change) but that's how it is.

and everyone who has had their N for years, just take the road test! then you don't have to worry about the stupid restrictions for N drivers. why keep it if you don't have to?

[-DLO_604-]

Originally posted by c.tard

peer-pressure was always there and it'll still be there. if you can't take peer-pressure and you give in that simply then you're a fucking dork and deserve what's coming to you.

for the new drivers it will now be officially against the law to drive more than one person...and i'm not sayin i won't be able to take the pressure i'm just saying people who have done stupid shit in the past will do it again. It's obvious that we have more stupid people in society then logical ones.

Originally posted by c.tard

and just because more cars are on the road, doesn't mean that it's twice the risk.
yes, there will be a few more cars but the reason alot of people carpool is that NOT EVERY NEW DRIVER HAS THEIR OWN CAR.

People won't be able to carpool with each other as easily as it may sound any more. Unless the person has their "N" before these stupid rule changes. You can only have on passenger and they have to be at the age of 25 and over I believe. So how are you supposed to car pool with somebody who just got their license?

Originally posted by c.tard

and the death toll will go down. they can't make people be less stupid, but they can try to lessen the effects of the dumb peoples actions.

this way, if someone does decide to be an idiot, and drive drunk and crash, only two people will may die, rather then 5 or something.
along with that, less people in the car = less pressure to do stupid things. i've seen people do it, try and show off. it's stupid, but they do it. if no ones around to see it, then why do it?

Not all people like to tend to show off. It's those who have the flashy cocky attitude that who do showoff. Especially people who think their "all that"

Originally posted by c.tard

i see the logic behind it all, and it's annoying (mostly because my road test is a week after the rules change) but that's how it is.

and everyone who has had their N for years, just take the road test! then you don't have to worry about the stupid restrictions for N drivers. why keep it if you don't have to?

I see the majority of the reasoning to this. However, not everybody deserves to be punished for some stupid kid's actions. We did nothing and we're getting this kind of treatment. Sure it's going to make the world a safer place to drive in but think of it this way. Sometimes you won't be the one at fault. Another idiot can be the one to blame...then what? What are they going to change then? Once kids who get their "N" are definitly anxious to take the car out and go cruize around. I mean you actually have a car to drive around now. Obviously you objective is to be able to drive a car that's why you get your license...This means people getting their license now will have to drive a car with only one passenger who's over the age of 25 (correct me if i'm wrong) but doesn't that mean that more cars on the road? Just with an experienced driver beside them. I honestly don't see the point because accidents will still happen. So what if you get caught by a cop say 3 am with a friend who's not 25 but yet you have your license then what? So many questions left open...and if this doesn't improve the driving skills of many then ICBC will get an earload

[e_BoY]

sweet i finally took my clas 5 after like years and i got it. Too bad for the youngins haha DLO 604

[narc]

too bad they can't restrict new drivers from driving in the fast lane/middle lane.. life would be so much easier...

"GET OFF THE FUCKING PHONE ASSHOLE!"

or... they should maybe ticket ppl that don't know how to pull over for an emergency vehicle coming towards their direction.

as for the single passenger/driver rule; there should have been some kind of amendment to allow new drivers the ability to have passengers between 6am - 4pm to accomodate the school operating hours. AND maybe limit new drivers to maintain the maximum speed limit posted on all roads.. 3kms over and you get dinged

my 2cents

(btw: had to replace my air horn this weekend, so many fucking shit drivers don't get the point)

[c.tard]

Originally posted by -DLO_604-
for the new drivers it will now be officially against the law to drive more than one person...and i'm not sayin i won't be able to take the pressure i'm just saying people who have done stupid shit in the past will do it again. It's obvious that we have more stupid people in society then logical ones.

yes, i'm quite aware of the new laws. there are stupid people, that will never change, but with less passenger in said stupid persons car, it means less possible fatalities. and some people are only stupid when more people are around.

Originally posted by -DLO_604-

People won't be able to carpool with each other as easily as it may sound any more. Unless the person has their "N" before these stupid rule changes. You can only have on passenger and they have to be at the age of 25 and over I believe. So how are you supposed to car pool with somebody who just got their license?

i know people won't be able to carpool anymore. when did i ever say they could?
just because they can't carpool, doesn't automatically mean that the number of cars on the road is going to double. not everyone has a car to drive all the time, that is why many people carpool. if there's no car to drive, they'll have to find other means (ie:public transportation) of getting to their destination.

anyways, you can have one passenger of any age. there is no limit to the passenger. if you want more then one passenger, they have to be family OR you have to have a driver over the age of 25 to supervise.

Originally posted by -DLO_604-

Not all people like to tend to show off. It's those who have the flashy cocky attitude that who do showoff. Especially people who think their "all that"

once again, i never said everyone likes to show off. i'm just saying, the people who do tend to do it when more people are around. why show off if no one is there to see it?

Originally posted by -DLO_604-

I see the majority of the reasoning to this. However, not everybody deserves to be punished for some stupid kid's actions. We did nothing and we're getting this kind of treatment. Sure it's going to make the world a safer place to drive in but think of it this way. Sometimes you won't be the one at fault. Another idiot can be the one to blame...then what? What are they going to change then? Once kids who get their "N" are definitly anxious to take the car out and go cruize around. I mean you actually have a car to drive around now. Obviously you objective is to be able to drive a car that's why you get your license...This means people getting their license now will have to drive a car with only one passenger who's over the age of 25 (correct me if i'm wrong) but doesn't that mean that more cars on the road? Just with an experienced driver beside them. I honestly don't see the point because accidents will still happen. So what if you get caught by a cop say 3 am with a friend who's not 25 but yet you have your license then what? So many questions left open...and if this doesn't improve the driving skills of many then ICBC will get an earload

yes, the normal drivers did nothing, but y'know what? that's just one of the consequences you have to deal with. yes, stupid people ruined it for everyone else but too bad! it's not like this is the first time this has ever happened in life.

and once again, the passenger doesn't have to be over 25. if you want more then one passenger, you have to have a driver over the age of 25 to supervise, but the one passenger can be any age.

accidents will always happen, you can't just get rid of them all that easy, but the point here is to reduce the number of fatalities/casualties from the accidents. alot of new drivers get into accidents, it's just how it is. we're all new and still learning and gaining experience, you can't rush that. with a passenger limit people are less likely to do stupid things, and if they do do them anyways, the number of people killed/injured is less then if the car was packed.

there will be more cars on the road, sure, but i don't see it being totally noticeable. not everyone has their own car to use all the time, so the number of cars won't double.

[Rhianna]

Originally posted by -DLO_604-


for the new drivers it will now be officially against the law to drive more than one person...and i'm not sayin i won't be able to take the pressure i'm just saying people who have done stupid shit in the past will do it again. It's obvious that we have more stupid people in society then logical ones.



People won't be able to carpool with each other as easily as it may sound any more. Unless the person has their "N" before these stupid rule changes. You can only have on passenger and they have to be at the age of 25 and over I believe. So how are you supposed to car pool with somebody who just got their license?


Not all people like to tend to show off. It's those who have the flashy cocky attitude that who do showoff. Especially people who think their "all that"



I see the majority of the reasoning to this. However, not everybody deserves to be punished for some stupid kid's actions. We did nothing and we're getting this kind of treatment. Sure it's going to make the world a safer place to drive in but think of it this way. Sometimes you won't be the one at fault. Another idiot can be the one to blame...then what? What are they going to change then? Once kids who get their "N" are definitly anxious to take the car out and go cruize around. I mean you actually have a car to drive around now. Obviously you objective is to be able to drive a car that's why you get your license...This means people getting their license now will have to drive a car with only one passenger who's over the age of 25 (correct me if i'm wrong) but doesn't that mean that more cars on the road? Just with an experienced driver beside them. I honestly don't see the point because accidents will still happen. So what if you get caught by a cop say 3 am with a friend who's not 25 but yet you have your license then what? So many questions left open...and if this doesn't improve the driving skills of many then ICBC will get an earload

Yes this sucks, but the thing is too many people have fucked up and died here. If there is a chance that this might help then it's for the best. I'm sure that all the N's and L's out there will live. Just be happy you don't live in Finland where you have to be 18 and pay $754759342758 to get your licence.

[cinist]

i think its a good thing. there's no way 16 year olds should be driving around with a whole pile of kids in their car all night. the drunk lil fucker that hit me at like 100 km was probably only going that fast to look good to his buddies. kids are dumb, they need restrictions and parents are unwilling to give them, or are too lazy

[bebu*funfun]

bahahah but hey this is a good excuse if you dont want to drive a car full of strangers..

sorry i just got my N i can only drive my buddy over here.

[char_rave69]

eww im soo mad about this, i new they were gonoa force the rule but i was hoping id be 16 b4 then.... guess not ...fukin sucks

[mugsy]

i donno.. times change sean. 20 - 30 years from now society could take a total change. i look at my parents and see what they have seen since they have been married.... and the way media has changed.... but no matter what theres no denying that media plays a biiiiiiiiig role in society these days.

and by harsher rules i mean take licenses away from drunk drivers, dont allow them to just pay it off. suspend licenses for speeding for 3 months.