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Jan 03, 04
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Web designers....? I have a Q
Why when I try to display this document on my browser
<html> <head> <title> .xX Darla DeVine Xx. Strawberry Blonde Bombshell </title> </head> <body> <p>motherfuckingshit</p> <frameset cols="20%,80%"> <frame src="C:\jenna\menubar.html" name="menu" scrolling="auto"> <frame src="C:\jenna\main.html" name="content" scrolling="auto"> </frameset> </body> </html> The only thing that shows up is the title, and the text? No frames? More specifically, is it because I don't know how to link to the menubar.html etc when the files are on my computer and not the server or wherever it would be if it was actually the website. if so, HOW oh HOW do I do it? 
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or do I need to specify the rowspan for each frame?
man I suck :P
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unless the world wide web has access to your C: i doubt it will work
C:\jenna\menubar.html upload menubar.html and change the folder /jenna/menubar.html
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Jan 03, 04
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oooh, that's why those thingy's go both ways!
Thanks :)
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Like this?:
<html> <head> <title> .xX Darla DeVine Xx. Strawberry Blonde Bombshell </title> </head> <body> <p>motherfuckingshit</p> <frameset cols="20%,80%"> <frame src="/jenna/menubar.html" name="menu" scrolling="auto"> <frame src="/jenna/main.html" name="content" scrolling="auto"> </frameset> </body> </html> Because it's still not working :(
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Jan 03, 04
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frameset is a special element and shouldn't be within the body... should be like this...
<html> <head> <title> .xX Darla DeVine Xx. Strawberry Blonde Bombshell </title> </head> <frameset cols="20%,80%"> <frame src="C:\jenna\menubar.html" name="menu" scrolling="auto"> <frame src="C:\jenna\main.html" name="content" scrolling="auto"> </frameset> </html>
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Jan 03, 04
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I only put the body there because the page was blank, so I needed text to see if the page was working at all.
Thanks for the info, and I'll try it again. But I think I put it there because it wasn't working in the first place, so I'm guessing that's not it. now you didn't say anything about the C drive, did you just not bother to change that part ? Just checking.
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Jan 03, 04
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n/m
it works YAAAAAAAY!! thanks boys
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Jan 03, 04
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Shit... another question.
When using frames, is there a way to get rid of that border inbetween the two of them? There's no need for a scroll bar, and its not there. But is there anyway I can get rid of that grey border, or should I just include the damn menu bar in the tables instead of using frames?
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Jan 03, 04
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Yeah, add the frameborder=0 attribute to each frameset element like this...
<html> <head> <title> .xX Darla DeVine Xx. Strawberry Blonde Bombshell </title> </head> <frameset cols="20%,80%"> <frame src="C:\test\test1.html" name="menu" scrolling="auto" frameborder=0> <frame src="C:\test\test2.html" name="content" scrolling="auto" frameborder=0> </frameset> </html>
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Jan 03, 04
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thank you again my kind sir.
What's the difference between using tables anyways, if you can't see the border of it?? Sorry for the 20 question session, I'm just trying to figure this all out.
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Jan 03, 04
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Frames are kinda clumsy and old school... plus you need to have different file for each. It's somewhat easier to just have it all in one file. Plus its easier to get to a certain page of the site from a bookmark or whatever when using tables... if you use frames then only the frameset index will be visible in the Address bar.
Plus, people will criticize you if you use frames... remember last time you asked about them? lol
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Jan 03, 04
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hahah yes I do. the only response I remembered was something about it looking bad (which doesn't seem to matter right now because I can't see them anymore!). And probably something belittling my web design skills when there isn't much to start with in the first place, so I don't expect people to be amazed by them haha.I also did the whole right frame of the page using tables, numerous tables infact. So I did absorb that advice a little!
ok well, the way I figured my page would work was with using frames. Now I'll have to do a little more research, but how do you link to one table from another? can it even change on its own? Do I just create a whole different file using basically the same format as the page it begins at, but change what needs to be so it becomes the target page (ex: take out the welcome content, and put in the gallery?), and link it to that file? Did that make any sense whatsoever?
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yes. I want this to be simple!
Thanks AGAIN :P I'm hoping that putting it all into tables will get rid of the spacing around the table background (I specified cellpadding=0 cellspacing=0 but theres still a gap around the outside.. or maybe I didn't make the able big enough?) how do I make it so that the background just extends to wherever it's needed around the edges?
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or will that be a problem if I dont use frames??
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Jan 03, 04
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don't worry, I figured everything out. And in the meanwhile figured out that what I want to do, isn't going to work. At least with a background tile and 4 different tables of it "trying" to line up and be seamless.
I'm just going to have to make a different design, or at least figure something out for the background.
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Jan 03, 04
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Thanks again for the help, I really appreciate it.
I dont think my design was very practical in the first place, I'm very creative but I dont have enough skills or knowledge to apply that properly to media like the net. I knew I was breaking someone the rules, but I figured I could get it to work somehow anyways haha, I guess not. It's all good. It's just that I need a site badly ( i bought the domain a year and a half ago, and want to start promoting myself more but I cant do that without a webpage) so.. this is just a temporary thing Untill i can find a RELIABLE designer to make something better for me.
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Jan 03, 04
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You could try picking up a program like Fireworks. Then you can draw your site, slice it up and export it for the Web so it will look the way you design it. But yeah, been doing this a while and I'm often bored at work, so feel free to ask if you have any questions. Oh, and if you want some cheap web hosting let me know. ;)
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Jan 03, 04
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Yeah, maybe I should try something like that. I'm just stubborn and would love if I could create something decent from scratch on my own.
Do you have msn or icq by any chance, so i can get ahold of you easier if I need to? And I do need cheap hosting actually, I also need someone to teach me how to get my page ON the net. The only way I've ever done it is with editors at envy.nu or yahoo haha.
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