Is Van more or Less Sketchy than it was in 2000

[Sir_K]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

the price of drugs are fuckin retardly cheaop compared to even a year ago..you can buy a cap at a rave for like 10 bones now.

Totally

When I used to do e the cost was betw 20-30 a cap- and that was for press tabs with all sorts of fukked up shit in them

Now I can get pure crystalline MDMA powder 100% pure for $4 per 100 mg- retardedly cheap

Considering I havent done it in two years and probably will never do it again, its a crying shame... probably could have saved a few hundred bucks over my raving days easy, thousands if you include my friends.

[decypher]

definately sketchier.. price of alot of stuff has gone down, possible from increased border restrictions from 9/11, causing dealers to have to sell it up here instead of taking it down.. who knows.. there is hardly any real MDMA in pills around here anyway...only small circles of people can actually get MDMA .. drugs are retarded.. all the people in white rock are crackheads who argue with each other over lines.. white rock is just that; filled with white rocks...

[jim]

Sir_Pud, just go away already.

once a fronter, always a fronter.

[BenGiovanni]

at imf i realised more sketchy shit went on than usual
seeing a fight break out, people puking allover the place, really fucked up nammers, some fucking kid at the back of the main room that couldnt stand cause he was soo high (from what i heard), topless machno dudes, hearing OVER and OVER again stories of girls being harasses, story of a rape attempt, cops busting people everywere, people bragging about taking 3-20 caps, stolen fones, cracked out people bad trippin, BAD E!, shortage of smokes and people around me also being short... NO REDBULL!, SHITTY ASS VIPS lately at parties, people fucking in stalls, people sucking and fucking on the bleachers, gay people making out, and thats just all at one rave...theres more but im too lazy to keep on thinking....

wow the scene is getting sketchier...
i think its timr for a break i think

[BenGiovanni]

Originally Posted by jim

People who refer to Vancouver as "VAN" are right up there on my hitlist with people who refer to Toronto as "T.O." and "T-Dot".

All of these people should be flogged to death with a wiffle ball bat.

does saying VAN-CITY count also hahhaha?

[MrDFrost]

Originally Posted by Bozga

at imf i realised more sketchy shit went on than usual
seeing a fight break out, people puking allover the place, really fucked up nammers, some fucking kid at the back of the main room that couldnt stand cause he was soo high (from what i heard), topless machno dudes, hearing OVER and OVER again stories of girls being harasses, story of a rape attempt, cops busting people everywere, people bragging about taking 3-20 caps, stolen fones, cracked out people bad trippin, BAD E!, shortage of smokes and people around me also being short... NO REDBULL!, SHITTY ASS VIPS lately at parties, people fucking in stalls, people sucking and fucking on the bleachers, gay people making out, and thats just all at one rave...theres more but im too lazy to keep on thinking....

wow the scene is getting sketchier...
i think its timr for a break i think

OMFG....uh slightly...Its really come to being with a nice group of friends, and partying at someones house.....I had more fun droppin unexptectedly with 2 of my friends, than at crave.....

[Dead Mike]

im not raving for awhile....its becoming all about the drugs...

seems like im one of a small group of people that are there to support the dj's, everyone else jus flails around aimlessly...i mean therye having fun...but the dj needs to feel like people are loving it and actually appreciating it...jus jus flailing to some electronic music that sounds good when theyre high.

[ƒORM]

It's actually quite funny when you ask where a lot of folks are from. I get a lot of "Toronto" answers and lots of people in from Calgary and Quebec. There also seems to be a flood coming in from up north that have lost work because of all the trucking shortages. Tons of people migrate here from all over Canada and chill out on the streets downtown whilst they panhandle the heck out of all our tourists and population.

Our problem areas are a complete shock to a lot of tourists who visit Vancouver for the first time. Many are absolutely disgusted when they see some of our poverty areas. They arrive with cameras and brochures about the lovely steam clock & attractions only to be soul shocked by the wrong turn they took at Hastings and Columbia to get to China town. They also were not impressed by the amount of panhandlers they encountered at every corner while they shopped for goodies.

Vancouver is one of the nicest cities in Canada and is also a haven for people who want to avoid the icy cold weather and have access to all the drugs they could dream of. With cheap pizza shops on almost every corner, free meals at the local shelter, hostel availability for 4 days ($20 with free meals), beautiful weather throughout the year, tons of cars to break into to, free outdoor entertainment and the best bud in Canada why would you not want to live here?

So your poll is suggesting that it’s Vancouvers fault for it’s current condition? The government is not about to start kicking people out of the Province. That would go against our freedom policies.

[Courtney]

I don't think Vancouver is that sketchy.
Sure, there are crackheads and some violence.
But we've got nothing on other countries.
Although, in other places the homeless people are usually more spread out, it's pretty crazy down hastings.

[Jingles]

Originally Posted by jim

People who refer to Vancouver as "VAN" are right up there on my hitlist with people who refer to Toronto as "T.O." and "T-Dot".

All of these people should be flogged to death with a wiffle ball bat.

As a faux whigger it is my right to refer to my hometown as the T Dot
cause it's hilarious

HILARIOUS

on a serious note, I call it T.O, the whole city does

[e_BoY]

i keep hearing peopel say e used to be $20-$30? my question was when was this? i started raving in 99 and even then it was $20 max. anyways thats not important

as for vancouver the drug problem has definatly went up. Unlike back around the late 90's alot of the gangs (only reffering to azns cause thats all i know personally) it was still always about the fighting and staring shit. picking fights or what not. after a while around 2000 or so all of them started changing and now every single friend i see all sells drugs. Now its all about making money and thats the only thing that matter to them. And obviously wiht money making means more drugs being pushed. hurt but oh well

[PwInCeSs]

Originally Posted by KenJi

I don't necessarily think their crackers, and junkies but ya I think its gone downhill for sure.

Their will always be druggies, but I find that since its alot easier in my mind to get certain drugs, and the cheapness of the drugs, more kids seem to be doing them.

Its my opinion though

i agree here

[Hispeeddub]

Originally Posted by ƒORM

So your poll is suggesting that it’s Vancouvers fault for it’s current condition? The government is not about to start kicking people out of the Province. That would go against our freedom policies.

Just to clarify, not like it matters or anything but I am not a "T.O" native
my intent wasn’t to "suggest" anything... I’m moving back to BC and was just wondering how things are these days, that’s all.
Curious, what would kicking people out of the city gain?
Are you suggesting that its mostly lazy people from other provinces who move to "Van" to slack off and use drugs? That’s a bit of a generalization don’t you think? I would assume things are the way they are due to more factors.

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[Hispeeddub]

Originally Posted by e_BoY

i keep hearing peopel say e used to be $20-$30? my question was when was this? i started raving in 99 and even then it was $20 max. anyways thats not important

I remeber paying 35-40 in "Van" around 97-98.... but maybe that was just becasue i was n00b... but yeah who cares

[e_BoY]

^^
$35-$40? wow it better of been good e. or else what a rip

[Sarah...]

all the little ones at raves makes being there a little weird...
there should be a rule u have to be at least 16 or sumthin

[oxide]

you're asking a 5 year old raver community about the sketchiness quotient..

is kettle more or less black than the pot?