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Old Sep 30, 04
 
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2005 Draft Kept Quiet... Please Help

i know that this belongs in Politics, but it affects everyone in America ages 18-26 as well as Canada, as you may have to send troops as well. - and I think it will be noticed here. I apologize if someone already posted this. I just recieved this email this morning.

Subject: Mandatory draft 6/15/05



Express your preference.

Mandatory draft for boys and girls (ages 18-26)
starting June 15, 2005, is something that everyone should know about.
This literally effects everyone since we all have or know children
that will have to go if this bill passes.
There is pending legislation in the house and
senate (companion bills: S89 and HR 163) which will time the
program's initiation so the draft can begin as early as spring, 2005,
just after the 2004 presidential election. The administration is
quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's
attention is on the elections, so our action on this is needed
immediately. Details and links follow.
This plan, among other things, eliminates higher
education as a shelter and includes women in the draft. Also,
crossing into Canada has already been made very difficult.

Actions:

Please send this on to all the parents and teachers
you know, and all the aunts and uncles, grandparents, godparents. . .
And let your children know - - it's their future, and they can be a
powerful voice for change!

This legislation is called HR 163 and can be found
in detail at this website:

http://thomas.loc.gov/
Just enter in "HR 163" and click search and will
bring up the bill for you to read. It is less than two pages long.

If this bill passes, it will include all men and
ALL WOMEN from ages 18 - 26 in a draft for military action. In
addition, college will no longer be an option for avoiding the draft
and they will be signing an agreement with the Canada which will no
longer permit anyone attempting to dodge the draft to stay within
it's borders. This bill also includes the extention of military
service for all those that are currently active. If you go to the
selcet service web site and read their 2004 FYI Goals you will see
that the reasoning for this is to increase the size of the military
in case of terrorism. This is a critical piece of legislation, this
will effect our undergradates, our children and our grandchildren.
Please take the time to write your congressman and let them know how
you feel about this legislation.
www.house.gov www.senate.gov
Please also write to your representatives and ask
them why they aren't telling their constituents about these bills and
write to newspapers and other media outlets to ask them why they're
not covering this important story.

The draft $28 million has been added to the 2004
selective service system budget to prepare for a military draft that
could start as early as June 15, 2005. Selective service must report
to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant for
decades, is ready for activation.
Please see www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html to view
the Selective Service System annual performance plan, fiscal year
2004.
The pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to
fill all 10,350 draft board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots
nationwide. Though this is an unpopular election year topic, military
experts and influential members of congress are suggesting that if
Rumsfeld's prediction of a "long, hard slog" in Iraq and Afghanistan
(and permanent state of war on terrorism) proves accurate, the U.S.
may have no choice but to draft.

www.hslda.org/legislation/national/2003/s89/default.asp entitled the
Universal National service Act of 2003, "to provide for the common
defense by requiring that all young persons (age 18-26) in the United
States, including women, perform a period of military service or a
period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and
homeland security, and for other purposes." These active bills
currently sit in the committee on armed services. Dodging the draft
will be more difficult than those from the Vietnam era. College and
Canada will not be options.
In December, 200 1, Canada and the U.S.
signed a "smart border declaration," which could be used to keep
would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada's minister of foreign
affairs, John Manley, and U.S. Homeland Security director, Tom Ridge,
the declaration involves a 30 point plan which implements, among
other things, a "pre-clearance agreement" of people entering and
departing each country.
Reforms aimed at making the draft more
equitable along gender and class lines also eliminates higher
education as a shelter. Underclassmen would only be able to postpone
service until the end of their current semester. Seniors would have
until the end of the academic year.

What to do: Tell your friends, Contact your
legislators and ask them to oppose these bills

Just type "congress" into the aol search engine
and input your zip code. A list of your reps will pop up with a way
to email them directly. We can't just sit and pretend that by
ignoring it, it will go away. We must voice our concerns and create
the world we want to live in for our children and grandchildren.
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Old Sep 30, 04
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LOL.....Oh Canada. On guard we (don't) stand for thee. True Patriot (at home) love.
Fuck how I love being Canadian. sorry Ashes have fun in IRAQ. LOL. J/K
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Good... more little shithead Punks should spend time in the Military. I bet if we had mandatory service here and in the U.S. you'd notice society as a whole increase in respect and cleanliness.
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i seriously doubt that dude... i'd rather ROT IN JAIL TILL THE END OF TIME then serve this fucking military... if it was mandatory, we'd end up with abuncha fuckin meatheads... all brainwashed and thinking the same way...

this may be funny to you guyz, but this makes me more angry than anything i have ever felt before. my lack of ability to stop this is what makes it so hard... i will not EVER fight for this goverment.. not the way it is now.. FUCK THAT.
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It's funny because you have no idea how the Military works. Now a days the military is promoting individual thought at the squad level because it's been proven that when soldiers are given more room to manoeuver they become way more effective tactically. Sure you look the same, big fucking deal, at least then there'd be less skids around because everyone would know how to shine shoes and use a goddamn iron. You'd rather be in an AMERICAN jail than in the military? hahahahah the military gives you free shelter, food, clothing and friggin' pays you to put up with the crap. The Prison will have you in a cell with Large Marge and you don't want that, their uniforms are ugly and the food is shit. Someone needs to do some reasearch.


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Originally Posted by mapleleaf4ever
Good... more little shithead Punks should spend time in the Military. I bet if we had mandatory service here and in the U.S. you'd notice society as a whole increase in respect and cleanliness.

Yes! It certainly worked wonders for all the unwilling comrades forced into Vietnam! Definitely a good idea to try it again!


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^ Ah! But have you seen their Shoes!!! I could shave in one and serve a meal on the other! ;)
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It's funny because you have no idea how the Military works. Now a days the military is promoting individual thought at the squad level because it's been proven that when soldiers are given more room to manoeuver they become way more effective tactically. Sure you look the same, big fucking deal, at least then there'd be less skids around because everyone would know how to shine shoes and use a goddamn iron. You'd rather be in an AMERICAN jail than in the military? hahahahah the military gives you free shelter, food, clothing and friggin' pays you to put up with the crap. The Prison will have you in a cell with Large Marge and you don't want that, their uniforms are ugly and the food is shit. Someone needs to do some reasearch.


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fuck that. i have done my fucking RESEARCH there smarty.. my whole point is that it DOESNT MATTER if the military is better food/shelter/clothing wise.. i dont give a flying fuck, i dont wanna support this war, and so i am simply not going to. im not going to die in Iraq cause george-y needs oil money. no.

and dont EVEN try to tell me that you dont get brainwashed in the military, a really good friend of mine is at west point right now... and i KNOW he's going to get sent overseas to fight... fuckin smartest kid i ever seen get broken like that. fuck that. you dont know what you are talking about there bro... i dont want my country filled with abuncha fucked up veterans and abuncha brainwashed soldiers... again... FUCK that.
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Old Sep 30, 04
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stupid america.
stupid canada.

if that happens im going to start bombing shit.

that is all.
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Old Sep 30, 04
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This doesen't effect canada as far as i read... Only thing canada is involved in is making sure you americans are forced to stay in america instead of trying to dodge the draft. Glad im a canadian citizen. I want nothing to do with neo-hitlers war machine...
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This doesen't effect canada as far as i read... Only thing canada is involved in is making sure you americans are forced to stay in america instead of trying to dodge the draft. Glad im a canadian citizen. I want nothing to do with neo-hitlers war machine...
yes you are correct sir, that is the only thing this specific information speaks to. However, Canada is protected by the united states in alot of ways, and if it comes down to it, they will be asked to "contribute" to the cause, if you get my drift... which is even more fukd up... but just dont think this doesnt effect you... because it does.
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signing an agreement with the Canada
Okay.. I know you guys are THE United States of America.. but we definately aren't THE Canada

thanks.
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Of course it effects me, im just glad i wont be shipped off to fight a pointless war "to spread democracy" ... but it does affect our economy and im sure many other things. Why do you think i hate bush so much? i hated him even before 9/11
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Okay.. I know you guys are THE United States of America.. but we definately aren't THE Canada

thanks.
i was trying to say the canadians, but was typing to quickly fucking PARDON me bitch...
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Of course it effects me, im just glad i wont be shipped off to fight a pointless war "to spread democracy" ... but it does affect our economy and im sure many other things. Why do you think i hate bush so much? i hated him even before 9/11
i hated bush b4 he was george W bush... back when it was jus old george b.
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i was trying to say the canadians, but was typing to quickly fucking PARDON me bitch...
and i'm supposed to be offended by some dumb UGLY american that calls me a bitch?

read my signature.. i already know i'm a bitch.. got anything better?
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well at least im hawt enuf to put up a real pic of myself insteada some cartoon with big tits ya cow.. and i dont care if ur offended i find u amusing...haha.
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you look like a dumb raver to me in that pic..

and i like my avatar.. i've even gotten comments that it's nice..

omg *cry* i'm a cow. so *hurt*
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i know that this belongs in Politics, but it affects everyone in America ages 18-26 as well as Canada, as you may have to send troops as well.

LOL. last time I checked, Canada wasn't supporting your governments stupid war. So no, we won't be sending any troops.
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LOL. last time I checked, Canada wasn't supporting your governments stupid war. So no, we won't be sending any troops.
whatever man, if you arent going to bother readin the whole thing.. or looking into how this is going to effect you.. its no diz ta me.. i dont care....
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you look like a dumb raver to me in that pic..
how do i look like a raver? sunglasses >> every1 wear those... hat>> ever1 wears hats... hmm no candy no nuthin! oaky oaky so i do like to rave.. hahaha.. whatever, i aint tryina start nothin here... mainly i wanted to say that i meant "the canadians" thats it.. so yeah.. buh bye
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it's gonna affect us by .. us getting rid of unwanted americans? sounds good to me .
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not everyone wears orange sunglasses .. but anyway.. i wasn't starting shit either.. i just made a post that we aren't the canada ..
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