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Old Nov 09, 04
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Well if ravers are losers... I guess we all lose.
Dont listen to me.. im being whipped by a monster these days. :'(
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Old Nov 09, 04
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If you were to take an underground party from then and compare it to now. There would be a big diffrence. Take a look at what two_six said.. whens the last time you went a check point?! or had to jump in tha back of a one ton?! and all that other stuff.. pretent your filming a movie!?
Pretend you're filming a movie... hrm... haven't done that one in a while, but I think the reason behind that is that I've been to a total of 2 warehouse parties since 2002.... They both had checkpoints (including the one this past April).... Neither had shuttle busses because the crowds were pretty much old enough to get their on their own... I think the last shuttle I was at was for one of David's Theatre E parties....

Seriously. There's not that much difference for me partying today except maybe that the crowds are getting older at the parties I'm attending, but y'see, I blame that merely on the fact that I'm getting old. I know full well that there are plenty of the kiddie-filled parties kicking around... I just choose not to attend them.

Is the scene different than it used to be? Damn sure. But that's because time changes things.

But is the scene any better than it used to be? I dunno. The music tends to be going down in quality (seriously... have enough nuskool & techhouse at Shambhala?) though the vibe still remains top notch.... Like I said, 3 best parties I've been to have all been this year, simply because at each one they had all the same no-problems no-rules no-drama vibes that I got day one raving.... The people are all doing the exact same thing they always have at raves.... They may be different faces, but the stories are all the same.
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Old Nov 09, 04
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depends how old you are.....


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Old Nov 09, 04
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The shuttle buses were mandatory back then tho.. remember even if you had a vehicle you had to park it at King George, and wait for the shuttle.. didn't matter who you were unless you were actually helping out with the venue.. like ticket sellers had no sonority. Like they do now. Everybody was a no body.. now if you look around everyones involved in teh scene and is getting in for free, no wonder theres fewer prod. companies that make it.

See you basically have a choice to chose because, face it we are into diffrent types of music. Granted there are some parties with the music I like around but they aint common. I'm better off goin to a club, so I don't have to deal with the twelveteen year olds.

K, I'm sorry Dave.. but really.. can't you compare Shambhala to any party out here?! I don't think so.. Goin to that was like goin to a party in 2000 for me. IMO.
As of recently.. I've noticed more rules/drama/promblems.. but I usually try and block them out and just go dance.. Simply because I'm not at a party to socialize.
But I can name some production companies that don't put out for people that goto the parties for the reason I do.. and I chose not to suport them when I find that out. From what I remember back in 2000/2001 the stages dilevered more when it came to music, sound and visuals[no you don't have to be high to enjoy the visuals]. Let alone.. when it came to the line up's they weren't a dime a dozen like now. EVERY party these days are the same.. except they switch the time slots. Variety is nice. We don't have that anymore.
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holy jesus! look at the books being written here.. get a life you turkeys!
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Old Nov 09, 04
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Old Nov 09, 04
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The scene was going to shit around 2000, and was dead in 2001. (I started back in 97) People pretty much after that point started treating the scene as a consumer product. Parties of all sizes took on the vibe of a shopping mall, or high school. Things got way to cliquey.

True there's killer pockets here and there. But those events have little or nothing to do with the kids around here.
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Old Nov 09, 04
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Ps people take what Ebbomega has to say with a grain of sand. The kid only just learn to let go in the past year or two. He's finally figure out what it ment to rave, or TAZ or what ever it's called.
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Who knows? Spose that's true or whatever. But it's not like I spent a buncha years partying, did drugs at a rave and then all of a sudden forgot everything I had seen the whole time.

What I've seen is more of the same all over here. Seriously. The parties haven't changed. Only people's attitudes.

I'm certain about 2 years down the road I'll be like "Aw, man, parties were _NOTHING_ like they were in 2004!" or something like that. But just speaking as someone who got to watch the scene for a decent amount of time, this is what I've observed. I guess not having done drugs at raves for such a long time means that I had no clue what was going on around me? Take it for what it's worth, but I still say my observations have validity, possibly moreso because I was actually sober during the time.

Hein. Like I said, all I've ever seen is people bitching about how it was SO MUCH BETTER back then and whatnot, and now I'm hearing people say shit like "2001 was the last good year of partying." Fuck, in 2001 I went to _plenty_ of shitty parties, most of them massives.

Heck, even when LoungeX came online in 1998, there were people complaining at NWT how it was just filled with candyravers and glowstick-waving n00bs.

I'm willing to admit that there was a time, before my existence as a raver, that the parties were in fact different.... I don't have any choice but to not doubt it just on the basis that it's what I've heard from everybody who was around at that point.

But Dave, if I went around saying how my best raving years were in 2001 and that parties were oh-so-much better then, would I really be any different than the people who are gonna be complaining about our latest bunch of n00bs in about 6 or so months? Seems to me that it really doesn't make a difference.

The scene merely is. An experience is entirely what you make it. Just because your drugs have worn off doesn't mean anything about how the vibe has changed or how the scene has gone downhill or whatever... Remember that all reality is entirely subjective, yeah?
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Old Nov 09, 04
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Very good question to ask! hmmm i think i had more fun back in 2000-2001 cuz the vibe was better but now the DJ's comming in town are insane! If i had to choose, i'd say before!
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Old Nov 09, 04
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The elitest before the ones now probably bitched about how we were making there scene crappy back in the late 90's. They just never had fnk to bitch on. The next generation of raver's will get the same treatment and so on.
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^ Hi Riel!
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Old Nov 09, 04
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The shuttle buses were mandatory back then tho.. remember even if you had a vehicle you had to park it at King George, and wait for the shuttle.. didn't matter who you were unless you were actually helping out with the venue.. like ticket sellers had no sonority. Like they do now. Everybody was a no body.. now if you look around everyones involved in teh scene and is getting in for free, no wonder theres fewer prod. companies that make it.

See you basically have a choice to chose because, face it we are into diffrent types of music. Granted there are some parties with the music I like around but they aint common. I'm better off goin to a club, so I don't have to deal with the twelveteen year olds.

K, I'm sorry Dave.. but really.. can't you compare Shambhala to any party out here?! I don't think so.. Goin to that was like goin to a party in 2000 for me. IMO.
As of recently.. I've noticed more rules/drama/promblems.. but I usually try and block them out and just go dance.. Simply because I'm not at a party to socialize.
But I can name some production companies that don't put out for people that goto the parties for the reason I do.. and I chose not to suport them when I find that out. From what I remember back in 2000/2001 the stages dilevered more when it came to music, sound and visuals[no you don't have to be high to enjoy the visuals]. Let alone.. when it came to the line up's they weren't a dime a dozen like now. EVERY party these days are the same.. except they switch the time slots. Variety is nice. We don't have that anymore.
Please, shut up and stop being stupid.
It can't be helped that you consistently go to shitty parties.
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Old Nov 09, 04
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^who said I always goto horrible parties Jeff? there is the odd good one out there.

But I don't like Hardcore.. so of course I wont goto the parties you goto.. And I have been to them.. not my thing. IMO.
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Old Nov 09, 04
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Old Nov 09, 04
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Originally Posted by Bitchin
^who said I always goto horrible parties Jeff? there is the odd good one out there.

But I don't like Hardcore.. so of course I wont goto the parties you goto.. And I have been to them.. not my thing. IMO.
Who said Doom was talking about hardcore parties...
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Old Nov 09, 04
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Jeff, I meant it as in the sense you goto those parties[hardcore,acidtechno, whatever] and I don't enjoy those.. I rahter goto a breaks jungle party.. simply becuase I do enjoy that music.
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Old Nov 17, 04
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Its always better when something is new to you. The reason raves might have been better in the early 90's is because the music was also new too and not everyone and their mom was a producer or a dj.


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Old Nov 17, 04
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After parties on Station St! Whatever happened to those?
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Old Nov 17, 04
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After parties on Station St! Whatever happened to those?
Station Street turned into a real sketchy dive and the city shut it down.
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Old Nov 17, 04
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Station Street turned into a real sketchy dive and the city shut it down.
Damn...I remember "Station" after parties starting to be more fun then the actual party....
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