What is PLUR ??

[dapimpstress]

Originally Posted by DiZz_E

plur... come on now.

Parties Lack Unity & Respect

sad but true...


MAD werd.

[Séguin]

PLUR is an ideology that died in 1992

[G-Style]

Originally Posted by Robb Peppertre

PLUR is an ideology that died in 1992

This is so true. I mean P.L.U.R used to be the driving forcce behind this scene. People had mutual respect for each other and their belongings Now this scene has a huge chip on it's shoulder with EGO's getting invoved. There never used to be EGO's. Everyone was there to have a good time and listen to some great music. Now it's slowly turning into purely another buisness where the people co-ordinating the events are doing them purely for money with little or no passion for the scene itself. I can honestly say I have never seen this scene in any worse shape.

[dr0pdeadfred]

at most parties there is still a few people that live by PLUR, im one of them

plur is definatly not dead as long as some still belive in it

[dapimpstress]

Originally Posted by ch0dab0y

at most parties there is still a few people that live by PLUR, im one of them

plur is definatly not dead as long as some still belive in it

tru dat tru dat...

[Canar]

IMO, PLUR is generally the sensation of doing E for the first few times at parties with good vibes. Everyone's friendly, people aren't there to be assholes, and everyone just wants to have fun.

As you realize that the rave scene isn't just solely that and that there is a dark side, you tend to abandon the global sense of PLUR and restrict it to a subset of people you meet.

That said, it's a worthy ideology, also an ideal that's unattainable. I like the idea, personally.

[DJ Ponz]

If only I had a penny for everytime I've rolled my eyes at this thread.....

Cliches transend and destroy meaning, so it's better that we don't use them.

[Canar]

Originally Posted by DJ Ponz

Cliches transend and destroy meaning, so it's better that we don't use them.

Cliches generally have a well-defined, if somewhat idiomatic meaning. They neither transcend (they are not beyond the scope of) nor destroy (they do not remove information from) meaning. The reason people don't use cliches is because they're over-used and boring.

In other words, start rolling your eyes at your "philosophy" and leave the PLUR-happy folks alone.

[jomama]

Originally Posted by e_BoY

PLUR no longer exists. Please dont dsay that word anymore

im full of plur!

[wikid]

^^^ I second that.

I am all for plur and I spread the plur (and support it) 110%.
plur is the way everybody should live their life- plur will never die. (just be brought on by a new generation:))

[DJ Ponz]

Originally Posted by Canar

Cliches generally have a well-defined, if somewhat idiomatic meaning. They neither transcend (they are not beyond the scope of) nor destroy (they do not remove information from) meaning. The reason people don't use cliches is because they're over-used and boring.

In other words, start rolling your eyes at your "philosophy" and leave the PLUR-happy folks alone.

The banality of PLUR makes it a useless fragment of the english language. As you say, cliches are cliches because their over used - they're are phrases or ideas that are so boring to the rest of the world (in this case, the raver community) because they're antiquated and unoriginal. They transend meaning because they take on entirely different assumptions when they're overused. For instance, PLUR is not Peace Love Unity Respect for me - at one time it was; but now it means child-like drug-induced dissociation from reality. PLUR destroys meaning precisely because it transends it; start a thread and ask "What does PLUR mean to you?" You'll have 10000 different answers. What was once a refined, focused philosphy is now gobbledegook for raver trash.

I'm not presenting any "philosophy" here as you suggest; just logic and reason.

[dr0pdeadfred]

Originally Posted by jomama

im full of plur!

*hug*

[Goodfellow]

Originally Posted by DJ Ponz

The banality of PLUR makes it a useless fragment of the english language. As you say, cliches are cliches because their over used - they're are phrases or ideas that are so boring to the rest of the world (in this case, the raver community) because they're antiquated and unoriginal. They transend meaning because they take on entirely different assumptions when they're overused. For instance, PLUR is not Peace Love Unity Respect for me - at one time it was; but now it means child-like drug-induced dissociation from reality. PLUR destroys meaning precisely because it transends it; start a thread and ask "What does PLUR mean to you?" You'll have 10000 different answers. What was once a refined, focused philosphy is now gobbledegook for raver trash.

I'm not presenting any "philosophy" here as you suggest; just logic and reason.

see, in my opinion, it shouldn't matter what drug induced dissociated kids think the word means, rather what it means to you. if you support the love/respect lifestyle then live by it and stop caring what stupid kids do, if they are smart enough they'll turn around..

[Canar]

Originally Posted by DJ Ponz

The banality of PLUR makes it a useless fragment of the english language. As you say, cliches are cliches because their over used - they're are phrases or ideas that are so boring to the rest of the world (in this case, the raver community) because they're antiquated and unoriginal. They transend meaning because they take on entirely different assumptions when they're overused. For instance, PLUR is not Peace Love Unity Respect for me - at one time it was; but now it means child-like drug-induced dissociation from reality. PLUR destroys meaning precisely because it transends it; start a thread and ask "What does PLUR mean to you?" You'll have 10000 different answers. What was once a refined, focused philosphy is now gobbledegook for raver trash.

You're arguing that because PLUR's connotation is not equal to its denotation that it somehow transcends meaning. This is very untrue. Asking "What does PLUR mean to you" requests connotative meaning. The denotative meaning is well-defined: an acronym for "Peace, Love, Unity, Respect". Any reasonably complex question phrased like that can "transend(sic) meaning". For example, what does love mean to you? What do cheese dogs mean to you? Neither of these requests denotation.

I'm not presenting any "philosophy" here as you suggest; just logic and reason.

Again, check your definitions. The second definition states philosophy is the "investigation of the nature, causes, or principles of reality, knowledge, or values, based on logical reasoning rather than empirical methods", which is precisely your argument.

For instance, PLUR is not Peace Love Unity Respect for me - at one time it was; but now it means child-like drug-induced dissociation from reality.

This is what I was arguing several posts of mine back. In my experience, this statement of yours holds true for all ravers that have been around a bit, and I figure it'll hold true for the PLUR crowd today down the road at some point. Mind you, I think there's some truth to the belief that the more mainstream raves get, the less PLUR is really understood.

[wikid]

I think a lot of this has to do with stereotypical people.


just like for anti-ravers who have never been to a rave saying that raves suck and are not a lot of fun and you HAVE to do extacy and become all stupid all night. that is stereotyping.

I think the veterans are stereotyping EVERYSINGLEFUCKINGBODY as being a fucking stupid little etard kiddy schoolgirl candyraver kid - which is pathetic - because while some are and some arent, we all in an essence grow up. I know a lot of raver veterans who admit to being a candy kid at one point, yet somehow they have the nerve to be hippocritical and diss candy kids now.
honestly if everybody got off there high horse and just kept to their own business - if theres going to be etarded kiddy ravers - let them do their thing. it honestly doesnt affect your night entirely much if you see a bunch of kiddy ravers (ALONG with your group of friends) or if you dont see a bunch of kiddy ravers and still have your friends to party with - honestly, it comes down to the fact that a lot of everybody cares wayyy too much about nothing. if everybody just stopped caring baout all the minor things in life - we would be much better off; actually be able to reminisce in the PLUR; and perhaps war will be over and world peace will be acheived through sunlight and heaven droplets of happiness and love and world unity ------ :sick: but theres always going to be the group that agrees in life - and theres always going to be the group that disagrees in life.

sometimes I wonder if they disagree just for the sake of disagreeing....

[Custard]

Originally Posted by Canar

IMO, PLUR is generally the sensation of doing E for the first few times at parties with good vibes. Everyone's friendly, people aren't there to be assholes, and everyone just wants to have fun.

As you realize that the rave scene isn't just solely that and that there is a dark side, you tend to abandon the global sense of PLUR and restrict it to a subset of people you meet.

its becomes subset, cause you realize from all teh drug use, you can't remember as many names.

[Crazy Dave]

Plur is more fun the gay porn!

[crookedking]

Originally Posted by GoodFlow

I keep reading it and have no idea, based on the culture i'm going to guess Peace Love Unity Respect?

or something else?

it means, "yo momma!"

[sketchtechkid]

plur exisetst in everyone one way or another but shiot its not jsut used inr aves use it in life i found it helped me

[Bitchin]

^ew, I can;t beilive this.. but i'm gonna agree with you......


even whenI was a plur bag.. I still think thers an act of plur in anthing... its like sayin hi to someone you dont know.
oi,

but we need to get the k and S in there.. HAHAHA
'fuck.

[trance4life]

a thread about plur? impossible

[wikid]

Originally Posted by trance4life

a thread about plur? impossible

LOL, simply lol

[drinaboo]

ummmmmmmmmmmmmm plur is my middle name!!!!!!!!!!!

[Niko]

Originally Posted by Custard

its becomes subset, cause you realize from all teh drug use, you can't remember as many names.

I really wish I could disagree with this statement...

[{dC!}]

Originally Posted by drinaboo

ummmmmmmmmmmmmm plur is my middle name!!!!!!!!!!!

Dear gawd Drina ;):)