fake n' bakin in the winter

[mugsy]

maybe i shouldnt be so reliant on my regular gp, but she says for me going to a tanning bed would be asking for skin cancer. BUT this is due to the genetics of cancer\cancer growth within my family. quite frankly its enough to make me not want to ever do it, or have anyone i care about do it either. my dad did it once, and i was angry beyond beliefe at him.
plus anything that causes me to have to moisturize more or rather, anything that dries out my skin does not seem right. maybe i have no idea, but isnt the coloring of a tan the color of damaged skin? please do correct me, i honestly want to know why it is we change color. and i dont think its a good idea to "cook" yourself under a light, easy bake oven anyone?

[~Sc@ndelu$~]

i go occasionally... but thats cus my good freind lil tiff and other friends called me Casper :( :( lol jk but i go sometimes now so that im not so pasty. Its so relaxing too, i always fall asleep.

[galaxie]

Originally Posted by bananasinpjs

vitamin D deficiency? you speak as if this is a conclusively proven fact. no one really knows the cause of SAD. some think it's due to changes in the circadian rhythms or maybe even an increase in levels of melatonin.

though bright lights appears to alleviate it, you don't to increase your risk of skin cancer to get it. :P

Well, my doctor told me otherwise, and I am far more inclined to listen to my doctor's advice than that of a nursing student :P

[galaxie]

Originally Posted by mugsy

maybe i shouldnt be so reliant on my regular gp, but she says for me going to a tanning bed would be asking for skin cancer. BUT this is due to the genetics of cancer\cancer growth within my family. quite frankly its enough to make me not want to ever do it, or have anyone i care about do it either. my dad did it once, and i was angry beyond beliefe at him.
plus anything that causes me to have to moisturize more or rather, anything that dries out my skin does not seem right. maybe i have no idea, but isnt the coloring of a tan the color of damaged skin? please do correct me, i honestly want to know why it is we change color. and i dont think its a good idea to "cook" yourself under a light, easy bake oven anyone?

Everyone's skin tans, and reacts to UV rays differently.
That being said, what is OK for some people in small amounts, can be damaging for others. At my studio, you have to fill out a form about your skin. There are key questions about your ability to tan, and if you are too fair or have the wrong skin type, they won't allow you to tan there.

[Joanne]

Originally Posted by galaxie

Well, my doctor told me otherwise, and I am far more inclined to listen to my doctor's advice than that of a nursing student :P

well actually, a lot of my knowledge on SAD is based on my background in psychology, as well as literature from my own research and ones presented by professors who specialize in the biological aspects of psychology.

but I suppose choosing to blindly follow doctors because they are oh-so-superior is ok too :)

--Joanne :P

[Lush]

[quote=Ashes]

Originally Posted by LadyShades

I tan on and off in the Winter but mostly because it improves your skin and helps seasonal depression QUOTE]

um WHAT the HELL are you talking about? im sorry not trying to be agro or anything, but dude, TANNING DOES NOT IMPROVE YOUR SKIN IT GIVES YOU CANCER.... jus a heads up here... and seasonal depression? i dont think tanning has anything to do with that... maybe because u increase your confidence in your body image or something...

Umm... excuse me, tanning DOES improve your skin, go talk to any doctor, tanning in moderation will clear up moderate acne and blemishes that's why doctors have even been known to prescribe light boxes for people suffering from skin problems.

Yes, too much sun exposure does cause skin cancer, but why is it that people feel it's alright to excessively tan in the summer but it's not ok to tan using beds?

I think Galaxie covered it pretty well in her post.

Ashes, if you think that spending money on smoking pot is more justified than spending money tanning then there's something seriously wrong there. I'm not saying one is better than the other I just think it's stupid of you to post something like that because it makes you look like a hypocrite.

[mugsy]

Originally Posted by galaxie

Everyone's skin tans, and reacts to UV rays differently.

i get that, but what makes the skin turn brown? like what is the chemical process happening?

p.s. i dont tan in the summer, i work outdoors in pools, i wear a wet suit, and put 30 spf on my face because the water makes me burn\tan faster, and i put 8 everywhere else because i find it gives me the same protection everywhere else as would a 30. straight up i just dont think tanning is a good thing. every once in awhile i find myself thinking\calling myself pasty or wondering if i should lie in the sun for a bit - then i think of my health.

[miss.myra]

The GREAT part about getting a tan is because usually you had fun getting it (you went camping or spent a day at the beach or played sports..whatever)

I find hanging out in some bright booth..and PAYING to get that is just not something I could picture myself doing. But hey, if its your thing then GO for it!

oh and I think pasty on me looks beautiful ;)

[Joanne]

Originally Posted by mugsy

i get that, but what makes the skin turn brown? like what is the chemical process happening?

p.s. i dont tan in the summer, i work outdoors in pools, i wear a wet suit, and put 30 spf on my face because the water makes me burn\tan faster, and i put 8 everywhere else because i find it gives me the same protection everywhere else as would a 30. straight up i just dont think tanning is a good thing. every once in awhile i find myself thinking\calling myself pasty or wondering if i should lie in the sun for a bit - then i think of my health.

the process of your skin turning brown is actually it's way of protecting itself from UV damage. see, your body has these things called melanocytes which produce melanin (a pigment). this is what contributes to your skin colour (darker skin produces more melanin, lighter skin produces less). the reason why our skin changes while you tan is because melanin also protects your DNA from being damaged from the UV light. so when you're tanning, that's the melanocytes producing more melanin. the problem with tanning yourself too much is that the melanocytes themselves are susceptible to damage by UV light.




for Natalie: I also wanted to mention, phototherapy is also a type of treatment option for people with SAD. however, I'm unsure of whether or not it exposes you to UV rays and if it does, how much UV rays it exposes you to in comparison to tanning salons.

--Joanne :P

[Joanne]

Originally Posted by LadyShades

Umm... excuse me, tanning DOES improve your skin, go talk to any doctor, tanning in moderation will clear up moderate acne and blemishes that's why doctors have even been known to prescribe light boxes for people suffering from skin problems.

not every doctor will tell you that tanning will clear up acne. I've heard both sides of the story and there are a lot of doctors who will say that it's a just a myth.

--Joanne :P

[Kelster]

Originally Posted by galaxie

Well, my doctor told me otherwise, and I am far more inclined to listen to my doctor's advice than that of a nursing student :P

so like, is it covered my medical???

jk


i hate blotchy uneven skin, and i found that tanning evened things out for me...i'm really contemplating getting some sun in before i leave

[Ree Fresh]

Originally Posted by galaxie

Well, my doctor told me otherwise, and I am far more inclined to listen to my doctor's advice than that of a nursing student :P

I think in some ways I'd probly be more willing to belive a STUDENT since they are in the very current and upto date information coming out ;)


I dont think tanning is bad nore good for you. I think it's one of those put into moderation things. Therefore I do it every so often on and off.

I tend to get very deprest in the winter time and I blame it all on the weather/lack of sun.
Im a sun lover and feel amazing when I tan; relaxed, energized, soo warm... I tend to bring my favorite cd and just block out the world.

I do get anoyed at how taning salons smear all this "Vitamin D defeciency" stuff as none of the dr.'s actauly say go fake n bake to cure it.
However I would belive the articles that say if you never let the sun hit your skin... that would make you more prone to skin cancer. Kind of like building an amune system.

I think if it feels good, makes you look good(have a glow) than maybe mother nature is trying to tell us somthing?

[Ree Fresh]

Originally Posted by Kelster

i hate blotchy uneven skin, and i found that tanning evened things out for me...i'm really contemplating getting some sun in before i leave

I did that b4 I hit Aus and Thialand. A good way to build up your skin so its ready for there crazy HOT sun. That way I avoided looking like some fo those pomy lobsters... wich would be ten times worse for you!


I think it makes sence... just dont over do it and let your skin get too much, build it up slowly. They say about 10 minutes of good sun a couple times a week should be good for you.

[dapimpstress]

Originally Posted by LadyShades

Ashes, if you think that spending money on smoking pot is more justified than spending money tanning then there's something seriously wrong there. I'm not saying one is better than the other I just think it's stupid of you to post something like that because it makes you look like a hypocrite.

WHAT?!? you think cuz i BURN HERBS, im a hypocryte cuz i dont GO TANNING?!?

oh lord... okay there is NO CONNECTION... one is for recreation, the other is for vanity.

all im saying, its not good for ur skin, because it GIVES YOU CANCER... im not talking about acne.. acne is temporary, cancer can be PERMANENT. werd? werd.

[Ree Fresh]

^but you have to take into concideration that never exposing your skin to sun will make you MORE prone to cancer!!!

Does that make any sence or should I explain in further detail?



Except for Meghan... thats a tough one if skin cancer is genetic:(

[dapimpstress]

Originally Posted by wellbelove's

^but you have to take into concideration that never exposing your skin to sun will make you MORE prone to cancer!!!

Does that make any sence or should I explain in further detail?

hey look chicky.. did i say LIVE IN YOUR BASEMENT AND NEVER COME OUT TO SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY??

no, i am simply trying to make the point that continually over exposing your skin to UVA nad UVB rays is BAD for you because it contributes to skin cancer.

Does that make any SENSE or should I explain in further detail?

[carmEl]

seriously.. either way.. u wanna go tanning.. so just go.. even if everyone on this site is anti tanning.. and u wanna go ull probably just do it anyways.. so go :)

[galaxie]

Originally Posted by Ashes

all im saying, its not good for ur skin, because it GIVES YOU CANCER... im not talking about acne.. acne is temporary, cancer can be PERMANENT. werd? werd.

OMFG! @#$%

What kind of a genius are you? SMOKING WEED CAUSES CANCER!!!!
Holy crap!! Do you know the amounts of tar and other crap contained in a joint? Jeebus, you ARE a hypocrite!

Tanning is not only for vanity, read the rest of the freaking post. And acne can be permanent - for some people there is no effective treatment.

And who cares about vanity, anyway? I'd rather look hot than ugly, and anyone who says that they don't care about appearance is a LIAR (unless they are blind).

[galaxie]

Originally Posted by Kelster

so like, is it covered my medical???

jk


i hate blotchy uneven skin, and i found that tanning evened things out for me...i'm really contemplating getting some sun in before i leave

haha I WISH!

I hate my blotchy, uneven skin, too.
Thank you tan and foundation!

[dapimpstress]

Originally Posted by galaxie

OMFG! @#$%

What kind of a genius are you? SMOKING WEED CAUSES CANCER!!!!
Holy crap!! Do you know the amounts of tar and other crap contained in a joint? Jeebus, you ARE a hypocrite!

Tanning is not only for vanity, read the rest of the freaking post. And acne can be permanent - for some people there is no effective treatment.

And who cares about vanity, anyway? I'd rather look hot than ugly, and anyone who says that they don't care about appearance is a LIAR (unless they are blind).

dude... "who cares about vanity,anyway? i'd rather look hot"???

oh dear lord. OBVIOUSLY YOU care ALOT about vanity. i never said i didn't care how i look, but im not going to give myself skin cancer.. and dude.. if smoking weed causes cancer... then why do they give it to cancer patients?!

it causes chronic bronchitis and chronic asthma at its worst, please, find me ONE case, where someone got ANY kinda cancer JUST from smoking weed, no cigarettes or other such unhealthy things, just WEED. lets see it? im waiting...

[Ree Fresh]

Originally Posted by Ashes

hey look chicky.. did i say LIVE IN YOUR BASEMENT AND NEVER COME OUT TO SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY??

no, i am simply trying to make the point that continually over exposing your skin to UVA nad UVB rays is BAD for you because it contributes to skin cancer.

Does that make any SENSE or should I explain in further detail?

You seem very determind to point out that UVA and UVB rays are bad for you and give you cancer...

"not good for ur skin, because it GIVES YOU CANCER"
-Ashes

UVA does not jsut GIVE you cancer, it really depends on the person and how you expose your self to uv rays. Myself and others are trying to explain that its not ALL bad for you. Some is good, and even though for the past 10-20 years weve been over told how bad exposure is... recent studies are saying stop avoiding the rays and stop telling ppl to fear the sun! As I get that imprestion from you?

I just find your anti uva comments biast and ignorant.

WERD? MAD WERD!

[dapimpstress]

im not trying to say fake and bake is ALL bad... its FINE if it helps you with your acne... but it will NOT help your skin in the long run in the fucking point im TRYING to make here...

it will make u look CRUSTY and HELLA OLD faster than you normally would..

yes it has its good points>> helping ur acne, making it so u dont turn lobster if you go somewhere hella hot, evening out ur skin, whatever..

but it has HELLA bad points, >> cancer, WRINKLES!!! looking old hella b4 u should.. i dunno man

it just seems like something you WOULD NOT wanna do all year forever.. cuz dude i SEEN HELLA women that have been tanning since their teens, and dude, THEY DONT LOOK GOOD once they get to like 35... they're all wrinkly and gross... jus dont want all u cute girls ta end up like that... crusty ass brown wrinkly skin, bleached hair, hella makeup, you know the type.

WERD?? mad FUCKING werd.

[Ree Fresh]

Originally Posted by Ashes

im not trying to say fake and bake is ALL bad... its FINE if it helps you with your acne... but it will NOT help your skin in the long run in the fucking point im TRYING to make here...

it will make u look CRUSTY and HELLA OLD faster than you normally would..

yes it has its good points>> helping ur acne, making it so u dont turn lobster if you go somewhere hella hot, evening out ur skin, whatever..

but it has HELLA bad points, >> cancer, WRINKLES!!! looking old hella b4 u should.. i dunno man

it just seems like something you WOULD NOT wanna do all year forever.. cuz dude i SEEN HELLA women that have been tanning since their teens, and dude, THEY DONT LOOK GOOD once they get to like 35... they're all wrinkly and gross... jus dont want all u cute girls ta end up like that... crusty ass brown wrinkly skin, bleached hair, hella makeup, you know the type.

WERD?? mad FUCKING werd.

:)


We cool yo chicky?
Than we cool yo chicky!!!

[dapimpstress]

Originally Posted by wellbelove's

:)


We cool yo chicky?
Than we cool yo chicky!!!

check ur karm *wink*

[galaxie]

Originally Posted by Ashes

it causes chronic bronchitis and chronic asthma at its worst, please, find me ONE case, where someone got ANY kinda cancer JUST from smoking weed, no cigarettes or other such unhealthy things, just WEED. lets see it? im waiting...

You just HAD to challenge me, didn't you?
Enjoy your reading!

http://www.slam.ca/HealthNews/980818_cancer.html
http://www.sarnia.com/groups/antidru.../cncrlink.html
http://www.bdtzone.com/news_details....id=51&index=26

Are those three enough for you?
Obviously pro-marijuana sites are going to say that it's good and OK for you. I remember reading pro-drug sites when I was 15/16 that also said crystal meth wasn't damaging and cocaine wasn't addicitve. If you believe that shit, you're an idiot.

My point about vanity was that everyone is vain to a certain extent, so why discuss it?