Adopting pets

[impure]

Originally Posted by lou_belle

As far as judging a person on their ability to be a parent to an animal...I think its fair to say that someone that can't wake up at eight to take their dog for a run before they go out of the house isn't suited to be an owner. Dogs usually wake up ate around seven and if no one is up they fall back asleep. If they see their parents leave the house without taking them they get depressed if they haven't had a run. There is such thing as a depressed dog;P

the puggies here sleep almost all day, they wake up when you come into the family room (where they sleep) and you can put them outside, but otherwise they just pass out on the couch until my bf's mom gets home. that's when the pug partying starts.
as for depressed dogs, i understand that dogs are capable of feelings, my last dog suffered from severe seperation anxiety, lucky for me i could bring him to work as i helped him work out his issues.

[wum]

chows > pugs

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by wum

chows > pugs

:( :( :(

[stabmyhead]

Originally Posted by impure

yeah, my bf has two pugs, peachy and harley.
harley is very VERY sick right now, he keeps having strange episodes of extreme internal pain and despite all the vets and specialists and tests they are still not sure what's wrong.
they suspect cushings disease but the symptoms i see don't suggest cushings to me.
i feel horrible for him, he was yelping a few times it hurt so much today. and he can't keep anything down, he vomits everything up, even his meds.

How long has this been going on for? My dog did this for a day or two a while ago because he ate something bad from the garbage can. He threw up everything he ate as well. In fact, his piles of vomit were as big as him! Does Harley have an appetite at all? Best to just keep his food intake to something very neutral like rice...

There is a vet in Surrey, Newton Animal hospital and they see/treat about 3000 pugs! Ask to see Dr. Douglas or Dr Barkasey. They specialize in the breed and come highly recommended by a lot of pug owners.

I hope he gets better though.. btw those are cute names, my pug's name is Tofu. Him and Peachy can start a supermarket together with this pug I know named Pepsi. :P

On an unrelated note: DOGS DO ADAPT TO YOUR LIFESTYLE. Most pugs I see are calm, laid back and very mellow. Tofu is a bit of a psychopath, hyper, rowdy and a bit more muscular. He acts that way because we rough house with him and he doesn't sit around as a lap dog - which they are known as.

It was rough at first when we first brought him back, but since then he has adjusted to our (my bf and I's) schedule. He stays up as long as we're up, sleeps when I go to school, and wakes up when we do in the morning - he adapts to our lifestyle. I don't think I'm a bad parent because I don't have a strict schedule set out or because I don't take Tofu out for massive walks at 6 am - he only need 15 minutes a day because of his size and the mild hip dysphasia he has.

[lou_belle]

To clear it up a bit, LARGE BREED dogs shouldn't be expected to suit a lifestyle with no place to run if the owner can't provide a regular schedule that includes lots of excercise in the morning when dogs are most anxious..

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by lou_belle

Chill out...I didn't judge anyone..

As far as judging a person on their ability to be a parent to an animal...I think its fair to say that someone that can't wake up at eight to take their dog for a run before they go out of the house isn't suited to be an owner. Dogs usually wake up ate around seven and if no one is up they fall back asleep. If they see their parents leave the house without taking them they get depressed if they haven't had a run. There is such thing as a depressed dog;P

uh ok...
So you are saying only people that work near typical 9-5 jobs can own a dog. I don't disagree that there are a large number or irresponsible pet owners out there, but I think you are narrow minded in your opinions. Not being able to admit that dogs can adapt to a different lifestyle (as long as it's regular) is an insult to their intelligence.
Your dog is probably anxious in the morning because she is used to going out in the morning - go figure!

[impure]

harley has been having these "episodes" for over a week now, we rushed him to emerg as soon as we saw his first one.they suspect it to be cushings disease now, not pancreatis or some spinal problem as originaly suspected. if cushings in dogs is at all similar to cushings in horses (i'm not sure if it is but they could share some warning signs such as retaining hair coats) then harley hasn't shown any of the signs i've been trained to look for in horses (i've dealt with several horses with cushings)
other than that the vets are at a loss.
$3,000 + in vet bills already and yet they come back empty handed. it pisses me off.
the only thing they DO know is that there's a mass in him but they are not sure what it is.
he's only had one mild and one medium episode in the past 24 hours, i feel so bad not being able to help him. he just suddenly starts panting hard, closing his eyes or bugging them out, won't lie down, his legs slide out from under him, and he shakes. when it's really bad he will yelp. he also scrunches up one side of his body like he's having a muscle spasm, and he will pace back and forth or walk in circles.
he's very obviously in extreme internal distress and pain.
but the vets haven't seen an episode, so now we video taped him during one.
i hope for poor harleys sake this all resolves it's self soon.
i think they took him to see what the vet clinic called "an internalist" today to see if he could shed more light on the situation.

oh, harley is RAVENOUS, he LIVES for food.
even when he was vomiting everything up, his appetite was big, but we wouldn't feed him too much because he just became distressed and vomited.
they have some special diet for the puggies usualy but now the vet gave him a speical gastro soft food that peachy tries to steal. (my bf's mom who is harleys most favorite person ever, heats it up a TINY bit and adds a TINY bit of water to make him a yummy mash, and she puts a little on peachys dinner as a treat)

i'll pass on the vet recommendations, Thanks!

[impure]

Originally Posted by lou_belle

To clear it up a bit, LARGE BREED dogs shouldn't be expected to suit a lifestyle with no place to run if the owner can't provide a regular schedule that includes lots of excercise in the morning when dogs are most anxious..

you're quite the expert on blanket statements aren't you?

[lou_belle]

yeah...to me that just seems obvious*
unless your into saving legless old dogs, they like to excercise~

[Roxxy Rollin]

impure.... have you researched any stuff on the net? *UNIVERSITY OF GOOGLE* I'm sure you could probably find some forums where you can get feedback on any questions you have regarding your dog.... Sometimes vets and or doctors don't know sh*t... so it might be better for you to try and find out for yourself.... There is tons of info on the net.. just keep searching and I bet you'll come across other people having the same problems with their pets.... Good luck if you haven't already tried... and good luck to your doggy.

Roxxy

[miss.myra]

impure, can you post pics of your puggies?

[impure]

they're on the desktop in the living room, we're anticipating a crash on that one so we backed them up on an external hard drive.
i'll have them up here as soon as i can.

[impure]

Originally Posted by lou_belle

yeah...to me that just seems obvious*
unless your into saving legless old dogs, they like to excercise~

do you understand half of what i say?

[sinnerman]

Originally Posted by miss.myra

impure, can you post pics of your puggies?

Harley (top) from Montreal and Peachy from Las Vegas.

[acidic_liquid]

I like how Peachy's hiding. Awwwwwww.

Those are nice jeans.

[lildonkey]

you're friend is a pussy, tell him the dog that suits him is a chihuaha

[wum]

those dogs are pugly

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by sinnerman

Harley (top) from Montreal and Peachy from Las Vegas.

can i maybe hug them sometime?

[sinnerman]

Originally Posted by acidic_liquid

I like how Peachy's hiding. Awwwwwww.

Those are nice jeans.

THEY'RE MY FAVOURITE JEANS!

[impure]

Originally Posted by lildonkey

you're friend is a pussy, tell him the dog that suits him is a chihuaha

funny thing is this friend of mine is that guy who was in ministry, the guy who wrote Jesus Built My Hotrod i believe. he's like 6'5 and close to 300lbs, not a little guy. he was like the dark lord of industrial, but you wouldn't know it to talk to him. he now wears hawaiian print tshirts and kahki shorts.
and he wants a toy dog.

[impure]

Originally Posted by miss.myra

can i maybe hug them sometime?

yes, we took peachy for a walk in stanley park the other day while harles was in the ER.
she loved it.
when harley is better we'll take them for a walk or something and you can do all the pug huggin' you want!

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by LDUB

uh ok...
So you are saying only people that work near typical 9-5 jobs can own a dog. I don't disagree that there are a large number or irresponsible pet owners out there, but I think you are narrow minded in your opinions. Not being able to admit that dogs can adapt to a different lifestyle (as long as it's regular) is an insult to their intelligence.
Your dog is probably anxious in the morning because she is used to going out in the morning - go figure!

I didn't say that a person that works a typical nine to five job is the only type of person that can own a dog. I said that a person should make their lives suit their pet, not the other way around. That's just a selfish ignorant way to look at getting a child of any kind. When you adopt a dog, you have to care for it like any other being. They can't ask you a billion times to go out, eventually yes they'll be suiting your lifestyle but just because your dog can't say anything to you doesn't mean that he's happy.

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by lou_belle

I said that a person should make their lives suit their pet, not the other way around.

No you didn't, you said people who can't wake up early to walk they're dogs before they leave the house are bad pet owners.

Just because you get up every morning and walk your dog doesn't mean that she's happy either. My point is that what works for you does not necessarily work for everyone else and by telling everyone else that the are wrong or horrible pet owners is just plain stupid. I agree that sacrifices should be made to tend to you pet, however even a human child must adjust to their parents life style - not everyone can get perfect hours at work to match the school schedule.

Not everyone lives the perfect pet owner life but that doesn't mean they don't have the capacity to love and care for that pet to the fullest. A loving home isn't just early morning walks.

[lou_belle]

Originally Posted by LDUB

No you didn't, you said people who can't wake up early to walk they're dogs before they leave the house are bad pet owners.

Just because you get up every morning and walk your dog doesn't mean that she's happy either. My point is that what works for you does not necessarily work for everyone else and by telling everyone else that the are wrong or horrible pet owners is just plain stupid. I agree that sacrifices should be made to tend to you pet, however even a human child must adjust to their parents life style - not everyone can get perfect hours at work to match the school schedule.

Not everyone lives the perfect pet owner life but that doesn't mean they don't have the capacity to love and care for that pet to the fullest. A loving home isn't just early morning walks.

Oh please...would you stop arguing that bad pet owners are good too? You sound ridiculous...thats saying that LOVe and care make up for inexcusable imprisonment. How do you expect a dog to understand that your LOVe means more to him than a good run. Your disabled child can suit your lifestyle because that what YOU choose. You also should never eat dinner before feeding your dog, not because he wants it that way...but because it's belittling to an animal that knows hes hungry, but can't speak for himself. It's cruel to let a dog be hungry while you eat. Just like its cruel to leave to get things you need to get done before getting the most important thing done...walking your dog. I don't give a shit if a person can LOVe their dog to pieces if they can't even get their ass up an hour earlier to make sure their pet feels good all day lounging waiting to see you after work.

people who can't wake up early to walk they're dogs before they leave the house are bad pet owners..there I said it again..*pfft lazy fuckin self-righteous people who think leaving a dog for a whole day without a walk in the morning is ok...I fuckin' want to SAVE dogs from people like that and show them what REAL love is. It's running having fun and chillin' on the beach in no rush for sunrise~ THAT'S LOVE...
not kissing them goodbye as you're running out the door, while they squeeze their ass-cheeks

[LDUB]

Did you ever stop to consider that the situation I was referring to may have been PEOPLE THAT WORK AFTERNOONS OR NIGHTS? In you original view, these people would be bad pet owners because they don't wake up at the crack of dawn to walk their dog. My roommate had a dog that wouldn't move his ass in the morning and I would have to drag him around the block, was he a bad pet? As well, I like how you amended this to before they leave the house, compared to early morning - at least you're kind of getting my point.
I should have been more specific with my loving home theme, I was more leaning towards the elderly and disabled. Those who may not be able to provide exactly what you have illustrated above. Are they burdened with not every being allowed to have a pet in you opinion?
I so glad that you know exactly what animals think is belittling and what they are thinking at all times... there could be a lucrative career for you in hollywood.
Like every living creature, dogs all have their own personality, preferences, likes, dislikes. Just because you believe you are a great pet owner (granted you probably are) doesn't mean that all great pet owners do exactly as you do.