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Old Mar 31, 05
 
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dude. what the FUCK do ANY of US have to do with this?

why is the ENTIRE planet reeling over this one braindead womans death?

do you think she even knew she was starving?

seriously. its none OF OUR FUCKING BUSINESS. she died. tragedy. death is always as such due to the ideas of it that have been formed by our modern societies.

why dont we just show a little respect and not argue over something which has OBVIOUSLY been argued over ENOUGH?
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Old Mar 31, 05
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So what is Michael Shiavo gonna do now? go after the pope and take his feeding tube and oxygen tube out...
that's just a lame accusation. the pope needs to be left out of this since it's a completely different situation. yes, they like to mention the two together because OMG TOTAL SIMILARITIES@!#% THEY BOTH INVOLVE FEEDING TUBES@#%! there are plenty of situations that involve feeding tubes that no one is mentioning.

so unless the pope was bulimic, and ended up in the same state that terry schiavo did, the two situations are completely unrelated.

(ps - you don't know whether or not she was in pain or how she felt. just because most people would've felt pain from being starved/dehydrated, doesn't necessarily mean she did. doesn't mean she understood what was happening either. of course, you can't speak for her unless you've been in her situation.)
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Old Mar 31, 05
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dude. what the FUCK do ANY of US have to do with this?

why is the ENTIRE planet reeling over this one braindead womans death?

do you think she even knew she was starving?

seriously. its none OF OUR FUCKING BUSINESS. she died. tragedy. death is always as such due to the ideas of it that have been formed by our modern societies.

why dont we just show a little respect and not argue over something which has OBVIOUSLY been argued over ENOUGH?

but that's just the thing, it became our business when they publicized it so heavily.
I dont agree neccisarily with huge amounts of media attention that this all brought, to be honest I was really quite disgusted with it.
I just wanted to pick people's brains a little on something other than "who's the hawtest fnker", "what type of drugs do you like to do at raves", and "does this make me look fat??"
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I understand your need for substance lovely. Really I do. It's just rough when I've seen it on the MSN news page everyday for the last 2 weeks.
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Old Mar 31, 05
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^ understood
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Old Mar 31, 05
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This is why I believe her husband was the right one on this...
when teri was alive she told both her husband and her brother in law that if she ever became a vegetable she wouldn't want to be kept alive...it was HER wishes...obviously her parents have some rights but the fact she said this makes me 100% sure what happened with the removal of the tube was the right thing to do.
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Old Mar 31, 05
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She told her husband that if she was to be in a vegetated state that she did not want to be kept alive. He's her husban, and he did what his wife had asked him to do befro she became ill. I think he did the right thing. I know if I was in her situation, I wouldn't want to be kept alive. I would rather have my family actually lose me then have me there but not there because, I couldn't think or do ANYTHING.
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I think what bothers me is that they have no problem giving a serial killer a quick, easy death...
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Old Mar 31, 05
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If she can't feel pain, why was she loaded on morphine

http://www.kasa.com/Global/story.asp?S=3145889
Regardless of whether she was concious of it, her body probably was in pain. Pain (like fear) is a primordial response to certain stimuli.

Just because her BODY felt pain doesn't mean that SHE did.

But unfortunately, you're too far up your moral-superiority high horse to actually realize the distiction between the 2.

PS -+> Pls don't try responding with something trite like "if a tree falls in the forest and there's no one there to hear it...".

Thx.
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Old Mar 31, 05
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i think it's pretty cut and dried.
nothing is EVER that black and white.
there's always a shade of grey to consider.
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^ (edit for missbehavior) who said she couldn't feel pain? I've yet to hear an unambigious statement that actually said so. And even though you had doctors saying death by starvation and dehydration is 'peaceful', that's only the case in the last moments before she slips into a coma.
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Old Mar 31, 05
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This is why I believe her husband was the right one on this...
when teri was alive she told both her husband and her brother in law that if she ever became a vegetable she wouldn't want to be kept alive...it was HER wishes...obviously her parents have some rights but the fact she said this makes me 100% sure what happened with the removal of the tube was the right thing to do.
now, this being said.
does anyone here think that this is what she had in mind when she said that?
i highly doubt she thought she would be starved.
i'm sure she thought, DNR.
or pull the plug, BAM, almost instant death.
not this media circus and starvation.
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Old Mar 31, 05
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about the husband...

Terri Schiavo Dies, Michael Schiavo Prevents "Begging Parents" From Seeing Her Last Moments
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O'Donnell, one of the family's spiritual advisers, said that her parents and siblings were "begging to be at her bedside...but are being denied."
Michael Schiavo was Terri's guardian and controlled who may visit her and when.


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Old Mar 31, 05
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who gives a flying fuck about michael schiavo?
come on, she's dead now.
let her rest in peace.
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who gives a flying fuck about michael schiavo?
come on, she's dead now.
let her rest in peace.
it negates the whole argument that he was looking out for her best interests
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Old Mar 31, 05
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I doubt it, but I hope this will show more focus on the ludicracies of the american bureaucracy.

it's just outrageous how morally incorrect things can be when you try to make everything politically correct.
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Old Mar 31, 05
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If I was in that state of conciousness, I'd want the plug pulled.
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Old Mar 31, 05
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it negates the whole argument that he was looking out for her best interests
but why?
what diffrence does it make now?
let it rest.
is there no dignity to be found even in death?
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Old Mar 31, 05
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For the record if I'm ever being kept 'alive' by a bunch of machines and am brain dead PLEASE pull the plug. And don't ever let it turn into a circus!
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but why?
what diffrence does it make now?
let it rest.
is there no dignity to be found even in death?
you'd make a great homocide investigator.

"motive schmotive!"
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Old Mar 31, 05
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Instead of the arguments how about a prayer for her and her family?

God bless Terry Schiavo
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Old Mar 31, 05
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you'd make a great homocide investigator.

"motive schmotive!"
i have found a new direction to take my life.

are they placing any charges?
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Old Mar 31, 05
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Perhaps Michael wanted her last moments to be spent in quiet and peace, instead of the incessant arguing that would have probably taken place had he let her parents in the room.
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Old Mar 31, 05
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What's your take on it?
I'm bloody glad. I've had to watch the same crap on the news for over a month. If the crap has a developing story, then I guess its more acceptable. But nothing happened. The only major event was the removing of the tube.

"Well Jim, she hasn't died yet, and her parents have not had any luck in any of their legal battles. So essentially no new developments again in this case. Now back to you in the news room."
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