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Old Jun 09, 05
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question for the ladies

Warning: This is a personal question and may be controversial to some. The reason I have directed it more towards the women, is because we have the baby-makers and all in all, we make the executive decision if we get a ' bun in the oven'.

( NOTE : I am not pregnant nor do I plan to have children anytime soon. I am 21 )

I am purely interested in your opinion on personal choice. ( Men too )

Were all going to come to a certain point in our lives, maybe it will be 18 ( hopefully not ), maybe 23, maybe 28, maybe 35...where we'll come to a fork in the road.

One way goes to being persistant in achieving your personal goals, staying true to your dreams and settling for nothing less than the lifestyle and career you always envisioned yourself living. This can be done single or with the support of a significant other, if you find the right person. But harder if you do the following..

The other is getting knocked up ( meant in the happiest, family-oriented way possible ) Don't get me wrong; some people are meant to just be fabulous parents !! And it is actually quite the achievement if you think about it. If you can hit the 2.5 quota; you've made it under government standards. JK. By all means, I have seen some amazing women juggle children, marriage, friendships, career and last but not least, themselves.

So which way do YOU THINK you are going to go?
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Old Jun 09, 05
 
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i choose achieving my dreams.
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me too;)
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Old Jun 09, 05
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... you're asking if they/we want children? i was expecting an abortion question, but unless it's very well-veiled i guess that's not what you're asking.


there are lots of things i want to do with my life, that don't involve children. i want to live in several different cities scattered over several different continents, i want another degree (or two), i want to learn more languages, i want to travel all over, i want to have passionate love affairs, i want to live in gorgeous places and go to fantastic restaurants and live a fabulous lifestyle, i want to end up with a satisfying career... but i'm young. maybe by the time i'm 30 i'll have accomplished most of these things and will want babies. who knows. at this point.. no way in fucking hell.
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Old Jun 09, 05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ~ katem
Warning: This is a personal question and may be controversial to some. The reason I have directed it more towards the women, is because we have the baby-makers and all in all, we make the executive decision if we get a ' bun in the oven'.

( NOTE : I am not pregnant nor do I plan to have children anytime soon. I am 21 )

I am purely interested in your opinion on personal choice. ( Men too )

Were all going to come to a certain point in our lives, maybe it will be 18 ( hopefully not ), maybe 23, maybe 28, maybe 35...where we'll come to a fork in the road.

One way goes to being persistant in achieving your personal goals, staying true to your dreams and settling for nothing less than the lifestyle and career you always envisioned yourself living. This can be done single or with the support of a significant other, if you find the right person. But harder if you do the following..

The other is getting knocked up ( meant in the happiest, family-oriented way possible ) Don't get me wrong; some people are meant to just be fabulous parents !! And it is actually quite the achievement if you think about it. If you can hit the 2.5 quota; you've made it under government standards. JK. By all means, I have seen some amazing women juggle children, marriage, friendships, career and last but not least, themselves.



So which way do YOU THINK you are going to go?

well ... myself being older ... I think I have already started my road called life ... I think also to each thier own ... raising children alone is hard .. and nobody knows what path in life they will take no matter how much u plan something can always block a path ... so u will never get a straight answer to this question :)
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Old Jun 09, 05
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personal gain is nothing without a legacy
we all want to be remembered, lest our existance dies with the friends that grow old around us
they don't build museums for middle managers, they don't sculpt statues of accountants, there are no streets named after the reaonably priced, honest auto mechanic
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Old Jun 09, 05
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legacy always struck me as a selfish reason for wanting children.
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Old Jun 09, 05
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yeah thanks for that, i was being selfish ms. 'my dreams include only i statements'
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legacy always struck me as a selfish reason for wanting children.
I concur.
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Old Jun 09, 05
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I agree ...
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yeah it didn't sound like he was comparing children to personal gain but rather the other option and his idea of it
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Old Jun 09, 05
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Yeah but when you come from a long history of success and influence there is pressure not only to succeed but to continue the family line. Plus, I would think it is more likely for people who foster some form of resentment towards the family unit to claim not to want children.

Long philosophical debates would arise if we talked about the meaning of life, but anyone that has loved, or been loved, knows that success is better shared. What good is an empire to the lonely emporer? Look at Kim Jong Il. That role has been filled in legacy and lore countless times before and we all know how it turns out.
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Old Jun 09, 05
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i think the greatest experience in the world would to be to give life and raise someone, as the greatest gift i have ever recieved was life and a sense of self from my parents.

i could never repay them, all i can do is pass it on what i have learned to a child myself. what is the point of me doing anything great if i can not share it with people close to me, and also share in their triumphs? what greater triumph is seeing a kid learn to walk or read or ride a bike after a week of trying?

it's not a 'hey sup this is rawb jr' thing.
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rawb :

would you have the same attitude nine months from now if you had to? :)

Last edited by ~ katem; Jun 09, 05 at 01:47 PM.
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Unless you are pregnant and trying (key word here) to be cleverly subversive, that's not the question at all.
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Old Jun 09, 05
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BOTH.

I have dreams, goals and aspirations regarding my business career, but alongside those dreams ride my dreams of a family. I've wanted a family for as long as I can remember, and if it means that I have to sacrifice some of my career for a portion of time (say, before my kids are in full-time school) then so be it.
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"Unless you are pregnant and trying (key word here) to be cleverly subversive, that's not the question at all."





PAT : go knock up your gf and carry on your family tree.
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but the question is..

would you be ready to do that 9 months from now? :)
well i think a relatively miniscule part of the under 25 population would say 'HOLY CRAP I NEED A BABY ASAP' so you're preaching to the choir on that one.
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Old Jun 09, 05
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Kate then the real question becomes: I wonder if I should put bananas on my toast?

p.s. why does my sh.t flash "new" i signed on almost 4 years ago. THAT is the other big question. geek.
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well i think a relatively miniscule part of the under 25 population would say 'HOLY CRAP I NEED A BABY ASAP' so you're preaching to the choir on that one.


hahaha
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Kate then the real question becomes: I wonder if I should put bananas on my toast?


no but you should put your banana in her buns
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Old Jun 09, 05
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Having kids isnt such a life changing experience, child support in this province is like the price of a cup of coffee a day.

Add in dropping in once every few year's to drop off one of these cheap ass bikes from walmart on there birthday and viola.
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Old Jun 09, 05
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and the best part is i don't gotta get hella fat and cranky, i can just play xbox
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Having kids isnt such a life changing experience, child support in this province is like the price of a cup of coffee a day.

Add in dropping in once every few year's to drop off one of these cheap ass bikes from walmart on there birthday and viola.


if you actually believe something like that then you will happily be the first one to smoke with baby's new crack pipe



and rawb: I hope your fat cranky wife steals your xbox and bitches at you until you are shaking in the corner:)
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Old Jun 09, 05
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"Thank God you're not pregnant Lois, we wouldn't want to have to go through that again"

*Lois violently throwing up in the bathroom while Peter turns up the theme song to Three's Company*
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