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Old Jul 19, 05
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i was just taking out the rhyme scheme, not the whole verse
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so to summarize for goodflow:

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lets look at rap skill for a second.

i could pick out many many songs he tears apart, but lets take monkey see monkey do for example.. he raps a 2 minute verse, rhyming "Aye" and "uh" like syllables

ending with hate guts, say much, paintbrush, brain does, plain nuts, dangerous, stakes up , takes nuts, eight trucks, may just, aint tough, gangstas, aint drugs, etc etc etc.. there's VERY few rappers who can come remotely close to puttin verses together like that .. there are a few rappers out there who are simply in a diff category of skill and talent.. it has nothing to do with opinion !
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I'm not sure that was the best example considering those arent complete sentences?
now read the first quote again.


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Old Jul 19, 05
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lets look at rap skill for a second.

i could pick out many many songs he tears apart, but lets take monkey see monkey do for example.. he raps a 2 minute verse, rhyming "Aye" and "uh" like syllables

ending with hate guts, say much, paintbrush, brain does, plain nuts, dangerous, stakes up , takes nuts, eight trucks, may just, aint tough, gangstas, aint drugs, etc etc etc.. there's VERY few rappers who can come remotely close to puttin verses together like that .. there are a few rappers out there who are simply in a diff category of skill and talent.. it has nothing to do with opinion !
so what are you trying to say? he's good at rapping, but sucks at putting out albums? he can rhyme, but his content is pretty weak most of the time. it's kind of a thin line, and one you shouldn't worry about. so what if some people think eminem sucks? that's their business, you don't need to convince them otherwise.
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Old Jul 19, 05
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lets look at rap skill for a second.

i could pick out many many songs he tears apart, but lets take monkey see monkey do for example.. he raps a 2 minute verse, rhyming "Aye" and "uh" like syllables

ending with hate guts, say much, paintbrush, brain does, plain nuts, dangerous, stakes up , takes nuts, eight trucks, may just, aint tough, gangstas, aint drugs, etc etc etc.. there's VERY few rappers who can come remotely close to puttin verses together like that .. there are a few rappers out there who are simply in a diff category of skill and talent.. it has nothing to do with opinion !
it has everything to do with opinion. your opinion is that those rhymes are good rhymes...someone else may think they're not clever. you're trying to say that other people can have opinions, but if they're different from your opinions then they're wrong. art is all about opinion, dude. even what i think is the shittiest piece of art someone could think was inspiring and wonderful...it doesn't mean either one is right. that's the great thing about art!

and ultimately, who cares if someone else thinks that eminem isn't talented? it doesn't change that YOU think he is...and you'll never convince the other person that their opinion is wrong, just like they'll never convince you. debating about the quality of art usually gets you nowhere fast.
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Old Jul 19, 05
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t doesnt take much
for me to raise such a stink up
when motherfuckers hate your guts
you aint even gotta say much
for me to put a pen to a blank sheet of papers
like smearing blood stains with a paint brush
i cant explain what it is my brain does
but however it works its insane
its plain nutz
and it aint just my brain thas dangerous
its a whole combination of things
it takes nutz
and im not afriad to raise the stakes up
i got a million bucks in the banks and 8 trucks
for anybody who gets on the track and spanks us
im patiently waiting for the day
im anxious
to see the look on ya fake mugs
when you thugs go bankrupt
ya drunk
ya aint tough
whatever you drank musta just turned ya into some gangstas
this is me talking motherfucker
this aint drugs
you wanna pop, shit wake-up, then make-up
FUCK THAT
its too late chump now face up
i pray for the day that someone who spits with the calliber that nas and jay does
opens up his jaw to say something or rattle my name off
or rattle the first thing from the top of his brain off
so i can blow the fuckin dust off of this chainsaw
and give him the surgery that he came for
till i pull the paint off
i never been shot
but i think me and 50 musta been cut from the same cloth
cause ive always came off
like ja's chain
when they try to rush him and lost
and came back and gave him a watch in exchange for it
i dont stop
the only thing i wait for
is day that i dont gotta report to probate court
cause ima give ya all the reason to hate more
cause ive been holding my tounge till i got a sprained jaw
alot of rappers on my list that just aint ja
and ima read that motherfucker off from april
you pussies think i went soft since 8 mile
when i come back ill be shootin more than just paint balls

thats the verse i was talking about
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Old Jul 19, 05
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i don't care about peoples opinions about him, but sidekick you still don't know the difference between fact and opinion. rapping is sorta like snowboarding, JP walker has immense skills on a snowboard, that's a fact. thats not opinion. the same thing applies for rappers.
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Old Jul 19, 05
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I'm not sure that was the best example considering those arent complete sentences?
ohhh gotta bring in the book reading and word thinking cuz you can't defend against? goodflow makes a strong argument against you, I agree with him.
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i don't care about peoples opinions about him, but sidekick you still don't know the difference between fact and opinion. rapping is sorta like snowboarding, JP walker has immense skills on a snowboard, that's a fact. thats not opinion. the same thing applies for rappers.
im pretty such kicks knows the difference, he's a smrt fucker. however! I don't believe he is well versed in 80's, 90's or current hiphop. so he would be arguing for equality of opinions for all, not against if it's actually good or bad. (atleast I think so, you fuckers post so fast)
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Old Jul 19, 05
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a lot of people have opinions - it's just that a lot of people's opinions are incorrect and uninformed
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Personaly, opinion comes down to individual taste, not mass appeal.
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Old Jul 19, 05
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His story has been told over and over and over again, and we are sick of hearing it.

His immaturity isnt making the news anymore, and he has already taken enough stabs at other singers/actors and quite frankly his audience is finding it borring now.

No doubt Em is extremely talented as an mcee but his production wouldnt have gone anywhere without the help of dr dre.

I knew Encore would be his last cd just by listening to it.
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Old Jul 19, 05
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well no shit .

i don't care if somebody doesn't like his music.. i just have a problem with people who think hes stupid and he sucks when hes actually insanely talented
im sure when people are refering to him as being 'stupid' or 'sucking' its because of the way he presents himself.
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Old Jul 19, 05
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His story has been told over and over and over again, and we are sick of hearing it.

His immaturity isnt making the news anymore, and he has already taken enough stabs at other singers/actors and quite frankly his audience is finding it borring now.

No doubt Em is extremely talented as an mcee but his production wouldnt have gone anywhere without the help of dr dre.

I knew Encore would be his last cd just by listening to it.
hey well said !!
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Old Jul 19, 05
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Old Jul 19, 05
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Exactly, he's burntout of material and success. Concentrating on producing would be a wise move. Get out before he further damages his image by throwing out another crappy LP. Just no more circus beats, plz.
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Old Jul 19, 05
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http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=55559


Rap star Eminem feels burned out by his success and will probably make his final concert appearance in Ireland on September 17, associates told a US newspaper on Friday.

The sources said his latest album "Encore" was also likely to be his last before Eminem starts a new career as a music producer, the Detroit Free Press newspaper reported
this is old news...
i knew even b4 he put out "encore" that it would be his last album
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this is old news...
i knew even b4 he put out "encore" that it would be his last album
So true.

After he made 8 Mile and totally exposed himself and explained his whole life, I knew his next disc he put out wouldnt do so well.

The whole unique thing most people liked about him was he came from nothing and made something out of himself, and because of his past. Well wehn its all exposed, and their isnt anything new to tell, people move on.
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both eminem and 50 have something in common


way better back in the day...before dre
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Old Jul 19, 05
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i don't think anyone realizes how insanely talented eminem is at rapping over the years. have you heard his 100s of freestyles? his old stuff? old battles? hes a genious its plain and simple. hes also a very talented beat maker. everyone just listens to a garbage mainstream song of his here and there and think they know what he's like?? it kinda sucks that his crappy songs seem to make it to mainstream, but the good ones are generally too explicit and whatnot
if you had half a brain youd realize i was talking about his talent as a producer, not his talent as an mc. dumbass.
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i dont really like much of the stuff he did after the slim shady lp. his style was way more storytelling back then, not so much banananafofana bo binnibinnibobanna crap.

though i personally like his funny tracks, what i dont like are all those gay ones that dont flow, and try to sound menacing and crap. not working. stick with the funny white boy routine, you dont scare me.
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Old Jul 19, 05
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if you had half a brain youd realize i was talking about his talent as a producer, not his talent as an mc. dumbass.
and if you had half a brain you'd realize you couldn't throw those beats together in 5 minutes with reason! in fact he uses a lot of real instruments and samples, with synth/comps , and hes very good /unique at doing it

or maybe you can host one of your beats and u'll be the next eminem?
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Old Jul 19, 05
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i dont really like much of the stuff he did after the slim shady lp. his style was way more storytelling back then, not so much banananafofana bo binnibinnibobanna crap.

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let me guess the only Em songs you listen to are on the radio and muchmusic ..?
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Old Jul 19, 05
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oh, so were arguing semantics now? fuckin christ, fine, i couldnt put those beats together in five minutes, but what im saying is that they suck, regardless of how much time he put into them. just leave it alone, your not gona change my mind
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