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Old Dec 10, 05
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Shit man.. you really don't have to constantly sling insults. It really doesn't help you or your arguements at all IMO it does the exact opposite.
i dont even really have an argument in this thread? I was enquiring about how some yall felt about supporting strong female leadership which is sometimes so low its non-existant.


Have an opinion? Then share it for fucks sake instead of trying to play referee
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Old Dec 10, 05
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hence why you should stick with what youre good at, glowsticks, and 12 year olds(boy or girl, you aint picky right?)

stupid fuck
wow, i hope you didn't burst a blood vessel trying to think up that zinger.
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wow, i hope you didn't burst a blood vessel trying to think up that zinger.
next thing your going to write is "fable, your so this and your so that, and your so wank wank wank"

dude if you dont have anything to contribute to the thread then fuck off, its that easy.
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Old Dec 10, 05
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^^^^

man, this kid is dumb as a motherfucker.
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next thing your going to write is "fable, your so this and your so that, and your so wank wank wank"

dude if you dont have anything to contribute to the thread then fuck off, its that easy.
but it's so much more fun for me this way.

edit: how can you still not understand how this works?

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Finland has the least corrupt Gov't in the world.

They are the first country in the world to have a female president.

So there is some proof to Fable's theory.

Unfortunately the world is run by Secret Societies of Brotherhoods.

Always has been and always will be.


actually there have been a number of female heads of state throuhg out the ages, queen elizabeth and victoria in england, are just two examples but their have been many heads of states long before finland's example.

http://womenshistory.about.com/od/rulers/

in fact, finland only had a female head of state since 2000, canada even had a female head of state 7 years before. we can look at india which is considered one of the most corrupt democratic countries in the world and Indira Ghandi was their head of state for a cumulative total of 15 years starting in the 1960s. Yet they remain extremely corrupt, this is just clearly illustrates that corruption has little to do with the gender of the person running the country nor their political ideology. Rather levles of precieved corruption has more to do with the quality, strength, transperancy, precieved legitimacy and fairness of their legal systems and the other social/political institutions which compose their government.

http://ww1.transparency.org/cpi/2004/cpi2004.en.html

it is no coincidence that the countries with the least corruption are all rich CAPITALIST democracies. for all its flaws capitalism has the unique benefit of providing as well as creating the necessity for strengthened legal and civil rights, accountabilty and transperancy in government. corruption impedes capitalism, and as capitalism progresses it reinforces the need for flexibilty and transperancy on the aprt of the government.

if you wouldn't mind reading the works of sociologists/phiolosphers like joseph steiglitz, george soros, T.H marshall an shit, they talk at length about this shit without being wierdo conservatives in any way.

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Old Dec 11, 05
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i personally belive we wouldnt have half the corruption/exploitation and manipulation on the planet as we do now. Mothers raises us all individually, why the fuck couldnt they raise a population?

of course we have to make sure that our collective presidents leave policy making alone when they are rocking their periods. That could spell disaster for a lot of men.

But on a serious note-More women need to get involved in politics. More women need to get into leadership positions starting at the grass roots level. And more people in general need to support the women coming up that have managed to hold onto legitemacy, honesty and relevancy.

Im sure there are thousands of young angela davis' in the lower mainland alone, so speak the fuck up, and i promise you the support will be there.

think about it. if your of ethnic origin and female, and low income, you are singularely one of the most oppressed individuals on the planet.

Your voice needs to be heard.
Women need to get into alot more things... also ppl need to encurage them alot more as well. Its still a tough world out there for women and I think there still looked at second best compared to men in profetional feilds. Im sure thats why alot of women may try, but then give up.

Moslty I still see the majority of single parents taking care of children are women. Ive seen so many women (one being my mom) who began post secondary education, got married, and had kids before they finished. Either it's the women who stays home and takes care of the kids or if devoriced its the women who raises the kids during most of the week. How are women supose to get into politics when so many of them are stuck in this position???

PS: if women were in power... there would be ALOT more DRAMA!!! Although the women I work with in the schools are extreamly nice and caring... my dad tells me about the women at his office all the time and how cruel they are to each other.
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I dunno,

put into that situation i think women act just as callous as men. The great nurturing women you speak of generally would not choose that line of work. All the girls i know who are in the political science program and aiming towards posistions in government are very competative, hard working, and opinionated just like the men. I don't really see a difference. I mean, Condellezza Rice, need i say more? Today she just said that the US does not torture and follows the geneva conventions, is not perfect and thus might torture, and does not promise that it won't happen again. Holy contradictions and running in circles.

werd, dont hate the player hate the game, hehe j/k....it dosnt matter what the gender, race or sexual oreintation of a person is its pretty much a given that if they've achieved success in politics, business or any given field that they have certain personality traits and attitudes that all people who find success in that field also posses. Alot of people may begrude wealthy, successfull or powerfull (self made)people because of the wealth and power they have but the reality is that of they were in a similar position they probably wouldnt like the tasks associated with achieving on that level, much less be as competant. I can tell you myself i would never want to be a premier for any amount of money but especially for the 150k a year they make. the people who are successful in politics all have the same basic attitudes, desires, personalities and habits i doubt there would be a significant change in the way things are ran even if the political systemw as dominated by women.
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^^^^

man, this kid is dumb as a motherfucker.
why because i dont like "flame wars" or internet "duels" Go =back to your D+D bitch. Or perhaps you can contribute to the thread, that of course being dependant on the fact that you got over growing up getting shit kicked, outplayed, out foxed and generally tossed around by every girl youve ever met? And perhaps even now the sting of those embarassing moments almost match the sting of urnie staining your pants, because you never quite learned that whole process either?

So basically we have you, a whinning, flippant stupid asshole, whos only experience at manhood, was when he was fucking raped by his dad, or mom? Throwing in a little one line zinger, because the thread was above his head, and instead of just passing it buy, and heading straight to "what colour is your underwear ladies?" you decided chirp up? Keep em coming sport!

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^ if ive said it once ive said it a good 10 times
STFU!
why? You dont like the topic of the thread? Growing up as an 18 year old princess aint doing it for you anymore? Isnt there some girls you can ask about what colour there underwear is? heres an option why dont YOU go away?
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quite possibly i think sex has nothing to do with leadership abilities
sure each gender has their own little faults. males: aggression? females: pms? but either way a leader is a leader, just like people are people with their own faults. some people might criticize that statement by using specific examples from our society. but its more socially acceptable for a male to be involved in politics or business than a woman. times are changing though ladies and gents
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the people who are successful in politics all have the same basic attitudes, desires, personalities and habits i doubt there would be a significant change in the way things are ran even if the political systemw as dominated by women.
But that still doesnt erase the fact that political leadership roles are predominantly men, even today.

Please note, im talking about grassroots movements as well.
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quite possibly i think sex has nothing to do with leadership abilities
sure each gender has their own little faults. males: aggression? females: pms? but either way a leader is a leader, just like people are people with their own faults. some people might criticize that statement by using specific examples from our society. but its more socially acceptable for a male to be involved in politics or business than a woman. times are changing though ladies and gents
watchout :O

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okay so you pointed out the obvious, but you also hit on the fact that "times are changing"

how so? (besides the fact that some women are in key positions) How are things changing at the grassroots levels? In school? In play? etc etc
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actually there have been a number of female heads of state throuhg out the ages, queen elizabeth and victoria in england, are just two examples but their have been many heads of states long before finland's example.

http://womenshistory.about.com/od/rulers/

in fact, finland only had a female head of state since 2000, canada even had a female head of state 7 years before. we can look at india which is considered one of the most corrupt democratic countries in the world and Indira Ghandi was their head of state for a cumulative total of 15 years starting in the 1960s. Yet they remain extremely corrupt, this is just clearly illustrates that corruption has little to do with the gender of the person running the country nor their political ideology. Rather levles of precieved corruption has more to do with the quality, strength, transperancy, precieved legitimacy and fairness of their legal systems and the other social/political institutions which compose their government.

http://ww1.transparency.org/cpi/2004/cpi2004.en.html

it is no coincidence that the countries with the least corruption are all rich CAPITALIST democracies. for all its flaws capitalism has the unique benefit of providing as well as creating the necessity for strengthened legal and civil rights, accountabilty and transperancy in government. corruption impedes capitalism, and as capitalism progresses it reinforces the need for flexibilty and transperancy on the aprt of the government.

if you wouldn't mind reading the works of sociologists/phiolosphers like joseph steiglitz, george soros, T.H marshall an shit, they talk at length about this shit without being wierdo conservatives in any way.
Well shut ma mouth !

Thx for teh info tipster.
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it is no coincidence that the countries with the least corruption are all rich CAPITALIST democracies.
ohhhh right right!
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why? You dont like the topic of the thread? Growing up as an 18 year old princess aint doing it for you anymore? Isnt there some girls you can ask about what colour there underwear is? heres an option why dont YOU go away?
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awe thats such a sad story.....im so far from a princess its not funny

fable.....lighten the fuck up
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on a seriouse note......

women are scandalous.....i feel that nothing would change in politics even if women were involved

they would just scrap with other women
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why? You dont like the topic of the thread? Growing up as an 18 year old princess aint doing it for you anymore? Isnt there some girls you can ask about what colour there underwear is? heres an option why dont YOU go away?
Damnit Fable, underwear colour is damn important! :)
Well maybe not...
probably more important than most of your posts though
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Damnit Fable, underwear colour is damn important! :)
Well maybe not...
probably more important than most of your posts though
lol
im wearing pink underwear:) for your knowledge
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awe thats such a sad story.....im so far from a princess its not funny

fable.....lighten the fuck up
i dont like you, and youve made it quite clear that you feel the same way, so why the fuck would lighten up, if you tell me to stfu?

Sorry im ignorant to the life and ideology of a princess, your going to have to fill me in.

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on a seriouse note......

women are scandalous.....i feel that nothing would change in politics even if women were involved

they would just scrap with other women
oooo provacative!
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fable my dear, i hate you because everything that comes out of your mouth is BULLSHIT!
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Damnit Fable, underwear colour is damn important! :)
Well maybe not...
probably more important than most of your posts though
lol
oh right, because matters of death and oppression or racial equality, or even the arts for that matter, always take a backseat to well whats covering yours, right? What was i thinking!?

hey, can i have some of those vitamins your taking?
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fable my dear, i hate you because everything that comes out of your mouth is BULLSHIT!
once again, matters of death and violence, and racial equality, and social politics, and even the arts or dnb are bullshit? Because thats usually what im talking about.

But what do i know, i dont even have underwear on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i love it.....absolutly halarious....!
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