Pickton Pleads Not Guilty !!!

[esoter1c]

Canada pig farmer denies murders

Investigators spent months combing the Vancouver farm


A Canadian pig farmer accused of being the country's worst serial killer has pleaded not guilty to the murder of 27 women sex workers and drug addicts.

Robert Pickton is accused of killing the women over a 25-year period.
Mr Pickton, 56, was arrested four years ago when dozens of police swept onto his farm in the suburbs of Vancouver.
Investigators, searching for evidence in the cases of 60-70 sex workers missing from the area, spent months sifting the soil on the farm.
Police say they have found the DNA of at least 31 of the missing Vancouver women at the farm, and evidence to prosecute 27 of the cases.
One of the 27 has still not been identified.
The police have been criticised for not taking the disappearances very seriously at first, but now there is no question that this is a major case, the BBC's Ian Gunn in Vancouver says.

Lengthy search
Since the arrest of Mr Pickton in 2002, the scale of the case has slowly grown, following a painstaking and lengthy search of the land and farm buildings.
The trial began in a small suburban courthouse in New Westminster, British Columbia, crowded with the family and friends of the victims, most of whom were native Indians.
Supporters held a rally outside the courthouse, beating traditional aboriginal drums to remember the dead.
Such is the complexity and volume of evidence that the court is now expected to hold several months of hearings about what evidence can be presented at trial, says our correspondent.
Jury selection and proper testimony are only expected to begin much later this year.
A court ban prevents journalists from reporting any of the evidence until a jury has been chosen.






Feed him to the same fuckin' Pig he fed them to I say.:233:

[fable]

i wonder how much longer those involved will be able to keep under wraps the fact that the farm area where the gruesome violence took place wa actaully the location for many a "party" that took place, that involved many vancouver prominent politicians, businessman/tycoons and other elite that were chafeurred out to the boons, to satisy their more colourful of lusts with underaged prostitutes????

This whole case involves a mass coverup.

[BongMan]

and you can prove this all knowing one??

[PsyTrance4Life]

maybe he is innocent, but i doubt

[Haze]

Fable: I am interested to see where that idea come from, granted it is known that there were many parties out there, I fail to see how this is a huge cover-up... So what do you base your conspiracy theory for the pickton case on?

- ë

[Anjew]

I have a friend who shared a room with his daughter....

[fable]

and you can prove this all knowing one??

Sorry bong, Do you mean knowing "what?" I dont know any of the victims, nor do i know if an of the families or those presumed to have taken part in any illicit or illegal activity personally.

Fable: I am interested to see where that idea come from, granted it is known that there were many parties out there, I fail to see how this is a huge cover-up... So what do you base your conspiracy theory for the pickton case on?

As the article mentioned, there where some Aboriginal peoples involved both in the terrible violence, and related to those involved. The land is rumoured to be aboriginal unceeded territory that was annexed in the past.

But back to the story, ive been in contact with a few respected local Aboriginal Elders, (over the last little while through the course of my activist work), who have spoken on the case, and who i can honestly say, are very upstanding, knowledgable and wise people. These elders also had frequent contact with the families and friends of the victims, stemming from an already strong bond.

It is also important to note that over 60% of the victims where of aboriginal decent, and that police and related authorites for very slow in recognizing a pattern of dead aboriginal women, in a landscape that already finds our canadian judicial system largely ignorant of Indegenous issues, inherant patterns of stigmitization, and a gross inequality of fair representation entrenched in practise.

So, yes i fully admit the original part of my thread, is more a "conspiracy" in light of the fact that it wasnt discussed in our some of bullshit mainstream media sources here in the lower mainland. I trust the intuition, and reasoning of the elders i was in contact, and personally find their opinions having a far better possibility of being based in truth, then the fact that this opinion was or wasnt in the Vancouver sun, or the Province.

A second and more prominent case in recent history is the case against Robert Pickton. Robert Pickton of Port Coquitlam, British Columbia has been called Canada’s worst serial killer. He is responsible for the deaths of 27 women and 60% of those women were Aboriginal. Sixteen of the missing women are Indigenous, a number far in excess of the proportion of Aboriginal women living in Vancouver (Amnesty International Report, Oct/04, p.14). Police and city officials had long denied that there was any pattern to the disappearances or that the women were in any particular danger. Nearly three-quarters of the Vancouver East Side’s prostitutes were Aboriginals. The official search for the missing women began in September 1998 after an Aboriginal Group send police a list of victims allegedly murdered in Downtown Eastside, with a demand for a thorough investigation. Only then were the missing women of Vancouver’s Eastside actually looked at seriously and investigated. Several Aboriginal families complain of "interference" by Vancouver Police Department’s native liaison unit, allegedly telling them not to speak with journalists. Victim Helen Hallmark’s mother defied the ban, declaring, "We need to meet among ourselves and I’m tired of the native liaison unit telling us what to do." (Vancouver, CBC British Columbia) In response, Helen Hallmark’s mother, has decided to retain legal counsel and resolve the matter in court.

taken from a larger article that touches on the canadian judicial and law enforcement sectors "indifference to the deaths and violence inflicted upon Aboriginal Peoples. "

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http://www.vivelecanada.ca/article.p...51012010450408

[Asheai]

My bf's mother is a correction officer at Pickton's jail where he was waiting for trial... she said there was a lot more to his trail than just Pickton, and that they even suspect that the hell's angels were a part of it... that they were the ones who picked up the prostitutes and brought them to the farm... i dunno, i have the feeling there is more to this story than just one fucked up guy...

[Alex]

Let's just say from some of the shit I've heard...

Pickton is the scapegoat.

[Sniper]

There is definately alot more to this trial then everyone has been told.......Pickton, weather found guilty or not, will never see the light of day again.......if he gets off of the charges he will most likely be killed soon after being released.....and if he's found guilty he will be in a cell for the rest of his life with the only contact with another person being the guards.....I can gauruntee that wew will never know exactly what went on at the farm but I don't think that he did all this alone

[nabs]

its just sick what he did.

[project.one]

This is a good post for info. Ive been casually following the case with the news. Interesting ideas in here for sure!

[Chewy]

can someone just take him out back and shoot him. that would be alot easier

[Tayfoon]

People like him fascinate me

[(val)Liam]

I wonder what the plea bargin would have been like on a case were 27 people (and probably more) were murdered... the guy doesn't have anything to lose at this point...

[Vitamin-X]

Maybe Pickton should put out a hundred thousand dollar reward.
You know for information leading to the arrest of the "Real" serial killer who has been dumping bodies at his farm.

[ja_raul]

Originally Posted by Chewy

can someone just take him out back and shoot him. that would be alot easier

Sorry Chewy, thats not how we roll in Canada

[Asheai]

Originally Posted by Chewy

can someone just take him out back and shoot him. that would be alot easier

agreed! fuck this whole expensive, drawn-out legal process! let's just go back to the good old days! lol

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by Asheai

the hell's angels were a part of it... that they were the ones who picked up the prostitutes and brought them to the farm..

:340:

[miss.myra]

Originally Posted by Liam

I wonder what the plea bargin would have been like on a case were 27 people (and probably more) were murdered... the guy doesn't have anything to lose at this point...

Absolutely nothing, and the province is not really willing to negotiate any kind of an attractive plea bargain with someone who is about to stand trial for those crimes. Not to mention the victim's families would be choked if the province even attempted to negotiate anything that would make him get off easier.

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by fable

i wonder how much longer those involved will be able to keep under wraps the fact that the farm area where the gruesome violence took place wa actaully the location for many a "party" that took place, that involved many vancouver prominent politicians, businessman/tycoons and other elite that were chafeurred out to the boons, to satisy their more colourful of lusts with underaged prostitutes????

This whole case involves a mass coverup.

i knew people who went out there, there all either underaged kids or port coquitlam losers. piggies paradise was hardly a place for the elite.

if they found bodies of people in the vancouver or shaughnessy golf clubs or at the terminal city/ vancouver clubs maybe your luducris conspiracy theory would amount to somehting, but piggy's palace was lower on the eliteness scale then the old afterhours here on earth or even drinking in stanely park.

my father knows alot of people in port coquitlam and knows the whole pickton family, he says that he's not shocked about what happened because of how fucked up and creepy the whole family is.

[fable]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

i knew people who went out there, there all either underaged kids or port coquitlam losers. piggies paradise was hardly a place for the elite.

if they found bodies of people in the vancouver or shaughnessy golf clubs or at the terminal city/ vancouver clubs maybe your luducris conspiracy theory would amount to somehting, but piggy's palace was lower on the eliteness scale then the old afterhours here on earth or even drinking in stanely park.

my father knows alot of people in port coquitlam and knows the whole pickton family, he says that he's not shocked about what happened because of how fucked up and creepy the whole family is.

Hmmm, the part of the "parties" is ludicrous indeed, but what if that wasnt the actaul place of the parties, rather just the dumping ground?? Is there anywhere in that area that could have been a location?? Secluded mansions and such?? I think the places you suggested would have already been thought of dont you think? It would make more sence to head out to the boons?

Your father knows the picktons eh? Where was he on the night of......

[Toxxin Ephekt]

Yeah, the shit was all over the province......sick bastard....kinda reminded me of Brick Top from Snatch.... :barf:

[(val)Liam]

Originally Posted by Toxxin Ephekt

Yeah, the shit was all over the province......sick bastard....kinda reminded me of Brick Top from Snatch.... :barf:

that was the first thing I thought about when I first heard about the whole pickton thing... almost like he stole the idea... (or they stole it from him)

"(big long grotesque speech about how the pigs break down humans)...... and that why they say 'as greedy as a pig farmer!!!'"

[Asheai]

Originally Posted by 3507321C

:340:

lol, I don't think the hell's angels are gonna be hanging around a rave forum... and even if they are/do, my address isn't listed anywhere... and i doubt they are resourceful/intelligent enough to be able to properly track an ip addy... ANYWAYS, it's only a theory - no one can be sure (except pickton, I bet...)