I am Happy Without TV

[deliverance]

Holy shit what a thread. Go out and buy a PVR and watch what you want on your OWN time when you want. then fast forward those shite "brainwashing" commmercials too while you're at it.

I will never go back to normal TV after owning one.

(pause the hockey game to go pee anyone???)


/2 cents

J

[fable]

Originally Posted by Cdn_Brdr

You wanted to get me pissed Shak? You wanted to goad me into a fight?

DON'T YOU EVER FUCKING QUESTION MY ABILITY AS A FATHER AGAIN YOU FUCK. I have an 8yr old son who happens to be one of the most important things in the world to me and who, as far as I can tell, is turning out to be a fine person indeed. He's bright, unassuming, and a joy to be around. He's polite, and nice to anyone he meets.... steps above plenty of other children I've seen over the years. How dare you make comments saying I don't know how to be a father to my child. You want to talk ignorance? Shut up about what you don't know.

You want to try and make this personal? You just did....

Id say the feathers are ruffled now eh? You spend the majority of your posting time on this board, critisizing anything and everything. The way people interact, what they put forth, how they put it forward, regardless if you actaully know them, whats going on in their lives, and what is important to them. Id say your responses come from a place, that many other people on this board have too. Its a place thats infinetly personal, and one that no would understand, unless they had some sort of intimate relationship with that person. If the tables were turned, and it was my that made your last comment, youd be the first person to jump in there, with some inane bullshit, calling my words weak, bla bla wank wank.

You have a son? Hes important to you? Your a good father? Thats fantastic, but if you consistenly attempt to push other peoples buttons, one of these days, it will be reciprocated. Its the nature of the beast, when you talk to people that have no face, personality, appearance or a body for that matter. I made a RHETORICAL statement, conncected to my opinion of you, and how i would be scared to see your offspring, based on YOUR WORDS. WORDS that i garantee you have used to insult, demean, and alienate others on this board. I dont know you persoanlly, i dont know how you father your child, so why would you presume to think i do. Your getting blasted with your own medicine, and your fucking choking on it. Your unleashing the same kind of words, that you would bethe first to jump on, regardless of the base, because you never stop to think about it anyways. Your one the longstanding members of this board, and you have thoroughly become a pardoy, of your own inflated, hypocritical self.

Fight? Come on now mate, of all people, id thought youd be the last to suggest such an immature proposition, considering this "is just an internet chatboard," and nothing here "is really serious."

But, its of no consequence, your going to do what you need to do, and ill do the same.

[Cdn_Brdr]

Originally Posted by fable

But, its of no consequence, you want to start something, ill gladly end it.

1) I don't get THAT personal with people so I'm not choking on shit.

2) Don't even attempt to threaten me.

[fable]

Originally Posted by Avana

You know Shakeel, I thought maybe with my previous post, I had possibly taken it one step too far, but after reading this, I am sorry I didn't take it further.

As it is for people who like to take simple debate into the realms of insulting, diminishing, and alienating. You started the bullshit, far earlier back in this thread, You stompled out a precedent of name calling, and assumption far earlier, then when i came on. Im taking yours, and that of cnd hrdr's and running with it. Why was my insult so bad? Because, as it turns out he really is a dad? So someones personal background matters all of a sudden. Because from yours, and cnd hrdrs comments, i dont get that. Since ive been on this board, you are two of a small few, that say anything, about anything, to anyone, and if you hit a nerve, then all of a sudden the comments about how its all fun+games, its only the internet, calm the fuck down bla bla, come out.

You see hun, it aint always fun and games. And peoples "disses" arent always appropriate. So really it would be suffice to say, that perhaps this board would be alot more condusive, to "fun" and "safety" if when people came into "serious debate" left their bullshit snide remarks to threads that already have that foundation?

Your response is just as hypocritical as cnd brdrs, and although i havent really had any run ins with you, id say if your beliefs are similiar to his, in thi situation, youve become just as big a parady of yourself as he has.

You aint going to pull punches, neither should anyone else.

[fable]

Originally Posted by Cdn_Brdr

1) I don't get THAT personal with people so I'm not choking on shit.

2) Don't even attempt to threaten me.

Hahahaha, your attempts at twisting around, accountability are as warped as your ability to reason.

Fuck off, shut up, play with your kid, whatever. Your an idiot, and a hypocritical one at that.

[Cdn_Brdr]

Eat it Shak.... you know damn well I've never gotten personal like that with you.

Maybe I should just call you out for the fucking addict you are? You want to talk about a weak mind? I can say that I've never been addicted to shit. There, we're even.

Call me a hypocrite... whatever. Just don't think that you can escape the same fucking statement... you are just as much a hypocrite as anyone else bud. Fuck you, fuck your weak ass conspiracies, and fuck off.

[fable]

Originally Posted by Cdn_Brdr

Eat it Shak.... you know damn well I've never gotten personal like that with you.

Maybe I should just call you out for the fucking addict you are? You want to talk about a weak mind? I can say that I've never been addicted to shit. There, we're even.

Call me a hypocrite... whatever. Just don't think that you can escape the same fucking statement... you are just as much a hypocrite as anyone else bud. Fuck you, fuck your weak ass conspiracies, and fuck off.

priceless!!!!!!!!!!!

ps. bring all the diggs about me being a junkie you want. I was weak, i was an addict, i was fucked up. Case in point, sweet little, "im innocently debating with people" Avana cooked up this little jewel.

don't believe that the CIA made up these conspiracy theories to distract me from the real problems in the world. I think you made them up in your head in your younger drug induced days and this is the residual effects. I guess if I didn't often leave my house, or was chalk full of mood altering drugs, that I would probably be a lot more like you. I don't want to believe what you do, I can't be bothered to waste my time on the stuff you do and quite frankly, I get tired of reading about your conspiracy theories. I have a job, a company outside my job, a life......maybe you should consider getting one too. And before you go and tell me that I contribute nothing to my society and I have no belief systems, I can tell you that I contribute to over 15 charities a year, I don't believe in war or guns, I volunteer at my grandmothers care home, and I fully support youth activities and anything that helps youth and the arts. Less passive aggressive enough for you?

When did conspiracy theories even come up? What points have i EVER brought up, that couldnt been proven FACT!?

I love the disses in retrospect. Avana being someone, who rarely ever actaully gets into debating points, rather just name calling an assumptions. "perhaps i should get a life?" You dont even know me. All you know is my words on this board, And how that is indicative of me being jobless, or crazy, or whatever, is a feat i really need to know more about. But is this the point where im supposed to list MY personal resume? In an attempt to garner legitimacy?

Would it really mean anything more, if i said that ive been working since i was 12(1990 ish?) That i left SFU with a 3.5 in Crim/Psych in 99? That ive managed to trek through every couhtry in Eurupe? That ive been across the states several times? That ive been a bigbro, mentor, role model, instructor? That i became a red seal chef? I graduated with top marks? That im in school again, killing it (and sometime being killed) in graphic design? That ive been involved in social and political actiism related projects since i was ten? Im part owner of 4 houses, and property in Vegas? What the fuck does all this mean? Nothing! Fucking nothing! Your job, your career, your wealth may be indicative of your work ethic, but i refuse to let it define me as anything else.

Why always the labels of "conspiracy theories" yo? Why? I back up everything, with facts, accounts and as much research as i can muster, in and off this board. I write for a newsletter, a website, and a newspaper. If i do all this, and someone comes along, and says its all conspiracy, its all bullshit, dont I HAVE A RIGHT TO BE OFFENDED?

I know this post is directed at two people, so i apologise, for any confusion, but if you want things to be cocher, then focus on how much shit YOUR are talking. And if you want to get in debate - calling someone a "conspiracy theory follower" or anything resembling that, IS INSULTING. Your basically telling someone, theyre an idiot, and gullible to boot. If this IS ACTAULLY your intent, i mean to insult and belittle, you already know, that i can dish too.

and in case, you still think your free and clear avana, of dishing out insults, heres a few more of your jewels:

Seriously, does the conspiracy theory stuff ever get tired?!

(please note, you started with the conspiracy finger pointing)

I am not an advocate for Television, but seriously, for some reason I have this strange vision of your brother and you sitting at home with tinfoil hats on your heads in case the bad rays get in.....

Quit judging people based on how they spend their recreational time...

hahaha, this is one of cnd brdr's famous hypocricy laden pieces of crap

You call it brainwashing, I call it marketing.....

Oooo, thats good! Do you emply the same techniques in your own business? Are the patrons of you services, "marketed" the same way?

Coming from the guy who once asked "what should I do" in regards to a chick he liked.... wouldn't you say that's asking for other people to make a decision for you? Hypocrite much?

(another cnd hrdrism) Couldnt this qualify as making things personal? I dont know i could be wrong.

Sometime irony hurts, other times it entertains, and sometimes, its just straight delicious.

[fable]

Maybe I should just call you out for the fucking addict you are? You want to talk about a weak mind? I can say that I've never been addicted to shit. There, we're even.

na nana naa naa!

Your pathetic. Perhaps you should throw in some more insults, trying to diminish me, by calling me out for my past life as a junkie, and an alcoholic only empowers me.

[Asheai]

Though i can't say I always agree with you Fable, I just wanted to say thanks for expressing what I was trying to say. about the fact that this was just opinions on something and somehow it got into personal attacks on people (ie me and my brother)... maybe it was unintentional, but it still is true. everyone is entitled to their own opinion, whatever it was, and that's that. you don't have to bring insults into it.

[fable]

Originally Posted by Asheai

Though i can't say I always agree with you Fable, I just wanted to say thanks for expressing what I was trying to say. about the fact that this was just opinions on something and somehow it got into personal attacks on people (ie me and my brother)... maybe it was unintentional, but it still is true. everyone is entitled to their own opinion, whatever it was, and that's that. you don't have to bring insults into it.

Yeah, it would of been better if i could have steered clear of the reactive comments that I HAVE made, (im no angel) but it is, what it is.

You and your bro consistently manage not to go off, get base, or say hurtful things to others, inspite of getting into debate that spawns such bullshit. I think thats cool, and im guessing for some reason, or another, that both of you are like this in real life. I hope one day, ill manage to learn how to face hostility born of ignorance in the same manner. This junkie still has a lot to learn.

peace+'spect
Shak

[sidekick]

instead of debating you all should just mud wrestle.

we could charge ten bucks a ticket and then save some rainforest or something.

[AAA]

who needs the Tele-tube when you have real friends :P

[AAA]

Originally Posted by deliverance

Holy shit what a thread. Go out and buy a PVR and watch what you want on your OWN time when you want. then fast forward those shite "brainwashing" commmercials too while you're at it.

I will never go back to normal TV after owning one.

(pause the hockey game to go pee anyone???)


/2 cents

J

I assume you mean DVR = Digital Video Recorder but if you own a PVR thats dope too cept i have no idea what it is would you inlighten me?

[esoter1c]

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[fable]

Originally Posted by Sidekick

instead of debating you all should just mud wrestle.

we could charge ten bucks a ticket and then save some rainforest or something.

hey! Keep yo fantasies outta this!







besides, id charge 20$ put in on payperview and sub mud for creamed corn.

[maztraz]

Originally Posted by Sidekick

marketing isn't other people making your decisions for you. no one forces you to buy one product over another. YOU make that choice based on reviews from other people, your own research, and yes, even advertising. this doesn't mean you are forced or brainwashed into buying anything. it's still all your own decision. corporations could spend trillions of dollars on marketing if they wanted to and people could still decide just not to buy it.

The old American proverb says if you
want to con someone, you must first get
him to trust you, or at least feel
superior to you (these two ideas are
related), and get him to let down his
guard. The proverb explans a great deal
about television commercials. If we
assume that people are not stupid,
they must react to TV commercials
with a feeling of superiority that permits
them to believe they are in control.
As long as this illusion of volition persists,
they would cousciously have nothing to
fear from the commercials. People are
prone to trust anything over which they
believe they have control. . . .
TV commercials appear folish, clumsy,
and ineffectual on purpose. They are
made to appear this way at the couscious
level in order to be cousciously ridiculed
and rejected. . . .Most ad men will confirm
that over the years the seemingly worst
commercials have sold the best.
An effective TV commercial is purposefully
designed to insult the viewer's couscious
intelligence, thereby penetrating his defenses.

--Wilson Bryan Key,
Subliminal Seduction