eagle ridge dispute

Play-it-hard · #1 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

Discuss..

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/ne...c68465&k=16556

Don't get me wrong, I love animals and the outdoors but, I think those environmentalists are out of their minds. This is BC, a delevoping province.. If its not here they will tear down some other peice of land.. We do have quite alot of it. The olympics are on the way, and a better roadway to support all the people is needed !!

BongMan · #2 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

Vancouver is the land of protest always has been

PwInCeSs · #3 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

A better roadway was needed way befor the olympics were chosen to come here. Im all for environment and having a place for all the animals and everything but i mean not all of these people are protesting for that reason.

BongMan · #4 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

Ohhh the environment is being dammaged but please look away from my multimillion dollar clearcut manicured square thnx.

Senior · #5 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

I was arrested at Clayoquot and have been involved with many other issues since. But this... I don't know enough to say if it's that important or not but it seems like a bit of a stretch. I think people need to pick their fights wisely and this sounds more like a case of nimby's.

Play-it-hard · #6 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

I fully agree

BongMan · #7 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

Well they want the Tunnel cause hell who wants a huge 4 lane hwy going through their backyard. But the tunnel may very well have greater effects on the land then the overland route.

project.one · #8 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

Humm... While I agree about preserving the wild. We kinda do need it.

Im not an extreamist in this sorta thing.

My sister would be better to rant on about this! She is so peta!

Senior · #9 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

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Originally Posted by projectone

Humm... While I agree about preserving the wild. We kinda do need it.

Im not an extreamist in this sorta thing.

My sister would be better to rant on about this! She is so peta!

PETA and ELF... love it! I don't agree with what they do but to keep it short it takes all kinds.

gnosis · #10 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

Are most of the protesters NIMBY's?
Yes.

Will there be environmental degradation due to the highway upgrades?
Yes.

Do we need to upgrade the Highway?
NO! Not at all!

The reasons being given by the proponents for this EXPEN$$$IVE upgrade mostly centre around the Olympics and how we have to be able to move _ALL_ these people back and forth from Whistler.

FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If _anyone_ had any fucking concern, whatsoever, about the international community coming here, they'd be supporting increases to PUBLIC FUCKING TRANSPORTATION, muthafuckers!!!!!

What kind of dumbass argument would want people from around the planet to have to rent their own vehicles or coaches to get back and forth on the Ski to Die Highway?!

Seems none of these same proponents has ever travelled to other parts of the globe, before.

Ya want people to visit? Ya make it EASY to visit!
Expand public transit!
Make it _simple_ to get around!
Easy-access arrive/depart stations!
Economical, and environmentally-friendly!
Let them have drinks on a train, back and forth!
Less loogans on the road to kill themselves (and others)!
(I'm not even going to play the "Gas-Price" card)

The super-rich elite (and let's face it, this _IS_ an elitist event) can easily hire their own private limos to take them back and forth.
For the ones spending hard-earned cash to attend an event they feel passionate about, getting around should be the LEAST of their worries!

Frosty
(sick of skewed arguments)

Senior · #11 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

While I sympathize with this perspective and agree with you in some ways there is a bigger picture. The simple breakdown is this. Whistler is a huge source of tax revenue. The people going there are on vacation and want to travel by their own vehichle. The highway as it was did not meet the needs of the traffic going up it. While my perspective is largely anecdotal I do have a good base of knowledge for this perspective. I worked for intrawest for 3 years selling vacations in Whistler (and every other destination) and most people wanted to rent a car. Call these people eletist if you want and dislike them for being this way but this is a business case. While I would like to see a train link which I think would be more popular that's not what was decided on.

This does not reflect my ideals it reflects what I see as the reality of this situation.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnosis

Are most of the protesters NIMBY's?
Yes.

Will there be environmental degradation due to the highway upgrades?
Yes.

Do we need to upgrade the Highway?
NO! Not at all!

The reasons being given by the proponents for this EXPEN$$$IVE upgrade mostly centre around the Olympics and how we have to be able to move _ALL_ these people back and forth from Whistler.

FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If _anyone_ had any fucking concern, whatsoever, about the international community coming here, they'd be supporting increases to PUBLIC FUCKING TRANSPORTATION, muthafuckers!!!!!

What kind of dumbass argument would want people from around the planet to have to rent their own vehicles or coaches to get back and forth on the Ski to Die Highway?!

Seems none of these same proponents has ever travelled to other parts of the globe, before.

Ya want people to visit? Ya make it EASY to visit!
Expand public transit!
Make it _simple_ to get around!
Easy-access arrive/depart stations!
Economical, and environmentally-friendly!
Let them have drinks on a train, back and forth!
Less loogans on the road to kill themselves (and others)!
(I'm not even going to play the "Gas-Price" card)

The super-rich elite (and let's face it, this _IS_ an elitist event) can easily hire their own private limos to take them back and forth.
For the ones spending hard-earned cash to attend an event they feel passionate about, getting around should be the LEAST of their worries!

Frosty
(sick of skewed arguments)

elliot · #12 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Senior

I was arrested at Clayoquot

but getting back to the point, i took home baked cookies to those brave protestors early in their stand, on a rainy day. even in a hopeless battle, a stand must be taken in support of what is right.

Ray! · #13 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

i think protest is good
u can make a diffrence

Play-it-hard · #14 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

^ ^ Sure, but think about what they are protesting ! You don't see them out at every logging company raising hell ..

Senior · #15 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Play-it-hard

^ ^ Sure, but think about what they are protesting ! You don't see them out at every logging company raising hell ..

Do you have a point?

Play-it-hard · #16 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

What do you THINK my point is ?

Senior · #17 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Play-it-hard

What do you THINK my point is ?

Perhaps you were agreeing with the point raised earlier that this is case of nimby's? I wouldn't know though as you made no point.

(just curious if you were going anywhere?)

narc · #18 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

People should stop bitching and start thinking about your children's future playground.

99% of the province is unoccupied, there's enough trees/land to go around for the next generation.

rustybob · #19 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnosis

Ya want people to visit? Ya make it EASY to visit!
Expand public transit!
Make it _simple_ to get around!
Easy-access arrive/depart stations!
Economical, and environmentally-friendly!
Let them have drinks on a train, back and forth!
Less loogans on the road to kill themselves (and others)!
(I'm not even going to play the "Gas-Price" card)

If you've got the 10 trillion dollars to do everything you want there, then by all means, fund it. This will never happen, plain and simple. We all take it up the ass enough in taxes, and a useless project like this isn't going to put more money in our pockets.

Silverwinged · #20 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

Quote:

Originally Posted by narc

People should stop bitching and start thinking about your children's future playground.

99% of the province is unoccupied, there's enough trees/land to go around for the next generation.

oh tom.
that was a silly thing to say.
enough trees and land?

the more we build, the further we have to go to get to these "playgrounds"
which is only going to increase urban sprawl.

it is atrocious that they are trying to build through eagle ridge.
its OUR money spent, and its not going to be money WE see back when the olympics come and pass anyways. so what is the point?
if anything, we'll get bled dry from inflation.

mapleleaf4ever · #21 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

Quote:

Originally Posted by narc

People should stop bitching and start thinking about your children's future playground.

99% of the province is unoccupied, there's enough trees/land to go around for the next generation.

You said it way nicer than I could have. lol

Mangle · #22 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

They could've built a tunnel and not destroyed more animal habitat. Instead, the Canadian police again cave to American interrests and murder otherwise useful land in the name of progress. Will they put a toll on that stupid fucking road? Never. Yet we all still have to pay $10 to visit the rest of Canada. Fuck every rich cunt who goes to Whistler. You suck.

mapleleaf4ever · #23 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

A Tunnel? You know how much MORE that would cost?

narc · #24 (**permalink**) May 31, 06

I could have sworn I saw one of those hardcore eco-thumpers sneaking around in the forests and 'planting' an eagles nest just to fuck with everyone's head.

mapleleaf4ever · #25 (**permalink**) Jun 01, 06

^ Wouldn't surprise me. I've seen those silly fuckers doing all sorts of weird shit on the North Island and on the West Coast.

What really pisses me off is Tree Spiking. But that's another Thread all together.