USC6 travel info advisory/FAQ - PLEASE READ IF YOU ARE UNDER AGE!

[MC Hammered]

As for getting down to the US, I feel that a vanload of partykids is going to have a hard time explaining why they should let you in.

I gone down there many times and if you have a nice balance between adults and youths it is a lot easier to get across. Especially if the driver know how to answer the questions without looking nervous.

DO NOT LIE TO THEM! If they catch you in a lie you are in a load of trouble.

If you have a criminal record you better tell them because they know.

You do need ID and if you don't have any everyone goes back into Canada or you go back home alone. You really know how good your friends are at that point in time. If you do this too often during the day (turn around) they know and it'll make your situation that much worse as it draws suspicion to you.

As from bringing vitamins, I'm not saying you should, but if you do decide to do so, just bring it for your own use.

I personally do not like the idea of picking up goods that are untested at the party and the fact that you are in the US. If you have no medical insurance to cover you in case of something nasty happens to you.

If you go to a hospital without insurance you and/or your parents are FUCKED! The bill that is going to come will make your student loan look like chump change.

If you do decide to bring stuff down with you know this: their drug laws are much different then ours. Why do you think drug peeps come to Canada?

Anyway, to help avoid getting caught, make sure whatever you bring can be easily accessed when you EXIT your vehicle. This means DO NOT crotch the shit.

Keep it up your sleeve or something so if the boarder guard asks you to pull over you can drop the goods and grind them into the ground with your shoe and plead ignorance.

It's better to have them be suspicious of you then to be caught red handed with something illegal in your possession.

You do not want to fuck around with US Customs officers. They have SICK amounts of power. In fact if they wanted to they can ban you from entering the US for quite a while, 10 years if I'm not mistaken.

When I go down there for business trip I need to bring a letter stating why, where and for how long. You don't give them lip and you always answer 'Sir'.

Trust me. I've been pulled over once and when I watched then go nuts and search this family and their car, I was glad I had nothing to hide.

If you kids do decide to go, I agree that jumping on the Greyhoyund is by far the safest route to take. It does suck once you get there as you have no transportation and everything costs 50% more so your money won't go as far.

Oh yea! Canadian money is USELESS past Bellingham. I was running out of gas, tried to fill up and had a few hundered Canadian on me and they could care less.

If you want to stay overnight cheap, either find the hostel or you have to exit the city limits and stay closer to the airport. As I said before it is about $60US a night and you can jam 4 people into a room quite nicely as they have two queen size beds.

If you want more info let me know and I'll see if I can dig up an answer.

[*STARFISH*]

thanks for posting that :D:
good to know.

btw if they have any proof that you had anything you will get locked in a padded room and they will literally tear apart your car and leave you to put it back together. my friends dad had a cuban cigar in his car and he was stuck in this room for 3 hours while they ripped his car appart.

so everybody please be careful. :)

[M!SKA]

Thats an excellent post! Thank you so much!

I would have never thought about the money thing..

[~lazee_grrl~]

thanx winston..its nice to know and much easier to read here then from that humungo thread~

[Shinri]

My coworker's brother (the kid's what, 17?) crossed the border in a van with his friends, a total of maybe 10 people? EVERY SINGLE ONE in that van was under 17. The van reeked of alcohol and pot...

And the customs officer let them in.

Once across the border (note, they were coming from the states, into Canada), they then realized what they'd just did. Imagine, crossing the border at 3am in a van full of kids with beer. Hell, they weren't even legal to drink!

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Another one..

A different coworker, in his younger days used to deal. For a while, he'd stopped (I don't think he deals anymore...). Anyway, he'd lost an ounce of some weed somehow (don't ask me how), and him and his friends were going down south to some campsite for some camping. They get in the car, my friend gets into the driver's seat, and they cross the border, and everything's good until they get out...

There was an ounce of weed loged between the seat and the floor of the car.

Needless to say, they had to deal that off down in the states. :D: :185:

[SPK]

Very informative. And I like the way you give kids tips if they DO decide to bring their own stuff down, BUT...

and this is a big BUT...

NOBODY SHOULD TRY TO BRING DRUGS OVER THE BORDER.

That is utterly rediculous. How fucking bad does anyone need to get high? I think you need to understand that getting busted with drugs while crossing the border is a verrrrrry serious offense. You want to worry about medical bills if you happen to pop some bad shit from a dealer at a Seattle Rave (of which there will be many)? Here's another useful tip: Buy something and test it. Bring a kit. Or get one in Seattle ( http://www.dancesafeseattle.org ). Or, god forbid, don't do drugs at the party. I mean shit, you'll be in Seattle, with probably the biggest lineup of talent you will ever see. Do you really need to get high? If you do need to get high that badly, and you care so little about yourself or the people who are with you in the car, maybe you should be locked down in a maximium security prison in Washington for a couple of years. You think I'm kidding? I am not. DO NOT FUCK WITH THE BORDER.

But if you absolutely have to, put !!!2 PILLS!!! in a water balloon. Keep them tucked into the right side of your cheek (the side away from the booth) in your mouth. If you are asked to pull over, swallow them. Even if the balloon breaks, you'll just get really ripped a little early. If it doesn't, you can induce vomiting (I recommend AM/PM for that) and pick through your puke, or wait until tomorrow and shit it out for the after-party. But even then you can be held for 24 hours while the Customs Agents feed you Ex-Lax and wait to pick through your shit. Sound worth it?

[MC Hammered]

SPK,

I didn't condone bringing stuff across the boarder, but I am sure if I told everyone not to try some are going to anyway.

So the ones with some smarts are already clear, it's the risk takers I was passing some adivce onto.

As for drug dealers in the Seattle? When I was at USC5 I was hit up numerous times by various people asking if I wanted all sorts of drugs. You can get almost anything you down there, the question is can you trust it.

I agree with you that you should not fuck around with the boarder. US Custom agents have incredible amounts of power and can really screw you up for the rest of your life if something does go wrong.

You don't want a couple of tabs to ruin your night or for that matter the rest of your life.

[bob]

good post winston.

i think if you guys plan on renting a budget van and driving down there, the driver should personally search everyone himself before going to the border... cuz he's gonna get fucked the most from other ppl's stupidity. i can't imagine the shit you'd get in from having a rental van impounded. my friend had his car taken away from him at the border and he literally had to buy the car back from the US, plus he's not allowed to enter the states for 10 years or whatever.

remember not to wear tighty whitey's.

[Rhianna]

To everyone who's coming down with me, DO NOT bring any drugs or I will break you face in five different places. I have faith in you all and I know you can handle one sober party.

[M!SKA]

Originally posted by Rhianna
To everyone who's coming down with me, DO NOT bring any drugs or I will break you face in five different places. I have faith in you all and I know you can handle one sober party.

NO SHIT.
Would you like to be security with Starfish and I? We can personally kick anyones ass that tries to brings drugs. It'll be great fun

[bebu*funfun]

thanks for all that wonderful information!

totally agreeee! someone said this but i'm just gonna say it again...LOOK AT THE LINEUP FOR THIS HUGE PARTY! i'm pretty damn sure the vibe will take over and drugs is seriously not needed. taking chances with the us border is something i personally would never risk.

[c.tard]

shinri ~ just a reminder, canada customs officers are alot more lenient then us ones..

and remember people, you don't wanna fuck around with us customs officers.. ESPESHULLY NOW! sure they may have been lenient last year or whenever, but after 9/11 i'm sure you've seen the border messes. they'll tear apart any and every car they goddamn feel like...

so just be careful!

[Rhianna]

Originally posted by Miska
Would you like to be security with Starfish and I? We can personally kick anyones ass that tries to brings drugs. It'll be great fun

Sounds like a plan, I'll be in charge of breaking faces!

[oddmud2]

Originally posted by MC Hammered
As for drug dealers in the Seattle? When I was at USC5 I was hit up numerous times by various people asking if I wanted all sorts of drugs. You can get almost anything you down there, the question is can you trust it.

Can you trust anything you buy at a party here?

It's no different.

[*STARFISH*]

Originally posted by Rhianna


Sounds like a plan, I'll be in charge of breaking faces!

alrighty!!
now we need 3 security shirts made! :Power-P:

[~lazee_grrl~]

heya..i read on ED that a train ride was cheaper and better then greyhounding it...~

[victor h.]

wow sweet..
u practically have enuf information for us
to sneek fobs into the states!

[SPK]

Can you fit 2 in your mouth?

[Double J]

Hey just another thing you should keep in mind:

Take off your sunglasses when talking to the officer. It seems that you are hiding something when you have them on.

[rawb]

some other things to consider:

customs officers don't like kids. they will question you inside and out. make sure you have answers to the following questions...

1) where you are going, when youw ill return
2) KNOW THE REAL FULL NAMES OF EVERYONE ELSE IN THE CAR. if they question you and you cant name everyone they will think something is up.
3) make a mental note of who you are with in the car and how you are related to them (friend, brother, whatever)
4) know where you are staying
5) they will want to know your financial information. they will ask you how much money you have on you. to little and they will get suspicious on how you're going to get back in an emergency, too much and they may think you're dealing/buying drugs.
6) know the contents of the trunk. ive been asked this and it wasnt even my car.
7) *everyone* needs 2 peices of id or a passport. drivers license and birth certificate. if you are under 18 i believe you also need a parents note acknowleging you are going accross the border and that there is a guardian in charge.
8) try to dress nice. leave the rave gear in a bag and get the gap on if at all possible.

border officials can deny you entry for any reason, and detain you if they're feeling nasty. they dont fuck around. especially after sept 11th. go in with a mature attitude, and things should be fine.

[mister-peenutt]

i suggest getting insurance for the weekend before you go down.

its not that expensive. its like a couple bux and you're covered for like 2days or something.

just incase.

:Peenutt:

[ty:rone]

whoever's hitting up the meetup this saturday to pick up tix / greyhound tix, i can help out a lil insurance if u guys wish.

yes it is only like 10 bux. worth it if u OD ok

[ty:rone]

lazee girl...
please tell us the price for takin the train if u know
it's kinda gettin close to the party date and if it's really cheaper than sure we'll all go.
but don't just say rumours... give us sum 411 ... anybody

[galaxie]

Originally posted by werdyboy:
some other things to consider:

customs officers don't like kids. they will question you inside and out. make sure you have answers to the following questions...

1) where you are going, when youw ill return
2) KNOW THE REAL FULL NAMES OF EVERYONE ELSE IN THE CAR. if they question you and you cant name everyone they will think something is up.
3) make a mental note of who you are with in the car and how you are related to them (friend, brother, whatever)
4) know where you are staying
5) they will want to know your financial information. they will ask you how much money you have on you. to little and they will get suspicious on how you're going to get back in an emergency, too much and they may think you're dealing/buying drugs.
6) know the contents of the trunk. ive been asked this and it wasnt even my car.
7) *everyone* needs 2 peices of id or a passport. drivers license and birth certificate. if you are under 18 i believe you also need a parents note acknowleging you are going accross the border and that there is a guardian in charge.
8) try to dress nice. leave the rave gear in a bag and get the gap on if at all possible.

border officials can deny you entry for any reason, and detain you if they're feeling nasty. they dont fuck around. especially after sept 11th. go in with a mature attitude, and things should be fine.

You pretty much summed up everything I was going to say.

It was said earlier in this post, but I think I'm going to re-iterate it: Don't tell them you're going to a rave! That's stupid. Tell them you're going to a party with some friends in Seattle or something like that. After all, you technically ARE going to a party in Seattle with some friends, that way they can't catch you in a lie.

BE EXTREMELY POLITE, as well!

As for the train, I think it only goes once per day, very early in the morning.

u are going to a music festival! or electronic music concert! but not a rave