brokeback mountain

[sidekick]

just got back from seeing this film at the park theatre on cambie street (i think the only place in vancouver that it's playing).

i really liked this movie. it was exactly what i was hoping for. a movie about two gay guys that isn't gay at all. it's set in the 60's in the southern states. it's a pretty sad and powerful film. heath ledger did some crazy good acting, i'll be surprised if there's no nominations his way.

there's minimal nudity and nothing that is going to make any straight guys squirm if you go and watch it, so i suggest heading out and seeing it.

the only thing that bothered me really was that as the film went on and 20 years passed...they never really looked any older. it's hard to do time passing in movies, especially 20 years and i'm just thankful they didn't do the "five years later..." bit over and over again.

4 out of 5 stars.

[baby-phat]

I'm really looking forward to seeing this movie. Looks like it's gonna be good.
I'd like to hear your thoughts on the plot and other such things. :)

[sidekick]

the story was really good. it was pretty emotional to watch these two guys have to lead this hidden life for 20 years while they went and each got married and had kids and such. i can't imagine living like that, hiding myself from everyone. i'm sure many people in that time had to do that kind of thing...hell, i'm sure there are guys now that do that still.

[~lazee_grrl~]

yeah..i just watched it at the park theatre too..

good movie
the aging process was done badly..especially for heath ledger..
it was definitely very emotional to watch..
there were a few crazy passionate scenes that i thought were done really well..
intense acting..

i wonder if anne hathaway or any of the kids knew about the hidden lives..

[Revolver]

YEAH, this looks like a really goodone. i must give respect to heath and jake for taking on these roles...evan if it is painfully obvious that they are both trying to convince all the critics that there willing to take risks when chooseing thier roles...

wasnet this adapeted from a book or a previous film?? i havent seen it yet, but i swore i read that in todays vancouver sun...im too lazy to google it.

anyway....yeah this is a must see. as soon as i see it ill add to this thread.

[acidic_liquid]

I've heard nothing but good things about this. I'm excited. I really hope they don't get shunned at awards ceremonies because gay movies winning titles are pretty much unheard of. It's a silly taboo.

I was just annoyed that the website said Dec. 9th, but didn't mention the "In Limited Release" part. So my friends and I had to wait another week, then we read that Vancouver's release date is the 16th.... but only for Park Theatre. We decided to just see Memoirs of a Geisha because we were downtown. I know for a fact that this movie will come out in Famous Players theatres on the 23rd.

Can't wait!!

[acidic_liquid]

Originally Posted by revolver

wasnet this adapeted from a book or a previous film?? i havent seen it yet, but i swore i read that in todays vancouver sun...im too lazy to google it.

It's adapted/based on a short story by Annie Prioux(sp?).

[sidekick]

i don't think it's going to get shunned from award shows because of the big names attachd to it. Ang Lee has already won an academy award for directing before and we all know who heath ledger and jake gyllenhal are.

plus, it was already nominated for best drama in the golden globes i think.

[Liqwid]

oh wow. i didn't know it was playing anywhere yet, thanks for the FYI jake!

i really have to see this movie.....but like memoirs of a geisha. i kinda want to read the book firsts!!!

.dalyn.

[sidekick]

^well 'brokeback mountain' is only a short story so i'm sure you can read it before you see the movie no problem.

ps. i bet it's only a matter of time before they release a gay porn under the title "bearback mountain" or "bearback mounting" haha.

[Liqwid]

Originally Posted by Sidekick

ps. i bet it's only a matter of time before they release a gay porn under the title "bearback mountain" or "bearback mounting" haha.

lol.......not that first time i've heard "bearback moutain" before.....

but it is for "bearback mounting" and it fucking funny!!!!!!

but i think both those porns would be icky.......ewwwww fur......ewww

.dalyn.

[diva]

i saw it on opening night as well
excellent
heath ledger is so fucking amazing in this movie

it opens everywhere this friday, they just didn't want to compete with geisha and king kong, so they decided to wait a few weeks (was originally supposed to come out on the 9th)

edit: i thought michelle williams gave a strong performance as well

In that scene where she sees jack and ennis kissing, and the one years later when she finally tells him that she's known all this time that he wasn't really ever "fishing?"

I found it really interesting that jack ended up in a similar situation (at the end there) to the one that made ennis so afraid to be with him openly

Jack was definitely gay, but i'm honesly not sure if Ennis was. I think he just fell in love with Jack on the mountain and stayed in love with him until the end.

ps. the spitting scene is actually in the short story as well.

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[diva]

Originally Posted by Sidekick

i really liked this movie. it was exactly what i was hoping for. a movie about two gay guys that isn't gay at all. it's set in the 60's in the southern states.

i'm pretty sure it was set in small town wyoming.

[mindgurl]

ohhhh i really want to see this movie.

[sidekick]

Originally Posted by diva

i'm pretty sure it was set in small town wyoming.

partly in texas, too? i can't remember exactly where. i know it was filmed in alberta though :)

i disagree with you about thinking that Ennis wasn't gay. i think he was. i just think he was struggling with the idea a lot more than Jack was. all through the movie he gets hugely physical anytime he has to deal with the fact of his sexuality and he lashes out. i think he was just angry at the hand that he got dealt in life...he tried to make it work out the way he wanted too by marrying that chick and having kids, but he knew i think in the back of his mind that it would never work out.

[diva]

Originally Posted by Sidekick

partly in texas, too? i can't remember exactly where. i know it was filmed in alberta though :)

i disagree with you about thinking that Ennis wasn't gay. i think he was. i just think he was struggling with the idea a lot more than Jack was. all through the movie he gets hugely physical anytime he has to deal with the fact of his sexuality and he lashes out. i think he was just angry at the hand that he got dealt in life...he tried to make it work out the way he wanted too by marrying that chick and having kids, but he knew i think in the back of his mind that it would never work out.

there's no indication in the movie that he thought of other men like that, though
i think that's part of the point of the love story, that it transcends sexuality
his only sexual encounter was with jack--even after he got divorced and was really lonely

[sidekick]

i suppose you could be right, but i still don't see it like that. he was obviously pissed off when he found out that Jack went down to mexico to see those guys. and even jack said that he couldn't just shut himself off like Ennis does. i think that's one of the saddest parts of this movie. that you have this gay guy Ennis who has had to push his sexuality deep down inside and hide it because of his father and the rest of society, that he can't seem to let it back out again.

and i think that's the reason that he's all lonely. he can't do what jack does and go out and find guys. he just has jack.

[diva]

if ennis was a woman and had a one time romance with another woman i wouldn't automatically think she was a lesbian

i don't think he was gay
did he have to be?
he loved jack, and that's it

[sidekick]

no, i don't think he has to be gay. the movie just led me to believe that he was extremely repressed about his sexuality due to outside forces and that's the reason that he was only with jack during those times when they could get away from everything.

i don't think that one gay experience is enough to say someone is gay at all. but his was multiple times over a span of 20 years and he wasn't able to find a female relationship that fulfilled that same feeling. plus, this was during a time when being 'gay' wasn't acceptable so it would make sense for someone to hide it so deeply like that.

i think that's the where the power of this movie comes from. it shows that relationships between two guys are just as loving as other relationships, except they have to go through this other shit as well (more so in that time period).

edit: i suppose that's what makes this a good movie. sexuality is such a complex thing that you can interpret it in a number of ways and each of them are just as plausible. and the movie shows this complexity well.

[diva]

it's not that he wasn't able to find a female relationship, it's that he wasn't able to find a relationship, period. all he needed was jack, that's why he stayed alone.

again, take away the whole gay/straight thing and you have a simple love story about two ppl who loved eachother but couldn't be with eachother.

it's a timeless story.
people have experienced it with class and race as well.
obstacles getting in the way of two people.

only difference in this movie is that their obstacle was the fact that they were both men.

[sidekick]

^yeah, that's exactly why i think this movie is so important. it just shows love as love, regardless of what sex you are.

[diva]

Originally Posted by Sidekick

edit: i suppose that's what makes this a good movie. sexuality is such a complex thing that you can interpret it in a number of ways and each of them are just as plausible. and the movie shows this complexity well.

idon't think the movie was about sexuality. i think it's kind of a narrow way of looking at it. i never tried to interpret their sexuality, i'm just saying that i didn't get the sense that ennis was struggling with the fact that he was gay. to me, he was simply struggling with the fact the he coudln't have the one person that he wanted.

i just saw the characters are two ppl who were very conflicted.

jack could have moved to be closer ennis, but he was too comfortable with his wife's money and his set up in texas to make that sacrifice.

ennis was too afraid to move to texas and be with jack because of the gay bashing incident he witnessed as a child.

[sidekick]

i wasn't saying that the movie was only about sexuality. i said it was a movie about love and that's what was so great about it. and that it shows love between two guys as just as valid and real as any other type of love. but it also shows the struggle that two guys loving each other have to go through...accepting it themselves (which i think ennis was having trouble doing) and balancing it with what society wants them to be.

we can agree to disagree. like i said before, one of the great parts of this movie is it's ability to get people thinking about things like this and sparking conversations surrounding love and sexuality and all of that stuff.

[mojo]

my mom just read your reviews guys and she plans to see it pretty quick. she says thankyou.

[diva]

she'll really love it

i'm going to see it again for sure