Ninja Boy

[ppcock]

edited - i got my point across..

[Revolver]

two words:

what happend

[esoter1c]

His friend was promised a massage with release but only got a massage.

[NinjaBoy]

I'm not going to be nice to people passed out from doing to many drugs or drinking passed out under the stairs at a club, who won't leave or get up when I ask them.

And if he was your friend why were you stashing him under the stairs? He was obviously in no conditon to be there. He needed to get out of there.

I'll admit, I probably didn't need to swear at him. But I was in a bad mood, and when he asked "Where's bailey?" my first reaction, and what came out of my mouth is "I don't know where your fucking friends are".

[NinjaBoy]

Ps- Don't ever call me out, on a public message board, implying that I should be fired.

Espeically one, where you know where one of my managers posts. Just because your friend got tossed. You work at a club. How would you like it if the tables were reversed.

PM, or talking to me (I was at the club all night) was the logical thing to do. Especially since this has nothing to do with anyone here and no reason it should be posted on a public message board.

You got a problem with me throwing out your friend, talk to me one on one.

[Phrenetic]

ninja dude,

did you even assess if the dude under the stairs needed medical help?

people incapacitated usually cant get up even if you ask them. i know you were trying to be professional but a drunkard at a club is better than a fatality at a club

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by Phrenetic

ninja dude,

did you even assess if the dude under the stairs needed medical help?

people incapacitated usually cant get up even if you ask them. i know you were trying to be professional but a drunkard at a club is better than a fatality at a club

So I should have left him inside passed out? The best thing in the case that he needs medical attention or he drank to much is to get him outside, and away from a packed club.

The solution to both problems is the same.

[Phrenetic]

what happens once hes outside? im not really familiar with bar/club rules.

how did he get so drunk in the first place?

I am not challenging anyone im just curious

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by Phrenetic

what happens once hes outside? im not really familiar with bar/club rules.

If he needs medical attention. We call an ambulance, and the police. This is very very rare.

If he doesn't. We have one of his friends take him out.

how did he get so drunk in the first place?

uh... Alcohol - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

If your wondering how he may have been over served. Two bartenders, four hundred people. They won't serve someone who doesn't look like they can handle it. But sometimes people slip by, or more often then not, friends by them shots.

[Phrenetic]

has there been a time when i guy has been escorted outside and left to wander the streets hammed out of there tree?

is it true that once there outside there not your responsibility anymore?

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by Phrenetic

has there been a time when i guy has been escorted outside and left to wander the streets hammed out of there tree?

is it true that once there outside there not your responsibility anymore?

I'm sure it has happened at every club, bar, resturant.

You can't expect the staff to babysit someone else's friends, cause they aren't done partying.

[ppcock]

there's reasons why there's doormen.. say the tables where reversed, it wasnt my friend.. it wasnt some shitty goth night and you still acted like you did. you would've got the shit beaten out of you.

your job is a barback.. when you see dude passed out for whatever reason, its not your job to wake him up. you get a doorman to do that.
God know's what you said when you went outside to get the doorman cause he was charging in to come grab him. I told that guy.. I would get him out and he was cool with it.

believe you me, that guy wasnt really my friend.. he kept on spilling drinks on me. If I was working there, He would've been out a long time ago.

But, he went out for countless smokes... bumping into people almost passing out right infront of the doormen.

[Drazkers]

Originally Posted by Phrenetic

has there been a time when i guy has been escorted outside and left to wander the streets hammed out of there tree?

is it true that once there outside there not your responsibility anymore?

Actually, BC liquor laws state that you are still responsible if a patron has been injured after being over served at the club.

[ppcock]

besides.. doormen grab backup.. just incase something does go wrong. So like i said, if the tables were reversed.. you're one lonely guy and this is vancouver.. you fuck around with the wrong guy.. either he shoots you down or he beats you up while you're walking home.


So honestly, my point is.. just be safe and dont raise your voice. I know you're not going to listen to me.. but being nice and friendly has saved me out of hundreds of possible fights.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by ppcock

there's reasons why there's doormen.. say the tables where reversed, it wasnt my friend.. it wasnt some shitty goth night and you still acted like you did. you would've got the shit beaten out of you.

I can judge accordingly. Small guy passed out from drinking too much, I'll wake him up.

believe you me, that guy wasnt really my friend.. he kept on spilling drinks on me. If I was working there, He would've been out a long time ago.

If you were working you would have taken him out, but if your hanging out with the guy at the club, you'll let it slide?

But, he went out for countless smokes... bumping into people almost passing out right infront of the doormen.

That's there thing, if you still feel like calling people out in public and saying that they should be fired. Why don't you swing by the club tonight, they'll be there.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by ppcock

besides.. doormen grab backup.. just incase something does go wrong. So like i said, if the tables were reversed.. you're one lonely guy and this is vancouver.. you fuck around with the wrong guy.. either he shoots you down or he beats you up while you're walking home.

I can use common sense. Small goth kid, who's had too much to drink. Chances are he isn't going to hunt me down and shoot me, because I told him to wake the fuck up.

[ppcock]

I'm not going to go to the club and complain to the doorstaff.. but I told his friend to get him out countless times. right from the start of the night, i knew something was going to happen to him. I told bailey that he needs to go. Bailey is the type of person that doesnt want to listen and that's what happened.
I'm not going to tell anyone how to do their job.. I just wanted to make sure to remind you that shit does happen.
Say it was one of on plaza's busiest night.. A huge, roid monkey was passed out in the same corner and lets say he was throwing up. Would you have done the same thing you did to the skinny goth guy?

I sure as hell wouldnt unless I had a second guy there to watch my back and even then I would be as nice as possible, ask to point where his friends are, give him a bottle of water. Talk to his friends in a mature fashion and get his friends to assist me with carrying the guy out.
Believe me, you're going to get much praise from his friends outside rather than dirty looks.
I do it at sonar, I did at lotus, I did it many times at the lamplighter and sometimes to HA folks which was scary as all fucking hell....

[ppcock]

I treat everyone like a person... unless they resist or throw a punch.. then you go ape shit and drag him out by his neck.


oh and the head doorman at the modern is trying to get me hours at plaza for weekdays.
he hasnt called yet, but there might be a possibility i'll be there for a few days a week.. but i'm sure now.. you will do everything in your power to avoid that since you probably hate me for giving you advice.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by ppcock

I'm not going to go to the club and complain to the doorstaff..

Well if your not willing to do that, then you shouldn't be calling us out on a message board and saying that I should be fired.

Say it was one of on plaza's busiest night.. A huge, roid monkey was passed out in the same corner and lets say he was throwing up. Would you have done the same thing you did to the skinny goth guy?

I already said I wouldn't. Small goth kid. I yell at him to wake up, and yell at him that I don't know his friends (mainly out of frustration).

And I'm not worried about getting dirty looks from people who would abandon their friend (who obviously needs help) by hiding him under the stairs at a busy club so they can enjoy their night. They aren't worth my time.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by ppcock

I treat everyone like a person... unless they resist or throw a punch.. then you go ape shit and drag him out by his neck.


oh and the head doorman at the modern is trying to get me hours at plaza for weekdays.
he hasnt called yet, but there might be a possibility i'll be there for a few days a week.. but i'm sure now.. you will do everything in your power to avoid that since you probably hate me for giving you advice.

Marty, it's the internet. I've known you for five years. I don't hate you at all. Next time you have a problem though. You know 5 diffrent ways to reach me privately to give me advice. You have to admit, calling me out on a message board saying I should be fired is a bullshit move.

On your first night, the drinks are on me.

[Phrenetic]

awww! we are all happy again!

[ppcock]

well, i dont think they hid him there.. he was standing in front of us most of the night. I think he just sat there to get a hold of the situation. Its not like we were purposely blocking him from view, i was trying to get that girl with the peircings all over her face..

but, frustration after 5 seconds of communication?????

[ppcock]

Originally Posted by NinjaBoy

Marty, it's the internet. I've known you for five years. I don't hate you at all. Next time you have a problem though. You know 5 diffrent ways to reach me privately to give me advice. You have to admit, calling me out on a message board saying I should be fired is a bullshit move.

I deleted that initial post, it was a dick move and I apologize..

When i was walking home, i thought about sending the pm and I knew you were going get all crazy when I called it out to a message board.
But at the same time, i think its knowledable for people to know, how to deal with people in certain situations.
especially since i get a lot of people wanting doorjobs here.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by ppcock

well, i dont think they hid him there.. he was standing in front of us most of the night. I think he just sat there to get a hold of the situation. Its not like we were purposely blocking him from view, i was trying to get that girl with the peircings all over her face..

but, frustration after 5 seconds of communication?????

Well, I didn't watch him all night, our relationship was 30 seconds. I see him passed out under the stairs on a box...

frustration after 5 seconds? yup. I'm sorry, but I'm the only barback/busser on. I don't have the paitence to hold his hand. He's a big boy. He's passed out he, won't go.

I didn't touch him at all. I yelled at him, "I don't know your fucking friend".

End of story.

[miss.myra]

honestly, i read the whole thing and i don't really think ninja did anything wrong.