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Jul 14, 03
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moving out
Hey... things have gotten really bad with my mom and i in the past few years. I have graduated now... just this past june... so i'm kind of at that age where i could move out if i really wanted to. I REALLLY want to, i cannot handle the emotional stress my mom puts on me everyday. I'm going to go nuts. I was just was wanting some feedback on how old other people were when they moved out, and how they became acustomed to living out on their own.... i also want to know about shit like... finding a room mate and fitting your budget to include rent etc.... please please write any advice you have because i need to do this. For me.
thanX ~haylz~ 
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Jul 15, 03
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ummmm... thanx.....
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Jul 15, 03
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I guess I'm lucky? My parents have always been pretty easy going and carefree towards me and my sisters...Although my Dad get's on my nerves really easy...
I live downstairs...I have the whole basement suite to myself...Free of rent...So I personally don't see myself moving out anytime soon...*haha* :c-tard: But back to topic...Make sure you have enough $$ budgeted to live on your own hun...It ain't easy I don't think...As for as roomates go? Does any of your friends wanna move out too? I personally would rather move in with someone I knew rather than a complete stranger of course... But whatever you decide on...Best of luck Hayley! :)
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Jul 15, 03
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Jul 15, 03
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Living on your own is awesome, but EXPENSIVE!
I moved out when I was 20 and if I wasn't able to keep a decent paying job, I'd be back home after a month. It can be done with little or no job, but you won't be able to maintain the lifestyle you're probably acustomed to. :keebler: Last edited by alkatraz; Jul 15, 03 at 02:01 PM.
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Jul 15, 03
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I moved out when I was 19 after I got a full time job and needed to be on the Skytrain line in order to get to it (go bus strike!). I've been on my own for over 2 years now... with a brief stint at home for a few months in the middle while I saved money. I've lived with roomates and without... if you can do it I strongly recommend living without roomates, however, this being the first time you've moved out I doubt this is possible. If you do live with roomates I'm going to warn you that if you live with close friends sadly it tends to ruin the relationship.
If you live on your own (no roomate) you're looking at rent being $400-600 depending where you want to live (mine's $570 just off the Drive). You'll need food so budget $200-300 for that a month. Then there's utilities... phone, hydro and cable if you want it. Phone bills range from $50-150 depending on how long you talk (that is if you have a cell phone and no land line which I advise b/c it's pointless to pay $50 a month for a land line you don't really use). Hydro's about $30 every two months and cable ranges from $20-80. You'll also need some money to go out and do things so you'll have to budget for that... this CANNOT be avoided or cut out othertwise you WILL go insane... say $100-200 a month. If you smoke/do drugs/drink you'll have to add that on as well... so we'll say $200/mth if you're a fairly regular smoker and you do drugs on occasion and get loaded a couple times a month. Say $30/mth for laundry because I highly doubt there'll be a washing machine that's free. If you drive add on insurance and gas (I don't havce a car so I have no idea about that one). No car... means you'll need a bus pass (most cost effective transporation) which'll cost $67/mth for one zone or $83/mth for 2 zone... all 3 zones is $120 I think. If you have a roomate things are a lil less expensive... rent goes down to $250-500 depending again where you live. Utilities are usually halved. Food is generally still about the same... you could save $50 or so though. So... Rent $250-600 Food $150-300 Utilities $50-200 Entertainment $100-200 Smoking, etc. $200 Laundry $30 Vehicle ?? Buss Pass $67-120 Total... $847-1650/mth (with smoking/drinkin/drugs) $647-1450/mth (no smoking/drinkin/drugs) Lets say you work a full time job at minimum wage... you gross about $1200/mth... about $300-400 of that will go to taxes and deductions. So you're left with $800-900/mth to live off of. This means you'll need to either have a couple jobs or a well paying ($11 and up) full time job. Hope that helped... any questions just ask.
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Jul 15, 03
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baby_bluez..
i know EXACTALLY how you feel. my mom is the exact same. she puts so much emotional stress on me its unbelievable. ive been out of high school for 3 years and tried to live at home.. so far all ive managed is becoming more depressed, upping my meds, taking a break from school..etc.etc. however, i cant afford to move out.. the real world is bloody expensive... and until i can save up enough so i know i can move out and never come back.. lets just hope thats soon. *LOL* good luck. and roommates..? just remember that living with someone is always a different story. i think theres only 2 people in this world that i could live with and we wouldnt kill each other. :)
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Jul 15, 03
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well my mum always made our relationship to be like we're roommates or friends rather then mum/daugher. so i thought it would be better if i didn't have the nag and rent, and had my own independance. besides, i really like to do things on my own with the help from others.
i have a f/t job and pay rent. i just did my budget up, and it's really not that difficult. it's only as difficult as you make it, and if you've never done it before, really, how difficult is it for you to pass judgement. rent: it really depends how much your job pays, if you're going to school, where's your source of income coming from. do you have roommates? how much are you roomies willing to pay? who has the bigger bedroom? what's your debt like? i won't even mention the cost. i think cera gives a pretty good estimate. utilities: try to get them included. but they're really not that much to pay for if you know how to budget, and don't let them build up. landline - 40 (this could be split so 20, it's more logical to have a cel) cel - 40 hydro - split (about 10$/month) internet - 40-50 visa/mastercard - ? drinking - depends how much you go out (i'd say for me about 40-200) ent - 150 food - 250 - 300 cat - 50 --->620 and that's not including rent! i think for you, if you want to go to school, stay at home. most parents aren't willing to pay for their kids education while they're living in the same city. that way you can work f/t and save to go to school.
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Jul 15, 03
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duuuuuuuuude you SO DO NOT!!!! want to live with friends. Things are rad beans for a while AND THEN things get bad ass. Live with strangers! I moved out for a bit when i was 15 and then again for like just about 2 months when i just turned 19. Both times I lived with best friends and it was shiesty. They would always be dipping into my closet and my make ups leaving me room a mess never putting nothing back using up all my hair products doing all my drugs with out asking etc etc etc.
You gotta be a super duper penny pincher and prepare urself to live off tomatoe soup and mista noods and spaghetto and bust ur ass working a full time and more than likely part time job as well just to make ends meet. goood luck budday!
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Jul 15, 03
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thanx guys for all ur advice seriouslly... i mean i knew it wasn't gonna be princess hayley living in her palace by herself with all the freedom and money in the world.... as far as $$ goes i got it MADE right now living at home... but i ask my self is it worth the depression my mom puts me into. NO. So i know that its gonna be a super hard toll... but thankyou for the figures on cost. I can live off mr. noodlez, kd, and tomato soup as long as i dont have to go thru this hell n e more. I work in a restaraunt about 4 days a week (the keg) i get 8.50/hr plus 3.5% of the weeks tip pool. I will also be getting a second retail day job. as it stands just with the 4 days or so of restaraunt working nights, i make about 258$ - 300$ every two weeks... so we're ranging from 500-600 a month. bleh.... n e wayz. ThX guys :)
Mylez..... lets givver! :P
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Jul 15, 03
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i moved out when i was 17 for a over year and i'm glad i did, it made me not crave freedom. i think if i hadnt had that year i'd be out living on my own right now, poor. For me tho it was all fun and games cuz money wasnt an issue at that time and everything was gravy.....
i think if you are going to be working as much as you would need to be able to move out then if you were home how much of your mom would you actually see anyways?
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Jul 15, 03
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If you do move in with a roomate make sure you lay down ground rules that are not to be broken. Who does what around the house, when you can have friends over, who does shopping cooking, cleaning and whatnot. If you get all this nailed down and you dont stray from the rules then living with a roomie becomes a hell of alot easier :)
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Jul 15, 03
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here's my advice
take a short course (ie. pharmacy technician, dental assitant, etc.) then when you find a job, move out i took the 5 month Pharmacy Technician course at Vancouver Community College, then got a job shortly after i graduated (1.5 months) but some people got a job right out of school so now i'm making $23/hr + benefits and it's great. i'm still living at home cuz my relationship with my parents isn't bad at all (except for when my mom gets on my case about being gay, but that doesn't happen too often), plus i'm still going back to school to do pharmacy at UBC so if i HAD to move out, i'm totally in the position to support myself and have a very comfortable lifestyle so take a course, find a good paying job, then move out...you've lived with your mom for 18+/- years, i'm sure you can tough it out for 1-2 more years at least you'll be financially secure -Andrew
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Jul 16, 03
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^well i am going to be taking hotel restaraunt managment that is a two year course and i want that to be my career. I love working in a restaraunt... i just dont wanna be a waitress forever. I've been talkin to ppz at work and one of my co-workers needs a roommate, so i might do that... another one of my... not really friends, more of an aquaintence has a house and her and her common law bf live in the basement and they rent out rooms upstairs for really cheap 150/mth so im checking into that too.
We'll see... i have lived w/ my mom for almost 18 yrs... but, i've BeEn toughing it out for 4. My mom doesn't even really want me anymore, she always says shes just gonna find a one bedroom and live her own life. plus i've already gotten used to buying all my own bathroom shit, bedroom shyt, clothes, sometimes food, cell bill, and extras (including bus pass) the only thing missing is rent. i've come to the desison its kinda like your first time... dont do it until you feel prepared and ready and mature enough for all the things that go with it..... well i feel ready. Thx for the help :)
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Jul 16, 03
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Try to get a job @ toys R us, from what I've heard they have kickass benefits.
I used to sell hotdogs in front of the Slurrey one once (whut :tounge1: ) but during their breaks I would talk to the employees, and I mean, these people are like Engineers and stuff during the week but during the weekend they work the minumum 8 or 16 or whatever how many hours it takes to qualify as a "part time" employee just for the benefits. Just a thought. :) EDIT: I mean as a part time job of course... also, from what I know they only take applications during September, to prepare for the busy Christmas season, and if they like you they keep you afterwards.
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Jul 16, 03
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im a big goal setting kinda girl.. and with moving out..damn i think about it everyday. i make pretty good money at work on top of money here and there that i get.. but i know its totally not enough. like many others have said.. make a smart choice and try to bare with your parents til ure education is over. if u're living at home you get a better rate on student loans too.
im planning to move out when im 20/21...which is when i should be graduated from EC. see if my career takes off and try to move out... male roommate is what i see for my future, and lots of cutting down in budgeting...such as smoking, entertainment, gas, and food. i have to admit living at home right now its a lot of luxury... i get a warm house to live in which is overly big, free room and furniture, food here and there (which i will miss a lot... i think when i move out im going to be cutting chinese food out of the budget) and family warmth and love...ew. my parents are getting old, and knock on wood.. i dont know the exact years that they'll be around..both their health is going downhill... so i may as well bare with them for as long as possible. the thing that i think will kill me the most when moved out...BILLS. i pay for all my own bills right now..and its already an arm and a leg... on top i pay my parents "thank you fee"... for food and shelter. life is already complicated...and it will get even more stressful and complex when you move out.
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