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Old Dec 19, 01
O.G. Sammy
 
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i'm doubting myself..even more than before

i know i have a problem with doubting myself or underestimating myself. call it whatever you want...low self esteem, etc. i really want to go to Ryerson next year for photography...i just don't know if i have what it takes to get in. there's a part of me that knows that in order to have a CHANCE, i have to apply...but then the other part of me is scared to apply because i don't handle rejections well. And it's not that i hate my work....i really like what i produce. but it's so subjective. what i like may not necessarily coincide with what others like. There's people who believe in me...and i'm sure there's people who doubt me. for every 10 people who believe in me...there's maybe 1 that doubts me...and yet, for some reason, that one person overpowers what 10 others think. And i know that it "only matters" if I like what i do. and that's true. but inevitably i have no say in whether or not i get accepted. Photography is (as stupid as this might sound) my passion in life. I don't think i could bare to see something i love so much be picked at by others with their relentless knives and forks. but the more i think about it...i think that i underestimate myself to sort of build up a wall? i guess my insecurity is a safety net. if that makes sense. then again nothing i'm saying makes sense. whatever. in short: self-doubt fucking sucks.
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Old Dec 19, 01
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I should introduce you to my cousin...Lil Athena's bf.....he's back in town for couple weeks.....

He left here in the summer to go to Ryerson and I don't think he's having a good time there.....it was always his "life long" dream to make it there.....and I'm not too sure that the application and acceptance part was as hard as he thought it was......but I think the atmosphere is kind of a downer or something?!

p.s....you have nothing to fear but fear itself. Once you overcome it, your fear of rejection, there is just hope.

*Jen*
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Old Dec 20, 01
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[breezy postin under roxi's account]

Sammy, I totally think you have what it takes to be a very successful photographer!.. and I know exactly how you feel about having this passion but doubting or underestimating your ability.. I'm the exact way....
But as the quote says "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take"... and if you love photography so much, don't let your fears hold you back...Give it all you got. And sure some people will pick apart or not relate to your style, but then look @ Van Gogh and many other artists who had to put up with people saying it was not "art" they were creating... yet, now they are regarded as highly talented and influential artists! Not only do you have incredible talent, but also the love for your work... and that is obvious... when you apply, I'm sure they'll c that in the work you produce... so have confidence, and even if for sum cracked-out reason the ppl are blind and don't accept you, that doesn't mean there wont be other chances for you... Don't let anyone hold you back from doing what you love~
good luck!
~breezy
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Old Dec 20, 01
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yeah dood cheer up man, we all have our slumps! I know for a fact you got talent man, and if you love photography, then go for it, as a wise man once told me "its better to strike out, then to not go to bat at all" that may not the be EXACT wording, but it paints the picture man. I believe in you sammy, for whatever amount that helps, icq me, I got a present for ya =)

Myles.
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Old Dec 20, 01
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Sammy, if its your dream to attend Ryerson, then you should apply. There will be always people who will doubt you. And those people I bet don't know you enough and can't see your talents. No one likes rejection, but it is better to have tried than not tried at all.

If you ever get a show @ a muesuem I will be one of the many standing in line to get tickets to attend.

Good luck.

:Power-P:
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Old Dec 20, 01
O.G. Sammy
 
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thanks guys...well today i actually started getting my portfolio together. we'll see what happens i guess....

thanks again though
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Old Dec 20, 01
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dood...

you're like totally accepted alrighty
you've got such great original talent..IT'S INSANE!!
you know, me and you will be there..maybe not me next year...but i'll come later..hahaha :034:
i talked to my friend mike who is back from christmas holidays and he's at ryerson for photography. he said it's really fun....competitive to get in, but i know you have a really good chance!
talk to you later..Call me when you get this crazy kid
Alexis~
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Old Dec 22, 01
i really look like this!
 
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remember, Faith will take you farther than DOUBT can ever take you..
it's true it's true.. ;)

you're going to have to face rejection at one point in your life, why not now? and you probably won't even have to face it any way! but anyhoo...

I can't say I don't know what you mean. Lately I've been really thinking hard about trying to get into Emily Carr, but due to what every one says about Emily Carr and just the fact that I'm not your ultimate artist, I doubt myself at times.. My art teacher has faith in me, but I'm not so sure if I have much faith in myself. Which makes me a hypocrite to all I said above, but I know for a fact that those lines are true...

Perhaprs neither of us aren't as confident about our work as much as we think we are...?
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Old Dec 22, 01
O.G. Sammy
 
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yeah...sounds like both of us aren't too confident about our artwork. i mean...i do like my stuff but i'm just to preoccupied with worrying about what other people will think...when, in the grand scheme of things, what others think is irrelevant. i dunno.
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Old Dec 24, 01
i really look like this!
 
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i was thinkin bout this topic a couple nights ago and I think... that the reason why other people's opinions really do matter at times is because of the fact that our, (well mine at least) artwork is a means of self-expression..

and when some one critisizes my artwork in any way, it's almost like having my thoughts and feelings critisized... It's like being critisized for who you are..

For me, art is a way to express myself freely without thinking about limits.. When I paint I don't care what any one thinks because it's all about me. Even I can't put into words what it means because it isn't a poem. It's art. But it itself is a statement...

Maybe it's a selfish hobby, but see, that doesn't matter to me.

*i dunno, just rambles*

but I hope that one day I'll have a better definition to who I am, and once achieved, be able to express that in my art, and develop my own style....

sorry for the "typical" reply... i hope you go for it ;)
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Old Dec 25, 01
O.G. Sammy
 
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took the words right out of my mouth
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Old Dec 27, 01
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Quote:
Originally posted by Twiggy
thanks guys...well today i actually started getting my portfolio together. we'll see what happens i guess....

thanks again though
i am glad that you are getting your stuff together. best of luck to you.
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Old Dec 27, 01
blest w/ chest
 
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Originally posted by yoko*
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For me, art is a way to express myself freely without thinking about limits.. When I paint I don't care what any one thinks because it's all about me. Even I can't put into words what it means because it isn't a poem. It's art. But it itself is a statement...

if your art is all about you then why would you care what anyone eles thinks?

art is something that you should do for yourself,as it is an expression of who you are. it is great if someone eles enjoys that art too, but do not get discouraged if somebody eles puts it down.

there are over a million people on this earth and you can not please everyone of them, so work hard to please just one (that would be you) and do what makes you happy.
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Old Dec 27, 01
JUNGALITHP MAATHIV
 
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cool.
A serious post from frogprincess.

:)


I agree too. Any sort of artistic things you do (painting, drawing, acting, singing, musicmaking, cinematography, metal art, etc) should be an expression of yourself. It IS kind of hard to completly disregard people's negative critizisms of it though, but you should try your best to disregard them. I'm talking just pure bashing of your work though, bashing done without really anything to back it up. Not constructive critizism.
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Old Dec 28, 01
O.G. Sammy
 
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i'm with you on that rytalin...there's a fine line between constructive criticism and blatent bashing. it's just hard at times to differentiate between the two when it's your work under the microscope. you know what i mean?

but thanks frog princess. yeah hopefully everything will turn out. i'll let you guys know. i already have 7 concrete peices for my portfolio for ryerson...just deciding on the remaining peices. i'm not sure if i should send in a full photography portfolio (cuz after all i am applying to their photography programme) or if i should include some of my actual art (ie. charcoal, conte crayon, prisma colors). cuz on the actual application form, they don't specify what exact they want (medium wise). so i'm thinking that perhaps having a portfolio that includes a number of media would be more beneficial??
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Old Dec 30, 01
i really look like this!
 
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yoko* is a jewel in the roughyoko* is a jewel in the roughyoko* is a jewel in the roughyoko* is a jewel in the roughyoko* is a jewel in the rough
yeah whoa!! i just realized that in that post i am contradicting myself. thanks for pointing that out for me frogprincess.

well what I mean is that WHILE I am painting it is all to myself, because I do it myself and while I am painting I do not think about what others think because it is what I do for myself.

But when it comes to showing other people (or them seeing it by chance) and if bashing comes in then that's a lil more than a lil hurtful..

if you know what I mean...

Right now I paint/draw for myself and enjoy it. But I still htink I have yet to learn about my own style... be able to define it a little better. I guess because of the fact that it's still really fragile some criticism can realy be hurtful. ;)

and that's what I meant...

"do not get discouraged if some one puts it down"

it's hard not to at this point. I've recently just started to take art more seriously... I've never realy seriously thought about getting into to the artsy arts until now.. And even now I feel that it might be too late to stat applying... I regret the years that I'd spent completely in doubt of what I could do, and even now I still do

;)

thx for the repies either way. sumthin to think aobut.
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