f***ing speeding ticket points

[Technix]

Originally Posted by MC Hammered

I didn't pay $1600US for mine.

I bought mine at Performance Car Stereo which is an authorized dealer. I got mine installed with tax for $1800 and it is worth every penny. If you need a hookup let me know as I know the sales manager there. The installer is also one of the best I have seen.

Considering the ride you have and its potential I would strongly suggest you get some detection/protection as cops with rada and laser guns will target you instead of the Honda beside you.

That's great and all but it won't matter if you're actually speeding or racing (and get caught)...

Wouldn't be surprised if they are banned from being used in cars in the near future...

[Hot Karl]

what can i say, i'm not 16. i've got enough self control to do the limit.

[Grapes]

That is my point. I am not a wreckless driver

Holy fuck. Enough with the excuses.

IF YOU SPEED REGULARLY YOU ARE A RECKLESS DRIVER. (I'd consider "speeding" to be 20km or more over the limit..) Yes, I know, you're Mario Andretti out there, but even if you're a brilliant driver, speeding does not allow you to account for the *unexpected*. If someone pulls a bonehead move in front of you (IE slamming on the brakes to look at a pretty flower) then you have given yourself significantly less time to react to that circumstance. You're putting yourself at risk of a collision, and all the driving skills in the world might not be enough.

Way to insert the play on words all on your own, by the way. Keep speeding and you won't be "wreck-less" for long.

[Hot Karl]

Originally Posted by Avana

It seems like a fine, for getting a fine, is excessive.

well, it seems that 1 fine isn't getting the job done.

besides, it's not like 1 ticket = points. your 2nd ticket is the reason you'll be charged with points. (assuming you've got a class 5) so the system does let you off the hook provided your 1 ticket/year isn't for anything crazy.

it's supposed to be a crazy jump as far as fines/points on your 2nd ticket to teach folks a lesson.

Originally Posted by Grapes

Holy fuck. Enough with the excuses.

IF YOU SPEED REGULARLY YOU ARE A RECKLESS DRIVER. (I'd consider "speeding" to be 20km or more over the limit..) Yes, I know, you're Mario Andretti out there, but even if you're a brilliant driver, speeding does not allow you to account for the *unexpected*. If someone pulls a bonehead move in front of you (IE slamming on the brakes to look at a pretty flower) then you have given yourself significantly less time to react to that circumstance. You're putting yourself at risk of a collision, and all the driving skills in the world might not be enough.

Way to insert the play on words all on your own, by the way. Keep speeding and you won't be "wreck-less" for long.

Both instances I was doing less than 20km per hour over the speed limit. I believe the first was 68 and the second was 65. I am not a constant speeder. Both instances were on Knight Street. The one street in Vancouver they are cracking down on.

I am 3 months shy of my 27th birthday, for every year that I have had my drivers license, I have owned my own car. My first two speeding tickets in my entire life in one year, on a street that has constant radar is hardly indicative of someone who is an excessive speeder.

I am not making excuses, nor am I playing on words. I know I was over the speed limit.

But thank you for making me see the error of my ways Dave.

[Goodfellow]

Originally Posted by Grapes

Way to insert the play on words all on your own, by the way. Keep speeding and you won't be "wreck-less" for long.

do do *tsh*

Originally Posted by Goodfellow

do do *tsh*

shut up, mr drive with no license, no insurance, high, lord knows what else, punk.

[Goodfellow]

Originally Posted by Avana

shut up, mr drive with no license, no insurance, high, lord knows what else, punk.

When did I drive without insurance? Maybe I joked about it but I never actually did it.

ill admit though, I did drive without my licence a couple times before realizing it wasn't worth it. driving without a piece of plastic doesn't mean shit though, basically the same thing as you still driving after getting 6 points.

but its ok, Id be bitter too if I was really fat. go drive your POS auto minivan off a bridge. =)

Originally Posted by Goodfellow

When did I drive without insurance? Maybe I joked about it but I never actually did it.

ill admit though, I did drive without my licence a couple times before realizing it wasn't worth it. driving without a piece of plastic doesn't mean shit though, basically the same thing as you still driving after getting 6 points.

but its ok, Id be bitter too if I was really fat. go drive your POS auto minivan off a bridge. =)

you know the fat joke is old, get some new steez. besides, I have lost the fat, you still reek of stupid.

And yeah, you more than posted and bragged about driving with no insurance, and a suspended license. I can find the post if you need some clarification.

[Ree Fresh]

Originally Posted by Goodfellow

When did I drive without insurance? Maybe I joked about it but I never actually did it.

ill admit though, I did drive without my licence a couple times before realizing it wasn't worth it. driving without a piece of plastic doesn't mean shit though, basically the same thing as you still driving after getting 6 points.

but its ok, Id be bitter too if I was really fat. go drive your POS auto minivan off a bridge. =)

You know when someone has to bring in a fat joke that they ant got nothing.

Anyways, I feel for you even more knowing you only did 65 and 68 Avana. Thats harsh. I love how the ppl who dont dirve or dont have their licence are the ones going "haha, your a wreakless driver".

I think the system we have is unjustified. Im more acident prone driving to work in the morning tierd with a half defrosted car than I am after two drinks. But what am I more likly to get in toruble for?

There are some real wreakless driver out there and some stupid ones... however they inforce the rules and start to set up traps so they can bring in more $$$ in tickets and point fines becuase they know no one is perfect.

[cinist]

i've only ever gotten two tickets and i honestly believe they were directly related to my being in the company of a specific person. once i was with this person at the time i recieved the ticket and the second time i had been with them the night before, i haven't seen this person since and i plan not too. karma kills

[Hot Karl]

Originally Posted by R Wellbelove

I think the system we have is unjustified. Im more acident prone driving to work in the morning tierd with a half defrosted car than I am after two drinks. But what am I more likly to get in toruble for?

There are some real wreakless driver out there and some stupid ones... however they inforce the rules and start to set up traps so they can bring in more $$$ in tickets and point fines becuase they know no one is perfect.

it absolutely blows my mind that you are teaching todays' youth.

if your car is frosted over, you get out there and warm it up. this is called being responsible. kinda like how to prevent speeding. if you leave for work 5-10 mins early, chances are you won't need to speed at all.

as far as the speed trap. save the drama. knight street is well known for being a spot that folks speed/race on. on top of the fact that VPD was very vocal in letting the public know that there would be hardcore crackdowns on knight street.

if folks don't heed these warnings, wtf else are we supposed to do for them? really, what else do they want? big neon signs on knight street that say "cops are probably lurking around here?"

[cubed]

Originally Posted by Hot Karl

it absolutely blows my mind that you are teaching todays' youth.

because driver's etiquette is high on the list of provincially examined courses.

you're reaching karl and you know it.

Originally Posted by Hot Karl

it absolutely blows my mind that you are teaching todays' youth.

if your car is frosted over, you get out there and warm it up. this is called being responsible. kinda like how to prevent speeding. if you leave for work 5-10 mins early, chances are you won't need to speed at all.

Wow, maybe you missed the context in which Rhiannon posted that. She was clearly making an example of a hypothetical situation, of what I see EVERYDAY on the roads, and you use it to personally attack her?! Nice try.

You are right, a well known speed trap that is set up on Knight Street is no excuse. But does that mean I should slow down on Knight as a result and speed everywhere else? Hardly. I was cruising with the flow of traffic, they were pulling everyone over that they could. This is not an excuse, I could have stayed right at 50.

If I was an excessive speeder, with accidents to boot, I would say throw the book at me. But my record more than speaks for itself. I have owned my own cars since I was 16. I just bought my second brand new car. I have the highest discount on my insurance that is possible to get, I am a roadstar and I get a discount for having a safe driving record.

2 tickets doing around the speed that everyone in Vancouver does does not mean I am driving around a loaded weapon looking to kill small children and animals.

ps - the average speed on vancouver streets is closer to 75 kms per hour.

Originally Posted by cubed

because driver's etiquette is high on the list of provincially examined courses.

you're reaching karl and you know it.

You might want to get a mega-phone, I don't think he is going to hear you from his high horse.

[cubed]

Up on a high horse?

I thought his head was firmly planted in between the cheeks of a clydesdale.

Originally Posted by cubed

Up on a high horse?

I thought his head was firmly planted in between the cheeks of a clydesdale.

NO DONKEY'S!

[stephen_c]

unpleasantly surprised by comments & replies so far.
aren't some of u over 30+ yrs old?
u should kno better.

cops are pretty lienant.
they usually don't issue tix unless ur 15+ over the speed limit.
1 citation every few yrs is normal,
but if u get more than that
u should slow down no matter how good of a driver u think u are.









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[galaxie]

blah blah blah
speeding tickets suck
I just paid a $276 USD one today that I got coming back from Seattle

are you going to tell me that I'm wreckless and endangering the lives of others for going 91 mph in a 60 mph zone at 1:30am when there was not a single other car IN SIGHT?

speeding while weaving in and out of traffic, following too close, etc. is unsafe. speeding while following the flow of traffic IMO, is fine. most accidents I have seen have been caused by people who are NOT PAYING ATTENTION ie. on the phone, text messaging, reading a freaking book (I swear), etc.

[stephen_c]

some of u are dying to end up in the heart-2-heart forum.

[MC Hammered]

Originally Posted by Technix

That's great and all but it won't matter if you're actually speeding or racing (and get caught)...

Wouldn't be surprised if they are banned from being used in cars in the near future...

Even if they are banned the officer has to prove that the unit was on and actually interfered with the signal. That is why they kill switch and auto-off in 5 seconds that are built into the devices are there.

As for me knowing do 140kph and get a verified laser hit by an officer?

Well... without proof that I was actually driving at that speed makes it hard to make to penalize doesn it? :c-tard:

[MC Hammered]

Originally Posted by Hot Karl

it absolutely blows my mind that you are teaching todays' youth.

if your car is frosted over, you get out there and warm it up. this is called being responsible. kinda like how to prevent speeding. if you leave for work 5-10 mins early, chances are you won't need to speed at all.

My sisters 1 month old Mazda minivan has $9000 damage because some stupid female driver was driving her car with frosted windows.

Pushed my sister car 20 feet and ended up flipping her car in the process.

She even apologized for doing so.

Just fucking retarded.

[Technix]

Originally Posted by MC Hammered

Even if they are banned the officer has to prove that the unit was on and actually interfered with the signal. That is why they kill switch and auto-off in 5 seconds that are built into the devices are there.

As for me knowing do 140kph and get a verified laser hit by an officer?

Well... without proof that I was actually driving at that speed makes it hard to make to penalize doesn it? :c-tard:

Well what I meant was if they are banned, police wouldn't need to prove anything. They would be banned. Restricted. You would be in possession of a restricted device on a public road/highway.

I'm sure one of these days there will be a crackdown. They are already banned in many major countries and throughout the US...

Police have long since lobbied for these devices to be banned because they serve no other real useful purpose other than to detect if one's speed is being monitored (and who else other than police would monitor speed?)....

FYI cops don't need to radar/laser your speed, if they see you obviously going above the speed limit they will pursue, and ticket. We should be lucky they don't ticket for going 1-10km over the posted limits, even though they can... :p

[OwNeD]

Originally Posted by Technix

FYI cops don't need to radar/laser your speed, if they see you obviously going above the speed limit they will pursue, and ticket. We should be lucky they don't ticket for going 1-10km over the posted limits, even though they can... :p

Yes, and their word holds up in court too. Apparently they do have training to visually detect the speed of your vehicle.

[OwNeD]

Originally Posted by R Wellbelove

Anyways, I feel for you even more knowing you only did 65 and 68 Avana. Thats harsh. I love how the ppl who dont dirve or dont have their licence are the ones going "haha, your a wreakless driver".

How can that be harsh? Speed limit is 50 if the cops really wanted to they can give out tickets for anyone driving over at 50.1.

The whole issue here is that someone thinks they need a break for being such a good driver for so long and just having a bad year.

The break was the first ticket. If that didn't teach you the lesson for the year then you deserve a higher fine the next and the next.

If your a savvy driver you'd know where all the traps are and where you can get away with things. Its all part of the driving community.

Having your licence is a privilege not a right. Because of that you are at the mercy of those who uphold the law and the people that insure your vehicles.