Christmas in my FACE ALL DAY

[crookedking]

Originally Posted by ill-esha

ps, jews are fun, all our holidays involve drinking copious amounts of wine instead of buying copious amounts of crap

i was raised in a christian household so i'm not going to pretend that i know everything about the jewish religion, but don't you guys get days and days worth of presents during hanukah?

[crookedking]

Originally Posted by ill-esha

my mom isn't even christian but she puts up a tree and does the present thing i think as a custom she adopted when she came to canada.

decorating the tree was a pagan tradition that christians then took because they wanted the germanic pagans to feel somewhat at ease with being converted.

Originally Posted by ill-esha

fu jesus

wow. that's pretty harsh. you don't see anybody on here knocking moses. what did jesus ever do to you? all he wanted from people was to be kind to one another thereby making this a better place to live. wasn't it moses who said "an eye for an eye"?

[rawb]

Originally Posted by crookedking

i was raised in a christian household so i'm not going to pretend that i know everything about the jewish religion, but don't you guys get days and days worth of presents during hanukah?

DONT YOU EXCHANGE GIFTS ON PURIM TOO?

[rawb]

ALL I REALLY NOW ABOUT JEWISH PEOPLE IS THAT THEY DON'T FUCKING ROLL ON SHOMER FUCKING SHABBOS

[hardstylin]

you guys are fucked.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by crookedking

i was raised in a christian household so i'm not going to pretend that i know everything about the jewish religion, but don't you guys get days and days worth of presents during hanukah?

Yeah, but the presents are all crap. Didn't you see that Hannukah Harry episode of SNL back in the Jon Lovitz days?

[ebbomega]

Almost as annoying as having Christmas shoved in your face are the all angry jews complaining about having Christmas shoved in their faces.

Wasn't there a South Park episode about this?

[crookedking]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Yeah, but the presents are all crap. Didn't you see that Hannukah Harry episode of SNL back in the Jon Lovitz days?

the presents are all crap? then thank God i'm a christian.

[FireWire]

Originally Posted by hardstylin

you guys are fucked.

This is breaking news to me.

[ill-esha]

i apologize, you're right.

instead of fu jesus, i should say, fu jesus-following-people-who-have-turned-a-good-premise-into-a-shitty-pushy-religion.

jesus would probably be horrified at some of the shit done under his name.. same with other religions.. but you don't see the muslims forcing me to fast during ramadan!

That presents during hanukkah thing i think is a protocol designed by the Jews of Thornhill/Richmond Hill/York/other places as such to shut the yaps of their spoiled little princesses. I don't get presents for Hanukkah and neither does any other Jew I know..

..then again, I don't know rich people. My family's from the ghetto, yo! And I mean the Polish WWII ghetto.

[rawb]

Originally Posted by ill-esha

but you don't see the muslims forcing me to fast during ramadan!

IF YOU LIVED IN A MUSLIM COUNTRY YOU PROBABLY WOULD

AS IM SURE ANY CHRISTIANS WOULD BE BOMBARDED WITH JEWISH HOLIDAYS IF THEY LIVED IN ISREAL

YOU JUST NEED TO MOVE, AT LEAST YOUR 'PERSECUTION' IS OUT OF LOVE AND YOU GET GIFTS. IT COULD BE SOMEONE KICKING YOUR ASS LIKE IN LESS TOLERANT COUNTRIES.

[crookedking]

Originally Posted by ill-esha

i apologize, you're right.

instead of fu jesus, i should say, fu jesus-following-people-who-have-turned-a-good-premise-into-a-shitty-pushy-religion.

don't worry, i'm sure he'll forgive you.

Originally Posted by ill-esha

but you don't see the muslims forcing me to fast during ramadan!

well, this IS a christian based country (i'm probably going to get it from all the atheists after THAT one), so of course you wouldn't have muslim people forcing their fasts on you. if you were in a muslim country you might find things to be a bit different though. i've never been to a predominantly muslim country before, so i can't say for sure.

[robyn]

guys why do poor people hate christmas so much

[tango]

i hate christmas cuz its an overly commercialized time of year where its expected to go and spend money on ppl whom you would normally not buy shit for. plus its over the top on the religiosity of it. my family wants to read the bible xmas morning before we open presents... PLUS... those lame songs are f'n ANNOYING!!!!
everyone says its all about the christmas spirit, but if we were all decent humans year 'round, there would be no need to get in the 'spirit' of christmas.
cant people be nice and generous and all that all year rather than cramming it all in at the end of december?
bah humbug, xmas... be nice all the time.

[cubed]

Originally Posted by R Wellbelove

I dont know if you heard the story about the jews asking for a manoura to be put in the airport since it was over christmas decorated... instead the airport desided to just take down all the christmas decorations and hav enothing up :(

Personaly I'm not a fan of the santas and other tacky christmas icons. However I do believe it is a great time to celebrate winter and the holidays. I love all the lights as it really brightens up everyones spirt in these dark, cold, rainy days.

If your jewish or have a diffrent way of celebrating this time of year... I highly sugest and suport you decorating in your own culture/religion. I think ppl are just more into the spirt of decorating and have an excuses to celebrate, but feel like it can only be christmas decorating. I grew up in a complex with a lot of jews... my mom told me you coudl tell who was jewish becuase they either had just white or just blue lights up. They may not of been celebrating christmas, but we were all still celebrating th etime of year.

Just wait until you fly into JFK, last year when I was there they had a giant minoura illuminated on the side of the airport.

I've got nothing but love for the Heebs.

[ill-esha]

That's exactly it though. It wouldn't bother me just about the holiday in itself. What bothers me is that I'm forced to participate in this meaningless consumerism. I would rather my family was totally religious and just read the bible and didn't believe in xmas presents, than being nonchalant about the religious aspect but steadfast on the buying shit factor.

I suppose next year I could just plan to be out of town. but then I'd probably get home and there'd be a stack of wrapped crap from everybody waiting for me to open.

I just don't want to do this! I thought I'd have more autonomy over the holidays I chose to celebrate when I became an adult but obviously not.

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by ill-esha

That's exactly it though. It wouldn't bother me just about the holiday in itself. What bothers me is that I'm forced to participate in this meaningless consumerism. I would rather my family was totally religious and just read the bible and didn't believe in xmas presents, than being nonchalant about the religious aspect but steadfast on the buying shit factor.

I suppose next year I could just plan to be out of town. but then I'd probably get home and there'd be a stack of wrapped crap from everybody waiting for me to open.

I just don't want to do this! I thought I'd have more autonomy over the holidays I chose to celebrate when I became an adult but obviously not.

Re-gift. :teef:

[fritz]

hey guys if you act angry all year then people don't try to push any rituals on you because they are too busy second-guessing themselves out of the fear you will point out how stupid they are

it is way less work than joining some minority religion that is perpetually surprised that everyone can't be different

[Capt.AA]

lol

Merry Christmas to you all:)

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by crookedking

the presents are all crap? then thank God i'm a christian.

Dude, you even seen a Dredle? It's like a beyblade without the rip cord.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by cubed

Just wait until you fly into JFK, last year when I was there they had a giant minoura illuminated on the side of the airport.

I've got nothing but love for the Heebs.

CHALLA!!!!!

[Clayton.]

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by ill-esha

That's exactly it though. It wouldn't bother me just about the holiday in itself. What bothers me is that I'm forced to participate in this meaningless consumerism. I would rather my family was totally religious and just read the bible and didn't believe in xmas presents, than being nonchalant about the religious aspect but steadfast on the buying shit factor.

I suppose next year I could just plan to be out of town. but then I'd probably get home and there'd be a stack of wrapped crap from everybody waiting for me to open.

I just don't want to do this! I thought I'd have more autonomy over the holidays I chose to celebrate when I became an adult but obviously not.

See, the whole gift-giving thing in december has roots far past christmas. People feel like shite all through December and the last week of december is usually for sharing, giving and celebration, then we can hibernate until Groundhog day and not give a fuck about anybody outside our households.

I don't give gifts at Christmas because I believe in Christ and that he Died for our Sins and that he's the Son Of God and all that shite. Frankly, Jesus probably wasn't even born on Christmas. Shephards wouldn't be minding flocks by night in the Winter in Israel. I give gifts because it's a good way to tell friends and family "This is what my last year has manifested for me." Whether it be an album I really dug, or a liquor I discovered this year, or clothes of a fashion I'm really feeling... It's an excuse, but it's a good one. Because who the hell doesn't feel shitty in December? The days are shorter, people don't know how to drive, going downtown is always crowded and a hassle, people in general are bitter all over, etc. etc. etc. Why not counterbalance it with celebrations and giving at the end?

Frankly, I'm not Christian (even though I like a lot of Jesus' teachings) but I still celebrate this holiday not simply because it's expected of me, but because it gives me an opportunity to be nice to others.

[tiedye]

Just remember, there's always festivus for the rest of us.

[Grapes]

Originally Posted by rawb

YOU JUST NEED TO MOVE, AT LEAST YOUR 'PERSECUTION' IS OUT OF LOVE

And/or capitalism............