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Old Nov 12, 02
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i understand what your saying about the clubs and bars closing at a certain time, but ppl go there expecting it and knowing that it is going to close at a certain time, and knowing that they probably are going to get smashed or whatnot. therefore they can either plan a ride home or take public transit as i'm sure some it is still running at that time. and you said it yourself that most of the ppl there are legally allowed, maybe that is why there is an age limit for drinking and going to bars, because us dumb inconsiderate, twinkie, kids aren't mature, experienced, or smart enough to know how to deal with the consequences of our actions. i personally don't think age has much to do with maturity and responsibilty or experience for that matter, i'm 17 (almost 18, 6 more days :cake: ) and i am smarter, more mature, and more experienced than some 20 something year olds that i know, but society seems to think otherwise, so they put restricitons on things....
Ya, people go to clubs and bars and know it will close at 2, but it still doesn't stop people from driving home drunk and what not. But the bars close at 2am, whether the people are drunk or not. Transit has stopped running (skytrain stops around 1am, so do buses) so by 2am, they're only way home is a car, or taxi. or to walk.

But you see, if this drunk person from the club gets stranded, it's there fault. They took the risk of getting drunk and not having a way home, knowing that it would close at 2.

Now, if your going to an illegal party, you should plan as well. Why? BECAUSE ITS ILLEGAL. Meaning, with this illegal party come the risk of it getting shut down at anytime! be it midnight, 2:30 or 4am. Anytime. Now if one choses to do illegal drugs, and get stranded, that's there fault. The police don't keep the clubs open cause oh no, someone might get stranded. (and these clubs are legal) why should they keep an illegal party open because some people might get stranded??

Yes, it would be nice if they did, but it's the law. it needs to be accepted. and people need to understand that it is one of the risks of attending an illegal party. and if they choose to do the drugs, their fault.
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Old Nov 12, 02
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First off yeah the cops where doing there jobs by shutting down illeagle activities but is it not also a cops job to keep people safe???
How is it safe to send a bunch of teens (in general) out into the rain??? expecially when they know that most of them where high!!! Anyways, if they had shut it down when the sky trains where running that would be one thing but as far as i'm concerned, they where putting us all in harms way.
My ride home was the sky-train thank god for good friends with cars or i would have been stranded for hours and probably be in bed now with a flew.
yeah some times the cops are handy but right now, I say fuck the pigs!!!
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Anyways, if they had shut it down when the sky trains where running that would be one thing but as far as i'm concerned, they where putting us all in harms way.


Technically, aren't you putting yourself in harm's way, by doing drugs!




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yeah some times the cops are handy but right now, I say fuck the pigs!!!
Damn't people who do their own job's right!
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That does not answer my question. Try again.

alright i obviously didn't understand your question then, would you mind repeating it for me please
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Old Nov 12, 02
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so they sent you all out in the rain.

big deal, you know it can happen so you should be prepared for that when you go to an illegal party.

And seriously, it's not like the second you step outside your in danger. People go outside (even at late hours like that) but the police don't stop them and tell them to go home because it's not safe. And if you didn't dress warmly enough and got the flu, your fault. Not the police's. They aren't the sickness police here. It's like if you were walking around in a t-shirt when it's snowing, they aren't going to send you home because "you might get sick" that's bullshit.

They are there to protect you when you are in danger. By simply sending you outside does not put you in immediate danger. They are doing their job by shutting down the illegal party. It is not their job to make sure you all get home safely. That's yours.
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I'm asking you to just confirm: Are you mad that the police busted an illegal activity? Are You mad that they forced irresponsible drug users onto the street with nowhere to go?

I hope that's not what your mad at...
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Originally posted by sidewayz luv:
First off yeah the cops where doing there jobs by shutting down illeagle activities but is it not also a cops job to keep people safe???
How is it safe to send a bunch of teens (in general) out into the rain??? expecially when they know that most of them where high!!! Anyways, if they had shut it down when the sky trains where running that would be one thing but as far as i'm concerned, they where putting us all in harms way.
My ride home was the sky-train thank god for good friends with cars or i would have been stranded for hours and probably be in bed now with a flew.
yeah some times the cops are handy but right now, I say fuck the pigs!!!
My god, SHUT UP! It would of been your own fucken' fault if you had to skytrain it home, so shut up. It's not the cops fault, the ones that busted your party weren't the ones that made the laws, they just enforce it.

HOW ABOUT YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION: How is it safe to harbour a "bunch of teens (in general)" that could possibly be high on drugs, or drunk ar a rave?? Security?? First Aid?? Look at this from outside of the box, think of something other than your hedonistic desire for partying fun. Security and First Aid can only do so much, FOR FUCK'S SAKE, RAVES WEREN'T MEANT TO BE SAFE OR LEGAL!!
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Old Nov 12, 02
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I'm breaking this down simply.

Your mad cause the police busted the party and sent everyone home cause they were clearly on drugs and breaking the local bylaws. They should have thought it out, and realized that these high kids, didn't plan ahead, and need to get home somehow.

So you want the police, to basically let your illegal activity continue because it is not convinet, to end the party due to the fact you were reckless and did drugs without a way to get home.

Am I correct? I hope not. Please respond with your explination.

I look forward to hearing many well written responses from you.
I am compling a "best of Jungle Bunny" thread. I need to ask a favor though.

Could you please post more often with the same dry wit, and snappy reponses that I've grown to love. I would appreciate that very much.

i think we have a winner with this "debate"

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Old Nov 12, 02
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[quote]Originally posted by NinjaBoy:


Technically, aren't you putting yourself in harm's way, by doing drugs!


I wasn't doing drugs but my friends where so actually they where putting me in harms way!!! but hey i still had fun hanging at the sky train with everyone!!!

besides, I'm not mad at the cops for doing there jobs, I'm annoyed that I had to stnd in the rain. I dont mind sky training it home only problem is I can't if there are no sky trains!!!! I think that the sky trains should run all night. Even if they only run every hour or something. At least it would have saved my ass from freezin in the rain

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Old Nov 12, 02
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Yeah cops are just doing their jobs. But there are those cool ones who have found a group of us in the summer drinking and blazing illegally and just tell us to go somewhere where we won't be as loud and annoying to residents living in the area. Some of them understand because they went through all the shit were doing now, partying and drinking and whatever els. Then there are those other cops who probably didn't any of that and don't know what to expect when they come across a big group of kids so they act too harsh or power trip when the time comes, but believe it or not there are situations when they don't act hard enough. They can be alright as well as pricks, what pisses me off though are the ones who abuse their powers and trip out like they own everything........

For example this one time this girl was having a house party. Everyone was inside with the exception of a few people, the music was on, people were drinking and smoking. Damn cops just ran in the place and kicked everyone out with no warning or nothing, legally they can't do that and they werent even being nice about it, they just started grabbing people by the arm and bringing them outside. For one they can't be on the property like that and two they can't just grab people and bring them out.......so during times like that their all a bunch of fag pigs who no one likes and protray themselves as being assholes.

But then when that rave was being broken up, you gotta look at it from their point of view.......everything there was illegall, if they did nothing aobut it and something bad happend and word got around that they knew about it then they become partly responsible and could lose their jobs.

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I'm asking you to just confirm: Are you mad that the police busted an illegal activity? Are You mad that they forced irresponsible drug users onto the street with nowhere to go?

I hope that's not what your mad at...
at first, when i started this thread, yeah i was a little pissed that the cops busted the party because i haven't been to on in a while, alot of ppl i hadn't seen for a long time were there and i wanted to spend a little more time with them. I realize i don't need a rave to see my friends, or spend time with them, tec. but it did make it a lot easier. On the other hand i also understand that they were just doing their job, but some cops have let parties go on, as well as other illegal activity.
when i first started this thread i was simply saying that i didn't think it was right for the city, because they are the ones who make the laws and bylaws,(and yes i realize i said pigs/cops in the initial post, i guess that was a mistake/poor choice of word, once again tho i had just gotten home from the party and was a little mad) to make the cops send all of the 'irresponsible drug users' out onto the street with no where to go.
so just to make sure i answered your questions no i am not mad that the cops busted an illegal activity, because i understand that it is their job. as far as them forcing irresponsible drug users out onto the street, what would you call a responsible drug user? Aren't all drug users irresponsible in some way? at least they are in a contained place, with first aid, and security, as well as other experienced drug users, more ppl to help them, rather than off in the bushes somewhere, or at some house where everyone is too drunk or high or whatever to care if something happens, and where they probably have a better chance of ODing, or harming themselves or others.

Did I answer your questions this time??
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haha.
police forcing irresponsible drug users onto the street.

Are the police forcing people to make that decision to do drugs as well? I doubt it.

Furthermore, why don't you just call your parents and tell them what happened and get them to come pick you up? I'm serious. I'm almost certain most good parents would drive out to pick their kids up on a rainy night instead of having them get a ride with some high person who probably wouldn't safely take them home.

just an idea.

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Old Nov 12, 02
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ha ha. they don't want to see their parents cause they're all fucked up. on the very rare occasion that i do go to a rave or anything that's going to keep me up all night i make sure i have cab fare. i don't have the patience for the transit system.
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Old Nov 13, 02
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[quote]Originally posted by JuNgLe~BuNnY:
what would you call a responsible drug user? Aren't all drug users irresponsible in some way?
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Really... that's crazy... almost like what I was saying...

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Did I answer your questions this time??
Well the fact you took back bascially everything you said while not admiting your wrong kinda makes me have another question...

Who are you mad at now?
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Old Nov 13, 02
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i'm not mad at anyone, at the time i started this thread i was a little choked that my night got ruined so early, but that wasn't the reason i started this thread, in my initial post i was asking if ppl agreed with me about the fact that i don't think its right for the cops to break up parties so early, even if they are illegal, and i stated why. i never said i was mad at anyone. at the party i didn't make a big scene and freak out at the cops or anything i did what they said and left with my friends. i don't know why you think i'm mad at anyone.....

BTW how's that 'best of jungle bunny' thread comin??
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I would have finished it, but I'm not sure what to put in due to your insane amount of back pedaling about what you say.

For the record. You didn't ask shit. You stated it was stupid, and questioned what it acomplished. You didn't mean it as a poll or shit, otherwise you wouldn't have posted in a forum dedicated to complaining.

When I ask someone I'm mad at if they suck cock. I don't mean it as a simple poll about their sexuality...

Your last post and the first post seem to be written by two diffrent people. And if your wondering why I think your mad, the fact the thread is titled "stupid fucking pigs that break up parties" is one of my main reasons.

Stop trying to cover it up. You were being a crazy bitch, who dosen't understand the concept of laws.

Now shut up with this "what I ment" crap

You were wrong. Admit it. Suck it in and admit it.

Crapfully yours,
NinjaBoy

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