This isnt rasisct i hope.................

[SiN]

I just have a question and i hope this doesnt come off as rascit but well here goes.

I recently came to vancouver for Kiss. Now i noticed a large ass amount of asian population at the party, and they were quite the rude ass people. So why is it that way there? Here we all understand and respect each other, people gave me shit cause im white when i was there. Why do you guys put up with that shit.

Observations:
1. All asians dance the same over the whole world, this isnt bad but, the fact that it is a running flailing thing makes it hard to not, well, collide.
When i was there a girl slammed into me and then flipped out on me for dancing in the same spot i had been for an hour, WTF? then her homies gave me some look like i should move or they were gonna kill me.

So why the huge population and vibe difference, why cant all people get along for the reason of having a good time and leave your damn skin color or eye location on your head opr whatever at home and just enjoy some damn music?

Is there a reason for people to hate me cause i am white, maybe they hated the fact that i could dance with a fluid motion,(Us seattle kids pride ourselves on dancing skill) what is the deal?

WHY WHY WHY here we would never put up with that shit, gangs, mafias disrespect anyone and you would be out on your ass in a fucking heart beat, No matter who you thought you were.

End Rant.

come here and act like that,
SiN

[GoGo_Gurl]

Every country, every city, every party, has a different vibe. NO the Vancouver scene is not at its greatest, we all know that. But bringing back the vibe after it has vanished takes time.

The asians in the main room have never botherd me. Maybe u just dont know how to deal with n e one but flamming kandee kids.

Your right the scene in seattle proably is better, it probaly does have a better vibe. But there are kandee kids fucking all over the place, preching fake happyness and pretending to be someone they are not.

Not to mention you are comparing a van city massive to seattle parties. Come check out the underground scene in van. Dont judge a whole scene on the ONE party u attended.

[specialkonrd]

i smoked one of those drugs up asian 30 yr old retards into the metal door leading to the outside of riverside

[stringbeans]

Originally posted by SiN:

Observations:
1. All asians dance the same over the whole world, this isnt bad but, the fact that it is a running flailing thing makes it hard to not, well, collide.
When i was there a girl slammed into me and then flipped out on me for dancing in the same spot i had been for an hour, WTF? then her homies gave me some look like i should move or they were gonna kill me.

Is there a reason for people to hate me cause i am white, maybe they hated the fact that i could dance with a fluid motion,(Us seattle kids pride ourselves on dancing skill) what is the deal?

thats funny because after a single (?) party in vancouver you can already make the generalization that ALL asians all over the world dance the same and they ALL huddle in little circles dancing and flailing.

and you're from seattle right? hah!

i remember my trip down to seattle for a party... and ill tell you what i remember..

i remember big groups of flip kids running around yelling "e-bombs! e-bombs!" and flailing, almost hitting me with their "liquid" movements

i remember seeing all of these high white kids lined up against the wall massaging each other and making out.. i remember one high white chick ask me for a massage and at the same time was making out with some guy beside me

wow guy, your scene is SO much better than ours!! you dont see me making the generalization that all white kids are sluts do you?

conclusion: you're an idiot. you say you're not trying to be racist but the way you conveyed your thoughts really show that you're just another damn yankee (notice the generalization?)

john
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ps. you seattle kids pride yourself in dancing? hah! when i went down there i saw the most flailing i had ever seen in my life. i almost got my head taken off in the jungle room

[SiN]

our massives still arent that bad, i will be back for one of Argos parties soon, so i guess i shall see. And maybe you see kandy kids arent all faking, most are but that is forced from drug use. I like my vibe here, people are happy and not all kandy kids, we actually are a little short on the kandy kid scene here, most people here are real. And girly i can deal with the people i stayed and had fun, im just saying its unnessesary, everybody here knows that we have 15,000 person plus parties here no fights no gang talk no screaming at people. I did enjoy your guys musical preference though very nice,

SiN

[SiN]

Originally posted by stringbeans:


thats funny because after a single (?) party in vancouver you can already make the generalization that ALL asians all over the world dance the same and they ALL huddle in little circles dancing and flailing.

and you're from seattle right? hah!

i remember my trip down to seattle for a party... and ill tell you what i remember..

i remember big groups of flip kids running around yelling "e-bombs! e-bombs!" and flailing, almost hitting me with their "liquid" movements

i remember seeing all of these high white kids lined up against the wall massaging each other and making out.. i remember one high white chick ask me for a massage and at the same time was making out with some guy beside me

wow guy, your scene is SO much better than ours!! you dont see me making the generalization that all white kids are sluts do you?

conclusion: you're an idiot. you say you're not trying to be racist but the way you conveyed your thoughts really show that you're just another damn yankee (notice the generalization?)

john
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ps. you seattle kids pride yourself in dancing? hah! when i went down there i saw the most flailing i had ever seen in my life. i almost got my head taken off in the jungle room

Dude i have been all over the world bro, not just canada, I have been to gatecrasher in london, ministry of sound, the space in ibiza, your little city, all over the us, and tokyo so you can dis me if you want but i have seen it. But whatever you can keep being snotty and judgemental. Yes we have high kids, i saw way more there, and yes people dance bad here too, let me rephrase that, our poppers rule :) whatever peace between the two countries :)

SiN

[stringbeans]

Originally posted by SiN:

But whatever you can keep being snotty and judgemental. Yes we have high kids, i saw way more there, and yes people dance bad here too, let me rephrase that, our poppers rule :) whatever peace between the two countries :)

SiN

please point out where i was being snotty and judgemental.

and its funny how after all you've already said, you say "whatever, peace between the two countries" ... that's like throwing the first punch and then saying you dont want to fight anymore

john
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[SiN]

this is why your liberal attitude is fucking stupid, you cant see when you are being judgemental and snotty, you think it ios normal to be that way.

okay saying in conclusion your an idiot is kinda snotty, but i guess you missed that bro. Oh well maybe ill just start pronounceing words wrong and hating everybody that is a tad bit different. This started with me wondering why people were so rude and why i was a minority at a party and has turned into this whatever fuck off

SiN

[stringbeans]

lol

[SiN]

well im right i think, different cultures, different ideas, different levels of snottyness i guess.:24k: :060:

SiN

[cinist]

i luv when the yankees come to our "little" city....its great :moon:

no really i do though, its so easy to rip them off :c-tard:

[GoGo_Gurl]

^^ hmmmm lets see here. You are calling US snotty rude and judge mental. When u are the starter of this post, saying how all asians dance the same and b;ah blah blah. YOu say accept ppl because they are different, we do, there is every race of ppl at our parties and we welcome them. Yes Lots of asians at parties do alot of drugs and flail all over the place, but i also know personaly many asian ppl who are amazing dancers. Dont u think its a bit stero typical to say all asians flail?

Are you racest? Do u have a problem with canadians and/or asians? cause if u do, ur in the wrong fucking place sweet pea.

YOu cant come on here and keep suggesting that canadians are stupied and JUDGE MENTAL and that amreicans dont judge at all, while in the mean time u make this post. I dont understand.

Canada is the most multi cultural place on earth, especially BC. Maybe its u who has problems accepting ppl because they are different, it sure seems that way to me.

Sorry out scene out here is not just like yours, sorry i have different view points, sorry if i dont make snap judgements about a certen race of ppl due to how the majority of them DANCE. SOrry i'm not as ignorent as you. Sorry i'm not JUST like u.

ba ha ha ha ha ha ha, r u that caught up on yourself that everyone has to be just like u and if they arnt u are their superior? I'm sorry hun, u got issues.

[SEAN!]

Originally posted by cinist83
i luv when the yankees come to our "little" city....its great :moon:

no really i do though, its so easy to rip them off :c-tard:

word..jackin americans is fun..and SiN don't fuck around mang, cuz me my friends jimmy, jimmy, duc, troung and tuan will chop you mang. Doo maaa!!!!

hehe i have to agree tho seattle parties are less scary then vancouver ones, my biggest fear in seattle is getting mauled by a bunch of kandy kids, not being chopped by a bunch of 14 year old gangsters with rainbow hair. Also i love the way really high asian people dance its called the taiwanese trot, *punches air*

seattle parties are full of the cliched plurry raver types, i haven't yet decided wether thats a good thing or a bad thing yet...i think were gonan export some negativity to you guys come the next seattle massive/

[miss.myra]

Guess what buddy, it's racist.

[stabmyhead]

So why the huge population and vibe difference, why cant all people get along for the reason of having a good time and leave your damn skin color or eye location on your head opr whatever at home and just enjoy some damn music?

Is there a reason for people to hate me cause i am white, maybe they hated the fact that i could dance with a fluid motion,(Us seattle kids pride ourselves on dancing skill) what is the deal?

WHY WHY WHY here we would never put up with that shit, gangs, mafias disrespect anyone and you would be out on your ass in a fucking heart beat, No matter who you thought you were.

THE IRONY!! Please refrain from talking out of your ass -- it appears to have made you come off like a moron. Let us not forget the bully, "You're American or you get out" attitude a lot of your inhabitants seem to pride themselves in.

[miss.myra]

haha I just re-read it..the idiot can't even spell 'racist'


hahahahaha...

[Cdn_Brdr]

You make a whole lot of generalizations yourself pal. You preach tolerance and then shoot yourself in the foot in the same pararaph by cutting down another culture.

Nice introduction friend! What's even funnier is that you come on to a Canadian message board, cut us all down, and the whore yourself off in the promo section as a trance dj saying book me!

What the hell is up with that? I'm sure you're gonna get a crazy amount of calls now!

[oliver]

does no one realize that (all Political correctness aside) someone coming to a plaza party here in vancouver from anywhere else would have good reason to be suprised at the number of asians really high in the main room?

definetly something you dont see in seattle. hell, when i was in toronto i was totally facinated by the amount of black people there. we dont have a large black/african-canadian population here in vancouver and it stands out to me. it should be obvious that im not saying thats a bad thing, its just different.

[inkster]

there are two things that i hate in the world.

1. stereotypes.

2. people who strive to be them.

[Wood]

Originally posted by oliver
does no one realize that (all Political correctness aside) someone coming to a plaza party here in vancouver from anywhere else would have good reason to be suprised at the number of asians really high in the main room?

Why should they be surprised? Because there's a lot of asians? We're a Pacific Rim city with a high asian population, what's so unusual about that... or should they be surprised that there's a lot of high people at a rave?!?!

If somebody smacks into you at a party, and you're thinking 'that asian just hit me'... sorry, that's racist. Everybody there is high & failing - the majority of the crowd happens to be asian (in accordance with the population of the city), so the odds of someone of asian descent bumping into you are higher. Of course there are cultural differences that affect people's behavior... but if you can't learn to accept & embrace those differences, then you are a racist, straight up.

I stay away from big raves because i don't like being around that many high people, they're all generally rude and inconsiderate in my eyes. But passing judgement on an entire race because of a few bad experiences at a party is just plain ignorant.

Also, the fact that you (sin) seem to think that because i live on the other side of an imaginary line a couple of hours north of you, that i automatically have different values or philosophy, is further evidence of your ignorance. not trying to diss, you don't sound like you're hating on anyone, but i think you need to start thinking of people as people, instead of classifying people by their nationality and assuming that that makes them different from you.

[cyberdog]

The reality of Vancouver is that it has a very large asian population when compared to many other North American cities. Along Oliver's point, I'm from Montreal originally and two of the first things (demographically speaking) I noticed here were:

1. Wow, there are a lot of asian people;
2. Where did all the black people go?

At massives in Vancouver I find there are two types of asian people - those there as part of a larger, mixed ethnicity group, and those who are there in their own little 'clique'. A lot of the second group (from my observations) tend to be older (i.e. 25+, some look like they are in the 40s), so I can see why they wouldn't interact much with peeps who are a lot younger. Plus, some people feel more comfortable for various reasons hanging out with people from their own culture/walk of life - I can understand this because I used to be this way to a degree due to upbringing myself. And, don't forget, that some likely have little or no English language skills (although certainly some are fluent). Add all that up and its not surprising to be taken aback at the sight of large groups of asians flailing on the dance floor.

I've been to the UK, where there aren't as many 'parties' and many more 'club night' types of activities, and something I noticed there is that there are a lot more older peeps out and about. Someone raised there who came to a North American party might be taken aback at the number of youths in attendance, wondering where all these flailing teeny-boppers, scarcely out of puberty, have come from.

All in all I've never had any real problems with any of the asian 'cliques'. Yeah, I've gotten dirty looks when I dance next to them and its crowded and they think I've invaded their space, but so what? I've gotten the same looks from every race under the sun at some point in time - just what happens sometimes when you accidently invade a person's little 'world of flail' when its crowded.

Yeah, maybe they could make more of an effort, but so could we. Yeah, we're all there to dance and enjoy the music...so what? If I go to see a movie I don't think I have to chat with everyone around me because of the 'shared experience'...at a party most of the peeps I chat with are those and I know and those they've introduced me to (but mebbe that's cuz I'm a bit shy).

Just accept it as part of the 'Vancouver Massive' experience, cuz they don't generally harm anyone and, truth be told, without this large demographic buying up tickets for these events, massives would likely shrivel up and die here (for the most part), cuz promoters need these people's support just as much as they need support from candy kids, junglists, etc. And if you really find its not to your taste, either stay in Seattle or check out some smaller, more underground Van events.

[No trace]

Take a chill pill everyone.... whoa, calm down... different people see things different ways, its called being unique, where we come from dictates alot of that.... there is no need to hate anyone, you can prefer not to associate with people you dont prefer, to hate a racist(not saying that anyone is on this thread) or anyone for that matter, for the things that they see and believe is a predjudice, and that isnt any better then being racist. And what SiN said in his first post is true, the asians and alot of other people too boot, do wierd things, I'm happy to say i do wierd things while high... tiger balm, halls, funky glasses... whatever gets your goat, isnt that the whole point of a rave? to be who you are and have fun? so what? someone slams into me and gets all agro on my ass i say whateves, this spot over here is good too!
the point of my post is simply relax, opinions are the outlooks we as individuals have on life, if they were all the same, we'd all be the same, and thats boring...

im babbling as per usu... so ill leave it at that...

[SiN]

Damn people this got off track, I was saying that the asian population was greatly higher and the fact that they were way more agressive, the damncing thing is me saying that tthey bump into you then get mad about it is wrong, (we call it the asian stomp here :)) oh yeah and whoops i spelled racist wrong sorry. This had nothing to do bout how they dance or anything like that, that was an example of how shit happened up there. One girl was jumping around all crazy, slammed into me in my little tiny popping bubble, then turned and screamed at me, then had like 10 of her friends threaten me and make me move out of there oversized area. And plur isnt bad come send hatred down here and we will send you out the door. I am a party kid or whatever you wanna call it, not a candy kid, but we still practice respect, if i bump into you i say sorry bout that, not what the fuck man, do you wanna die roar!!!! just my observation, you guys should try staying on subject instead of getting offended by the minor details. Liberal Liberal Liberal, got an opinon on everything :) And i used asians as an example because some of the people up there appear somewhat nervous around them and afraid like harm would come to them if they said the wrong thing. Maybe here racism is easy and less a problem, one of my best friends is an asian and she calls me a stupid ass white person and i call her a stupid asian all day, people here understand that we joke about it, so no worries sorry if i offened people with my straight forwardness :finger: stop getting so offended about everything not all my werds are an attack :)


SiN

[oliver]

Originally posted by 9663
the majority of the crowd happens to be asian (in accordance with the population of the city), so the odds of someone of asian descent bumping into you are higher. Of course there are cultural differences that affect people's behavior... but if you can't learn to accept & embrace those differences, then you are a racist, straight up.

thats my point. if you are from somewhere where the asian population is perhaps minimal and you come to vancouver, where there is a large population of asian decent, it will probably stick out to you. i wasnt making any comment on their behavior or culture, just that if someone is from a different city, that aspect of a vancouver plaza party might stick out to them. as i said, just as seeing a large black population in toronto suprised me. i keep my eyes open and notice my surroundings. that doesnt mean i hold any ethnic population in any less esteem than any other.

Originally posted by 9663

If somebody smacks into you at a party, and you're thinking 'that asian just hit me'... sorry, that's racist. Everybody there is high & failing -

yes, agreed.

[wigglesworth]

You said that ALL the asian ppl there were high and flailing. I had a couple asian friends there. They weren't flailing.

Next time you say something like this choose your words carefully.
You could've said, "a lot of" or " a great number."