People who think they're SOOO damn sweet because they're in big shot US universities

[Moon]

good on ya girl you've got a very good head on your shoulders

good luck =) you'll get there i have new found respect for ya

[G-Style]

Originally posted by k-pryde


hmmmm

i agree and disagree
i agree that the real world will make you realize real things

but i disagree that school just basically says this is right, this is wrong. This is right this is wrong comes into plan when presenting facts for history for example. you can't change what really happned cuz if you do you're basically bullshitting and presenting false information. what school does is makes you use all those facts after reading book after book and presenting an idea, a theory, which is not as easy as it may sound. coming up with a good thesis and proving it in 2000 words alone is tough.

but i admire your post. good shit =)

I was actually referring to the industry I'm in. Depending on the career choice depends on if school is a good choice or not. In my industry the guys that come out of school thinking they know how everything "should" work bu tget them on a site and they are the hardest to teach anything cause they "know" everything from school. If you are heading into a buisness that requires schooling then yes school is a non-issue but there are many industries that schooling is not always the best solution.
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[shorerider]

Originally posted by SEAN!


yeah sure, and you'll still be making 9.50 an hour working as a game tester..so whats your point?

you guys may clown education but your stupid fuckin ravers so i dont expect anything less from a bunch of unmotivated people who have no goals in life other then sticking most of theirs up their nose.

studies show that even someone with a bullshit BA in musical composition will make more money in the long run then someone without a degree. Secondly most executives/people in buisness who make real fuckin money have post graduate degrees that actually relate to their work.

There may be alot of people who make alot of money without a university education but the vast majority of high income earners do have one. Finally no one takes into account the importance education will have in the future, most of these people we talk about are already established and are our parents age whicxh means that their income levels have already peaked. Thrirty years ago education wasnt as important as it is now and as a consequence one could earn a high paying job without post secondary education but merely relying on natural abiltiy and on the job training. In the future, education will certainly be even more important as even now it is almost a prerequisite for many high and medium income jobs. Also its important to realize that as we will need more skilled workers to replace the huge amount of baby boomers who comprise the labour force and will be retiring over the next 15-20 years, real wages, especially for those with post secondary education in a trade as well as university, will increase quite significanly.

I've seen alot of people on this board downplay the significance of a university education and instead emphasize the importance of an applied education such as the ones offered in trades and technical schools. Sure employers may prefer that type of education particuarly in certain fields like IT and trades but nthe thing about applied education is they are so narrowly focused that the job you are trained for is very specific. The exclusive nature of an applied education does not allow one to be dynamic about the type of job they can preform. Essentailly, if you decide that you dont like the type of work you do or technologically innovation renders your training obsolete, your fucked and you have to go back to school. Therefore it is important to realize the postive side of a broad university education. Plus theres a certain prestige to a university degree especially one from an ivy league school that can't be overlooked, and as many of you seem to fail to realize, perception of quality is often alot more important then the actual quality of the education itself....MARKETING NIGGGGAAAHHH!

Some chump with a carpentry ticket may think he has me beat because hes 21 and makes 50k a year right out of school but thats fuckin peanuts man by the time were both 50 he'll be physically worn out and ill be making $400k a year bitch,(let me dream ok) MBa what!??!!

but after all of that, do you think you will be happy?

[SEAN!]

Originally posted by shorerider


but after all of that, do you think you will be happy?

yeah man....i love it.

[Moon]

hahaha $ean will be happy :smoke1:

[Sykonee]

To add onto what's been covered, I'm still not certain that jumping right into a post secondary institution is neccesarily the best idea for high school graduates.

Our generation seems to be getting force-fed the inclination that a good education will get us that 6-figure job we hear so much about. Does it help? Sure, but what is the #1 thing employers want in new workers? Experience.

This is why I feel that getting out into the work force, even if it's just a piddling low income job, for a few years before jetting off into a post secondary school is far more impressive on a resume than just a degree. It shows that you've already gotten your hands dirty.

Probably some of the best courses available at schools are those that offer job placement, if even temporary, as a part of said course.

Really, there are many ways of getting that degree in whatever field. The common route tends to be emerging yourself into a university but why not take just a course or two for a semester while gaining working experience at the same time? Or even night school, for that matter. The piece of paper you get that confirms you know your shit is still the same, no matter how you get it (although from who can make a difference, I admit).

[shorerider]

Originally posted by SEAN!


yeah man....i love it.

atta boy :)