People who don't tip.

[Chewy]

sometimes i tip , sometimes i dont,

When i was younger and money wasnt really an issue i had no problem tipping and i used to leave more than 15% tips most occasions. Today i bust my ass for my money and im not about to start giving it away. Yea i get paid alot more but thats because of the hazardous conditions that i work in, There is the potential for death everyday i go to work. These days i still leave a tip but its not like what i used to, i cant go around giving my money away everytime i go out to eat.
But for people who serve big tables with 8+ people then i know its gonna be alot of extra work for them, i will make sure they get a decent tip then

"i work hard for my money so you better treat me right"


i dont get tipped to work in the rain/snow/
i dont get tipped to get cut up and bruized
i dont get tipped to breath in dust and shitty air
i dont get tipped to get shocked
i dont get tipped to wake up at 5 am every dam day

[frogprincess]

Originally Posted by TrixX

and from working in a restaurant.....i tip everyone :) except fucking loser bartenders that think they're hot shit........oh must of been hard to open that bottle for me......why do you think you deserve a couple dollars for 15 seconds of work????????

so what makes you better than a bartender??
they're also making minimun wage and providing a service

Originally Posted by TrixX

i make an average of $20+ an hour serving on a good night!

that's good for you
now, when it comes to income tax time are you paying according to the $20+/hr or NOT PAYING based on the $8(or whatever)/hour??

cuz if you're NOT PAYING that's a lot of "bread and butter"

Originally Posted by TrixX

i would never say its expected, but i would say that for the generous people that do tip it is more than greatly appreciated

well if it's not expected than what is so "unfair" about not being tipped??

[frogprincess]

Originally Posted by Disco_Whore

Non tipper = cheap asshole.

I don't care who you like to think you are because tipping isn't just supposed to be a "special bonus" for the service industry, it's their bread and butter. Do you think that having to deal with your bad attitude while I sweetly smile all night is worth $8.00 an hour for a job that can never give me more than 5-6 hours a night? No. So atleast show some sense of decensy and tip. If the service is bad, you have just reason. But if you're just cheap, stay home.

or

non tipper = someone who is also working for minimum wage w/o the bread and butter

it's not fair to say that someone who does not make enough to leave a tip should stay home, even if they're piss-poor they are still entitled to go out once and awhile and have a meal at a restaurant

[frogprincess]

PS - thou shalt not tip in many ASIAN countries and kick ass service is still provided

[prozac]

OK. Income tax requires you to declare your tips and pay tax on them...I usually give em a rough estimate because its obvious that as I waitress I'm not making just 8 an hour. (that should be past tense because i dont waitress anymore)

And I can't believe you think that opening a bottle of beer is the same amount of work as seating you, filling water, taking drink orders, beggin the kitchen to make your complicated personalized meal, cleaning up when someone spills their margarita, bringing you extra napkins, bringing another round of drinks, recommending a dessert and then cleaning up after you after you leave.

I think what we're trying to say is it's unfair when we bust our ass and do a great job and get a kick in the pants for our trouble. We COULD just drop the food on the table if we knew we weren't going to get tipped. That's what they do in Australia...there's no tipping there, so the waitress just brings your food and that's it. It's often hard to even get a second round of drinks.

[Goat]

Originally Posted by soma

you had a group of 20 and you didn't auto grat them?

The place I work at doesn't work that way, unfortunately. It's a small town.

Maybe it's because I don't give rimmers in the washrooms like you.

Menonites in this area don't tip shit, period.

[PwInCeSs]

I know i dont see that a bartender making my drink is the same amount of work. I know that I've done both.
But Bartenders are doing a service and in many places as i said befor make the drinks for the waitresses as the chefs do the food.
And dont make it sound like pouring water and clearing a table and all that is the end of the world. We never tiopped pur moms at dinner when we "begged them" to change one thing for us, asked them for more juice, complained about something then ran away.
Yes i tip if tehy do well but i dont think a person should feel they HAVE to tip.
I know its not an easy job and if the jobs done well and someone doesnt tip i do find it to be horrible. Yes waiters/waitresses put up with alot of shit, as do many other jobs, i just dont find fair how some of you are acting like a person HAS to tip you.

[Chewy]

[quote=prozac]I think what we're trying to say is it's unfair when we bust our ass and do a great job and get a kick in the pants for our trouble. We COULD just drop the food on the table if we knew we weren't going to get tipped[quote]

if you start dropping food on the table you will get your ass canned pretty quick

[prozac]

^that's true.

unfortunate that people expect service but don't want to pay for it.

at least in Australia they don't expect service for free.

I'm not really one of those "you have to tip me" people anyways...I'm good at what I do, so I usually make coin despite the few who don't tip...and I realize that it's an extra bonus, I don't expect it. I was just trying to point out what tipping is for and why it's appreciated.

and Pwincess...your server is not your mom. Even though we are made to feel like it sometimes.

[Chewy]

^ yea.. no one should ever classifly there mother as a server. Mom gave you more juice cause she cared

[Goat]

Originally Posted by frogprincess

PS - thou shalt not tip in many ASIAN countries and kick ass service is still provided

Too bad we live in Canada where it's still customary to tip. Everyone gets shafted at work, from bankers to waiters. This situation particularly irked me and thought i'd point it out. I do well at what I do, the money is great, barring situations like this.
If you feel that it's your perogative not to tip, whatever. I don't want to hear about it.

[PwInCeSs]

Originally Posted by prozac

and Pwincess...your server is not your mom. Even though we are made to feel like it sometimes.

well duh, i was just saying you do the same things mothers at a home do just you get paid.
And if you have customers that make you feel like your there mom i feel sorry for you. I had annoying customers serving but none that made me feel like a mom.
The other job i had when serving was 4X as hard as serving was still getting done for ppl and did not include a tip. Being a server has the bonus of the chance of tips.

[Chewy]

^ i want to hear about it. I dont want to tip. So your saying that you enjoy giving your money away? It would be sweet if i didnt tip, think of the money i could save, it would be sweet if everything was a little bit cheaper. i would save more money. Everything is getting more expensive these days and saving a few bucks here and there does make a difference

[prozac]

Yeah but saying that servers do what your mom does is not a valid argument for anything...I mean I don't get it. I'm not ANYONE's mom, and that's why I get paid. Are you trying to say I should do it for free because moms do? It makes no sense.

[PwInCeSs]

it was not even an argument at all, why do people always need to argue. I was just stating the fact that people do it everyday as part of there normal life, yes people do it as a job and get pauid as they deserve to, although why should they EXPECT more money on top of what there boss is willing to pay.

[FeelGood]

why dont mcdonalds cooks get tips?

they make minimum wage and are also providing you with a service?!

[miss.myra]

bottom line, going out and sitting down to a meal or getting a bevvy at a club or a coffee at a coffee shop, etc. are all LUXURIES. You could easily and less expensively do all of the above at home.

Part of a LUXURY is that there are costs associated with the service, part of the reason you go out to eat is because you don't want to do it yourself at home, think of a tip as part of the expense of going out if you have a hard time hearing people whine about how its their bread and butter. Not saying if you're poor don't go out, but this is an expense you should expect should you choose to do this over the other.

[ash1ee]

honestly i didnt really read any of these posts. because this thread comes up about every 3-4 months.

yes i work in an industry where I depend on my tips as my extra spending money. however I never count on them to pay my bills.
It is always the people who complain about having to tip who have never set foot into any sort of service industry. and thats fine if that isnt your type of work. But if they had to work just one day, they'd understand that we bust our ass to make tips. We don't just expect them to be handed over to us.

[mugsy]

one time i went to the restauant my boyfriend was working at about 20 mintues before closing (i was picking him up anyways) and ordered something that i knew he'd be preparing - chiken strips - and he gave me one less then normal and all were tiny and poorly done - bad presentation too. i laughed cause i knew just how pissed off he must have been over the situation. i wouldnt have done this to anyone else.

another time i went to milestones with my friend - we ordered drinks and had a coupon for the artichoke dip. it was all we ordered, we tipped the guy rougly $6, which was half our bill and he apparently complained to my boyfriend who was in the kitchen about "two girls that just ordered drinks and used a coupon" boyfriend thought we didnt tip, but we did.

anyways, tipping is apart of your bill - hotels are starting to include it on their room service bills. most of the time i over tip, i know what its like to bust your ass and get paid shitty for it\deal with alot of assholes.

[Ragga_Wh0re]

Originally Posted by Goat

The place I work at doesn't work that way, unfortunately. It's a small town.


Maybe it's because I don't give rimmers in the washrooms like you.

Menonites in this area don't tip shit, period.

HAR HAR HAR!sorry no sexual favors were given in return for tips...hell i wouldnt even show my stellar rack at work either and I still got to reap the benefits.so f u a-hole.

anyways about tipping bartenders...TIP EM EVERYTIME YOU GET A DRINK YA CHEAP BASTARDS!When i used to bartend my bar would be lined up and 90% of the time id be the only bartender manning the bar.Bartending aint that easy,if anything its more stressful then serving.

as for claiming tips..HAHA!Thats funny.I never claimed my tips.Why the fuck should I?Just cuz taxman say so?Fuck taxman.

[TrixX]

Originally Posted by frogprincess

so what makes you better than a bartender??
they're also making minimun wage and providing a service

i never said i was better than them :) do i do more work for the people that tip me??? YES! more times than not i get a nasty look or attitude if i don't tip a bartender! i can't remember who said it but i tip a couple bucks a couple times a night, not a couple bucks everytime i get a drink! i spend approx about 45 minutes with a table. taking orders, getting drinks, getting appys(like salads and soups myself), running their food, doing quality checks to make sure thier food is okay, refilling drinks numerous times(not everyone needs a refil at the same time), preparing desserts and getting managers cards for discounts and billing them. the bartender leaned over and opened my bottle for me in 15 secs. i never said to not tip bartenders, but they shouldn't expect a couple dollars from me everytime i order drink! do i think they deserve as big of a percentage as me........then your right.....no i don't!

Originally Posted by frog princess

that's good for you
now, when it comes to income tax time are you paying according to the $20+/hr or NOT PAYING based on the $8(or whatever)/hour??

cuz if you're NOT PAYING that's a lot of "bread and butter"

my taxes are non of your business :) what does this have to do with anything??? we're talking about people who tip here, not about how i pay my taxes!

Originally Posted by frogprincess

well if it's not expected than what is so "unfair" about not being tipped??

ugh. clearly you didn't read my posts :) i NEVER said it was unfair. i said i have a problem with people that go out for a meal, rack a bill up, ask for a million things, re-arange the menu, bitch about the syrup content in our iced tea and then don't tip! don't make me work my ass off and cater to your high-maintanence menu selections and then be an ass and not tip me. if i have to go above and beyond to make you absolutely happy, you better believe i'm doing it for a good tip!

[Disco_Whore]

Originally Posted by frogprincess

or

non tipper = someone who is also working for minimum wage w/o the bread and butter

it's not fair to say that someone who does not make enough to leave a tip should stay home, even if they're piss-poor they are still entitled to go out once and awhile and have a meal at a restaurant
PS - thou shalt not tip in many ASIAN countries and kick ass service is still provided

I'm well aware of how harsh that came out (so ironic that I saw the post after serving the most horribly rude girls I've met in my life who suprise suprise: didn't tip) but as someone else has pointed out services are meant to be luxuries/luxury items. I don't necessarily mean that if people don't have very much money they shouldn't be able to enjoy them. They can enjoy them, but they should expect to pay the tip which is a part of the service.

If you want to compare to other countries why not look at Europe too? There gratuity is already included in the price and the servers can do as they please. Many are pleasant, but by not having to depend on a patron's willingness to tip they can be treat a patron the same way they are treated.

It's not so much an issue when people don't tip. It becomes an issue when a patron who wants you to bend over backwards for free, is rude, nasty, and demanding doesn't tip. It's usually those people who don't tip anyways.

[Crazy_BC_Chick]

good tips will brighten someone's day, so why not? :)

[Goodfellow]

Deliverin pizzas is the worst for that. I used to do that for like a year.. some people tip amazing, but half the people are too jerk ass/poor ass to tip. Hey fuck face Im using gas and puttin wear on my car to get out to your fuckin house to give you your shitty pizza way out in the boonies , how bout you tip. It's always the people who are furthest outta the city that never tip. I tip everyone, drivers, servers, hairdressers, bartenders etc Cept I don't usually tip very much to bartenders workin in packed clubs, cause they make so much (and reaching to grab a beer doesn't deserve $2)

[crookedking]

mr. purple taught me not to tip.