Radiohead - In Rainbows

[dj_soo]

i kind of thought we had moved on from just talking radiohead but if you still want to harp on that go ahead. I already admitted i was wrong the album but my point still stands.

If they really didn't want any compensation, they would have just posted a link. Period.

btw, i think you don't quite understand the definition of "donation" but whatever.

[Gusto]

Originally Posted by dj_soo

If they really didn't want any compensation, they would have just posted a link. Period..

if they wanted to ensure compensation, they should have done so. period. :P

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by esoter1c

Leave the horse alone Soo, he's dead.

End of.

[dj_soo]

fine.

Album's pretty dope tho.

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by dj_soo

fine.

Album's pretty dope tho.

I was hoping for something more electronic.:sad2:

[TrixX]

i love the new album. i'm not disappointed at all.

and as earlier stated......super pumped that nude is included on this one as i've been listening to the live version for years :)

[dj_soo]

thought it had a nice balance. started off nice and program-y and then moved on to the more traditional thom nasal-whine-rock that they do so well.

[TrixX]

Originally Posted by dj_soo

thought it had a nice balance. started off nice and program-y and then moved on to the more traditional thom nasal-whine-rock that they do so well.

totally agreed ;)

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by esoter1c

I was hoping for something more electronic.:sad2:

See Thom Yorke's solo album. I don't think we're ever going to see another Kid A from Radiohead.

[esoter1c]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

See Thom Yorke's solo album. I don't think we're ever going to see another Kid A from Radiohead.

I ran eraser into the ground.

I'm hoping the next studio albums more electronical.

[j3rk]

supposedly the download by donation is only 160kbps. I would never pay for something with that low of a bitrate.

I still like radioheads business model, but they are doing a way worse job than the pirates on the internet will do. IMHO, they should have release flac, ogg and some mp3-v0, mp3-320 versions of their music and allow the consumers to choose which format they want.

[decypher]

^ I think the logic was if you liked the music then you would pay to have the higher quality box set. The 160 bitrate seems to be pissing off a few people though.

[j3rk]

People could have donated $20 and they still get shit for quality. Not making any sense to me.

I lose more and more respect for this the more i learn about it.

[decypher]

yeh true but many won't even notice the quality difference.

As for the free thing, i think "giving it away for free" was more media framing if anything. Phrasing it that way is more sensational. That's why Radiohead said it was "up to you;" they're trying to give more power to the consumer as a new marketing model. Thinking that they did not want to profit from their creation is a bit delusional.

There's a very active dialogue on the "participatory user" going on in Communications. So we'll see lots of experiments like this as people wake up to emerging technology and the old structure dies out or is modified.

[j3rk]

Here's how radio head should have released their free sample.

I said it was a good idea at first, but upon further inspection it was a POS shit website with a POS mp3 rip (160kbps, even if you paid for it)

Trent Reznor and Saul Williams are doing it right:

Trent Reznor and Saul Williams Discuss Their New Collaboration, Mourn OiNK

Saul and Trent.Courtesy of Cornerstone
Spoken-word and hip-hop artist Saul Williams toured with Nine Inch Nails last year, and Trent Reznor liked him so much that he decided to produce his new album. The Inevitable Rise and Liberation of Niggy Tardust!, a mind-boggling fusion of genres — think NIN meets Gnarls Barkley meets Justice, if you can do so without your head exploding — will be released tomorrow through Williams's Saul Williams - The Inevitable Rise and Liberation of NiggyTardust! as a free download (or you can chip in five bucks to support Saul). The two artists spoke with Vulture by phone from L.A. this afternoon, discussing the album's genesis, the imploding record industry, and how much they paid for the new Radiohead album.

Your download will be an 83MB zip file containing the entire record as 192Kbps DRM-free LAME encoded MP3s along with a PDF booklet.

We even get the friggin' booklet.

They collect your email address, which is smart. They can sell them for at least .25c each :) They could make more money collecting and selling emails than i bet they could selling albums with music that would never get distributed. Also, i'm sure i'll hear about it when Saul comes out with a new album (that perhaps will not be free). Anyways....(N) radiohead (Y) Saul & Reznor.

Read the rest: Trent Reznor and Saul Williams Discuss Their New Collaboration, Mourn OiNK -- Vulture -- Entertainment & Culture Blog -- New York Magazine

Trent: I think it's just an awkward time right now to be a musician. The reality is that people think it's okay to steal music. There's a whole generation of people, that's all they've known. I used to buy vinyl. Today, if you do put out a record on a label, traditionally, most people are going to hear it via a leak that happens two weeks — if not two months — before it comes out. There's no real way around that. I'm truly saddened because I think music has been devalued, so that it's just a file on your computer, and it's usually free. But we can't change that. What we can do is try to offer people the best experience that we can provide them. Will it work? I don't know. But I think it's a great way to get music out to people who are interested. At the end of the day, all I care about is the integrity of the music, and that the feeling of those who experience it is as untainted as possible. I'd rather it not be on an iPod commercial. I'd rather it not be a ringtone that you have to get with a free cell phone or any of that bullshit.

[cubed]

^Saul Williams - "The Inevitable Rise and Liberation of Niggy Tardust" has got to be one of the best albums I've heard this year.

Any fan of NIN, TV on The Radio or any band similar will absolutely love this album.

Saul Williams - The Inevitable Rise and Liberation of NiggyTardust! if you don't have the album yet.

[dj_soo]

I received the box set a couple days ago. Absolutely gorgeous - worth the price imo. I'll throw up some pics if anyone wants to see it.

[ebbomega]

I actually might want to grab that. How's the vinyl? I picked up OK Computer a year and a half ago on record and honestly it's one of those recordings where even the CD doesn't really do it justice.

PS: I just saw This interview of Thom Yorke by David Byrne of Talking Heads fame on Digg. Very cool way of looking at the state of the music world, and very interesting discussions on the value of music.