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May 29, 05
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you take everything said on a personal level like a little whiny bitch. all that i ever hear from you is "woe is me! breakz is stale!" take your own advice champ and lay off the triple shot latte enemas. 
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May 29, 05
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if you think calling me names is a great way to make friends then you keep at 'er big guy
apparently you haven't realized that despite the fact that this is merely an internet chat forum, the things you say are in fact taken personally when they're intended that way... all this hate from a person who used to be a friend is extremely disappointing... now I remember why I stopped hanging out with you this is the last post I intend to make regarding this foolish little conflict you can't let die enjoy being "right"
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May 29, 05
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no more walks or late night chats
:blunt: the breaks scene isn't what the dnb scene is because there's a whole culture involved with dnb, there's a way of dress, language - boh ect.. - like hip hop, if you go to a hip hop show you'll see sean john and roca wear and you'd hear the ebonics. breaks isnt really a well defined culture, ppl cant identify with each other through words or dress so there's no community sense almost. people are sheep they have a need to flock together under a common label that unites them , its sad but its true. even the term "junglist" being so well known and over used is a constant promotional tool for dnb, there's no word like that describes and promotes someone in the break culture to that degree. you put a name or a lable on a common group of ppl, and a uniform, give them some language to identify with, hell tell them what they think and you have a united people that comes out in force ... isnt that how americans get kids to join he army - its all bullshit really Last edited by SWIFTBEATS; May 29, 05 at 08:53 PM.
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May 29, 05
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so we need to come up with some sort of bullshit culture here! haha
but it's hard to make up new words without sounding retarded... just think of some of the stuff rap has come up with... aka: "whip" meaning car... "bling" meaning shiny bit of jewelry... there's all sorts of dorky stuff out there that's been repeated so often that it's become accepted as 'cool' SWIFTBEAT your point makes tons of sense... think about emos... nobody actually likes that shit, but tons of guys all over the place are getting their hair cut like women and acting like sad snobby... things... all the time anybody got any good ideas for the breaks fashion? how bout we just steal rock'n'roll's fashion and pretend like we made it up :D
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May 29, 05
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House even has community, and a long deep history, culture, and ofcourse hiphop. Breaks, well doesn't, I mean, you can kind of count some 70's funk, some old school hiphop, booty breaks, etc. But there's no 'name' no 'culture'. Breaks were huge from about 98 to about 02. In my last post I mentioned "Pendulum/Freestylers - Fasten.." you know why? That's evolution, that's progressing the sound, if it takes a d&b producer to do it? FINE! I know it sucks, but every genre needs hooks and vocals, so you know it's THAT track. Anyways, a breaks AND d&b night would be great! I've been wanting to check out that Wed at Lotus mashup ting. See that type of night brings crowds becuase IT NEVER GETS STALE. NEVER. No 4 hour sets of 134 bpm tracks. It kills me to say this shit because I used to be the biggest breaks fan. I mean, I was deep into it. But not at all anymore, I played out a few tracks last night that I hadn't played in over a year.
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May 30, 05
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Awwww Myra... you and your hugs.
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May 30, 05
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hey chrissy, werent we just talking about how wicked the breakz scene is, and how all the breakz djs are all "crew" at rollin on bass not to long ago?
i personly dont think breakz needs an "image" ie. language/style/whatever...... that is just inclined for hate/segrigation (SP) and main stream bullshit! all electronic music is meant to be underground, back in the day, youde go to a one room event, (with every genre), and the people there at the start, would be rockin till the end! in my opinion, to label the genres with "image" is just destroyiong the scene, not helping it and even so, i see what you mean about dnb heads.....but what about "house music kids" how do they dress/talk/walk? or trance kids? i understand the perspective due to hip hop/country, and rock, they al have image, and are popular music, and have "image" but take into consideration that, that is mainstream music! i believe this thread is focused on "electronica" house is very popular........can someone tell me how house kids dress? cuz im stumped there. i believe the only electronic genre with image is DNB, and thats only because before, it was the one genre that wasnt apprectated, so these kids revolted, and tried to be as different as they could im not triin to hate here, but take a minute to think about that! - what other electronic genres really do have "image"?
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May 30, 05
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and dnb didn't get it's image from some bunch of white raver rebels in north america, it got it's image from the streets of london, imported alongside the choons.
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May 30, 05
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^^ i understand that, i am not out to hate here!
i was more focusing on our scene, not the scene half way across the world. RESPECT! - im not hating, im giving my perspective,...from my understanding! if it seems wrong to you, please dont hate, im only tring to give insite!
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May 30, 05
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uhhhhhhh no.
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May 30, 05
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breaks has a huge history and is the root for so many forms of music, even dnb. I dont understand why people say it doesen't identify with anything. The amen, apache, funky drummer... et al. It may not be in a good state in this city in some of your eyes, so focus on the future not the past if you wanna make it better.
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May 30, 05
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c'mon people now... smile on yer brother everybody get together.. try to love one another... right nooow...
I appoligize to all those who had to put up with the immature bullshit between me and Akeel there... I just wanna talk about breaks here I really do think there ought to be at least one clubnight out there that has a decent night to be on where it's not just a single genre of music... I don't mean a mashup night either... as much as I love Chris Jones I'm really not into the whole 80's music and oldskool rap deally... I used to love going to The Drink when Akeel and Haze and Mirka and Mario were running a night there, because I was always hearing new music and it wasn't always all the same genre every time I went... sure the attendance was usually kinda low, but shit it was good people and good music and variety... what more could I ask for? (besides blowjobs while playing, obviously) there needs to be another night like that in town, but on a Friday or Saturday night or something
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May 30, 05
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Vinyl Richie - Shine Saturdays.
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May 30, 05
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I think you're referring to the former and most people here are referring to the latter...
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May 30, 05
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^uh as to the when and where I think that's pretty obvious: Shine on Saturdays
Vinyl Ritchie covers a lot of different styles from breaks to hiphop to pop to cheesy top40 to rock and he mixes it all together really well. Think of Big Trouble with more emphasis on the funk side of things than on the 80s/new wave/old school side of things... I think it's $10 though...
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May 30, 05
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I mean electronic music when I say a multi-genre night why can't progressive house/breaks, nu skool breaks, funky house, tech house, techno, trance, drum n bass, speedgarage and all the various good-shit electronic music coincide peacefully like it does at raves? all u need is someone who knows how to pick which genres get played which nights and voila you've got a successful night on your hands! u just gotta make sure you get the best of each genre... no crappy DJs playing the poorest examples of each genre (aka: for trance, u wouldn't want someone who plays wanky hard trance stuff that nobody but the hardcore trance lovers would want to hear) if nobody else does this then maybe one day (if I ever get financially secure, which seems destined to be never) I'll give it a go! fuck it! sure you'll have all sorts of elitists tellin u it'll never work, but I bet it'd go off pretty damn good if anybody tried it out
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May 31, 05
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you're loss.
There's a reason Vinyl Ritchie has been voted top Vancouver DJ in this city for god knows how many years. He covers the full spectrum. From electronic to non-electronic from unknown breaks to full-on top40 hits (with a twist) and does it insanely well. However, I do agree to a point but I generally prefer DJs encompassing all genres (mixed well of course - fuck that whole radio-mixing fadein/fadeout shit) within a set rather than sectioning it off over the course of the night... It's more challenging to me as a DJ and it definitely appeals to me as a clubgoer. I'm sure it could work and I think multi-genre nights should be the direction that club nights should be going. Sure it might alientate some of the hardcores, but hardcore genre followers are no longer enough to sustain nights anymore and the fickle trend-goers have long ago forgotten about genres like breaks and dnb... The weird part about those 2 genres was there used to be a lot of breaks/dnb nights in town and they just more-or-less stopped for some reason... Unfortunately for now, the best way to get what you're describing is going to a big, multiroom rave :)
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