Buying a new audio PC. Recommendations?

[Gusto]

install lunix noob

[ppcock]

lunix? from the makers of stalin!

[rawb]

THE AMOUNT OF MONEY/TIME/WARRANTY VOIDING YOU HAVE TO SPEND TO WATERCOOL SOMETHING VS THE AMOUNT OF RETURN YOU GET BACK IS PRETTY FUCKING SMALL

LIKE RIDICULOUSLY SMALL

LIKE "MUGEN POWERED STICKER ON YOUR HONDA CIVIC PERFORMANCE BOOST" SMALL

[ppcock]

No shit... excessive amounts of cooling is pointless.

[rawb]

Originally Posted by ppcock

yeah, but if they want their pc server to not meltdown and cause the other servers to go blammo, they'd switch to unix.

"HEY BOSS, REMEMBER THAT WINDOWS-ONLY PROGRAM THAT RUNS THE ACCOUNTING AND BILLING FOR THE ENTIRE COMPANY? WELL IVE DECIDED WINDOWS IS FOR NOOBZ AND WERE GOING TO HAVE TO MIGRATE THAT TO UNIX. WERE GOING TO TIE UP THE WHOLE TECH AND ACCOUNTING DEPARTMENTS FOR 2 MONTHS AND ITS GOING TO COST A FEW HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS, PLUS TRAINING. ALSO, WE WILL BE MIGRATING TO THE UNIX VERSION OF THE PROGRAM THAT DOESN'T EVEN EXIST, OR SOME BUG-RIDDLED OPEN SOURCE ALTERNATIVE THAT GIVES US 70% OF THE FUNCTIONALITY.

THIS COOL? LET ME KNOW LOL BYE"

[ppcock]

the company i worked for only handled 9 servers.

i lost.

[BenGiovanni]

it doesnt cool a cpu but it does drastically lower temperature... cold water running against a warm cpu.. followed by a run by the external heatsink which cools down the water, it does enough.

[rawb]

ENOUGH WHAT?

IS IT A CARBON FIBRE HOOD HEATSINK WITH VTECH?

[rawb]

SHOW OF HANDS WHO HERE HAS A PROBLEM WITH THEIR AUDIO PCS OVERHEATING THAT REQUIRES MORE HARDWARE THEN 1 OR 2 MORE $5 CASEFANS

[mux]

man, you'd think an experienced sysadmin could find the capslock key. apparently that key works on any OS also, so it's not just for linux admins.

the advantage of water cooling is *sound*. still, it's cheaper and just as effective to use a few 120mm fans and a voltage limiter to keep them down to about 1/3rd their speed, so they'll be almost silent.

one of my bosses is building a central watercooling system for his house; in and out pipes near ever desk, and a water loop out to a radiator in his garage... cooling for all his computers. apparently it's almost done. he's a maniac - he's also running this monitor on his desktop: http://www.digitaltigers.com/zenview-powertriohd.shtml

anyway, about your PC: I recommend you spend your money on the best goddamned motherboard you can afford, matching fast RAM, and whatever you have leftover on a lowend CPU. upgrading a CPU later is easy and painless, upgrading a motherboard later is a serious headache. I recommend ASUS motherboards, and think you should go with one with "deluxe" in the name - then in six months when you've got a little spending cash again, you can double the speed of your system for a few hundred bucks without having to reinstall any of your software or fuck around with drivers. good motherboards hold their value way longer than expensive new CPUs.

[mux]

Originally Posted by rawb

SHOW OF HANDS WHO HERE HAS A PROBLEM WITH THEIR AUDIO PCS OVERHEATING THAT REQUIRES MORE HARDWARE THEN 1 OR 2 MORE $5 CASEFANS

depends on which one - my desktop PC has a 120mm and two 80mm fans, along with an 80mm CPU fan. the only time I have a problem is when I run 3D stuff (like, basically, my screensaver, I don't play games on my studio machines), 'cause I've disconnected the fan on my video card. I should really just add a limiter, but I haven't gotten to the store lately.

my live-pa machine is a13"-deep 1U rackmount PC with a dual-core 2GHz Athlon64 processor and 2G of RAM - it has an 80mm blower on the cpu, three 80mm blowers on the case, and two 60mm 'screamers' on the powersupply. it's not even *remotely* quiet, but it's cool and stable on stage. :)

[rawb]

BIGGER SLOWER FANS = LESS NOISE
ITS NOT LIKE THE ONLY ANSWER TO 'NOISY PC FANS' IS 'RUNNING A CONDUCTIVE LIQUID THROUGH MY EXPENSIVE ELECTRICAL COMPONENTS'

[ppcock]

rawb

you'd be much cooler if you alternated caps.

[rawb]

GOOD POINT ON THE MOTHERBOARD
LISTEN, A LOT OF PEOPLE OVERLOOK THE MOTHERBOARD WHEN BUILDING A PC

A GOOD MOTHERBOARD CAN MAKE MORE DIFFERENCE THAN THE AMOUNT OF RAM AND THE SPEED OF THE CPU, ESP WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT LATENCY. IT DOESNT MATTER HOW BIG YOUR MEMORY CACHE IS OR HOW FAST FIREWIRE DEVICES ARE WHEN THINGS ARE SHARING A SLOW BUS WITH YOUR VIDEO CARD/HARD DRIVES

DONT BE CHEAP

[ppcock]

im too scared to overclock my mobo currently.

I know i can, but its fine the way it is. Im only playing css and looking at spyware filled porno.

[Gusto]

Originally Posted by mux

one of my bosses is building a central watercooling system for his house; in and out pipes near ever desk, and a water loop out to a radiator in his garage... cooling for all his computers. apparently it's almost done. he's a maniac - he's also running this monitor on his desktop: http://www.digitaltigers.com/zenview-powertriohd.shtml

haha yeah but he does that because he's a geek, not for the incredible performance increase.

[mux]

Originally Posted by Gusto

haha yeah but he does that because he's a geek, not for the incredible performance increase.

heh, yeah, like I said, he's a maniac. :D

http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...nufacture=ASUS
^^ that's a damned nice motherboard right there. The firewire chipset is Texas Instruments, too, which means it works well with MOTU and other firewire audio cards.

I can't tell whether or not it'd support quad-core Intel chips tho. :(

[Digital Over]

in any regard...that's a nice motherboard.... =)