Serato Scratch Live SSL vs Traktor Scratch?

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Phrenetic

technically speaking i dont see a point. burn a cd? a laptop and SSL Box are an extra 2 things that could fail.

Most cd players play mp3s now anyway...

Putting more than 4 songs on a single CD is a pain, and if you have everything on your laptop organized into crates and arranged alphabetically, then it's much easier to siphon through than trying to find X CD in your pile, or rather if you have an mp3 CD, trying to figure out which goddamn track song X is on. This can be a real pain, regardless of whether or not you write down on a piece of paper what tracks are what.

That being said, why anybody would prefer CDJ emulation over vinyl emulation is completely beyond me...

[Phrenetic]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Putting more than 4 songs on a single CD is a pain, and if you have everything on your laptop organized into crates and arranged alphabetically, then it's much easier to siphon through than trying to find X CD in your pile, or rather if you have an mp3 CD, trying to figure out which goddamn track song X is on. This can be a real pain, regardless of whether or not you write down on a piece of paper what tracks are what.

That being said, why anybody would prefer CDJ emulation over vinyl emulation is completely beyond me...

my cds are in the form of "singles" been working for me very well.
also if i have something pre-planned out i have CD1 and CD2 with all in order. cdjs have a nice folder and ID3 display for mp3 cds and you can go through tracks in a flash.

i think most people use SSL with cds because of the visual aids :P

[Kraig]

The Serato control box is rock solid... Mac's are also solid and I have rarely ever seen either of those fail. I've seen more CDJ's themselves fail vs. Serato.

As far as for peoples preference of CDJ's vs. Turntables -- it absolutely is DJ/interface preference. Some prefer the tactile response of control vinyl, others control CDJ's - I find it usually varies based on the genre although that isn't always the case.

When I play House, I'm typically playing alongside or before/after another DJ who plays regular CD's. Put that in combination with the fact that their is rarely enough room to setup both 2 turntables, 2 CDJ's and a mixer at a club and you have my reason for using control CD's in that instance.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Phrenetic

my cds are in the form of "singles" been working for me very well.
also if i have something pre-planned out i have CD1 and CD2 with all in order. cdjs have a nice folder and ID3 display for mp3 cds and you can go through tracks in a flash.

i think most people use SSL with cds because of the visual aids :P

Well, you're not everybody.

Not to mention, when you're dealing with the stuff that a lot of pro digital DJs deal with - namely pre-released tracks and bootlegs and whatnot - if you have your CD wallet stolen (like Sander K did last year) then all those songs are now out in the open. With a laptop there's always the option of encrypting your HDD, so if you lose it people are basically effed.

Personally I haven't bought a CD in years. Maybe because I usually only purchase vinyl, but also because I like the way I'm able to scan through an MP3 collection way better. First thing I did when I last started rebuilding my mp3s was to rip all the CDs.

I dunno, working from a library rather than trying to find the appropriate disc just seems a bit easier.

[Phrenetic]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Well, you're not everybody.

Not to mention, when you're dealing with the stuff that a lot of pro digital DJs deal with - namely pre-released tracks and bootlegs and whatnot - if you have your CD wallet stolen (like Sander K did last year) then all those songs are now out in the open. With a laptop there's always the option of encrypting your HDD, so if you lose it people are basically effed.

Personally I haven't bought a CD in years. Maybe because I usually only purchase vinyl, but also because I like the way I'm able to scan through an MP3 collection way better. First thing I did when I last started rebuilding my mp3s was to rip all the CDs.

I dunno, working from a library rather than trying to find the appropriate disc just seems a bit easier.

encrypting your HHD eh?


only point i see to use control cds is if you want to spin FLAC files or Extremely high quality wav files.

i think im living in a different world here

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Kraig

The Serato control box is rock solid... Mac's are also solid and I have rarely ever seen either of those fail. I've seen more CDJ's themselves fail vs. Serato.

Not the best of arguments, considering if you're using control CDs as opposed to records, you stand just as much of a chance of the CDJs failing as you do without Serato.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by Phrenetic

encrypting your HHD eh?

If you're a pro that deals with tracks that won't see the record press or beatport for another year, to not encrypt your HDD is a big mistake. But again, I'm talking pros here.

only point i see to use control cds is if you want to spin FLAC files or Extremely high quality wav files.

Um, how is spinning with control CDs any different in this respect to spinning with control records? The quality of the file is determined by the file on the laptop, not the media of the control discs.

i think im living in a different world here

Not gonna argue. =P

[mapleleaf4ever]

Originally Posted by Phrenetic

i never really seen the point of control cds. care to explain what the point is anyone?

flexibility. obviously.

Kraig pretty much summed it up.

Sometimes there aren't Vinyl Turntables so you can bust out the control CD's and have at it.

[Phrenetic]

no argument about vinyl.

just the using CDS - have no point! flexability? WTF?!?!

[mapleleaf4ever]

sure it has a point... if you don't have turntables and only have CDJs but want the functionality of Serato Scratch you can have it.

wtf is so hard to understand about that? why burn 1000's of CDs when all you need is two and your laptop?

[Phrenetic]

Originally Posted by mapleleaf4ever

sure it has a point... if you don't have turntables and only have CDJs but want the functionality of Serato Scratch you can have it

whats this functionality you speak of?

mp3 databases and searching? or 2 lines you match up to beatmatch for you? :P

[ebbomega]

Centralized library. Seriously man, how many times do we have to go over this?

[Phrenetic]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

Centralized library. Seriously man, how many times do we have to go over this?

i have a cd case and eyes, thats all i need :p

[dj_soo]

^ some people tend to play more than one genre, one bpm, or one hour for the night and require a more versatile selection of tunes for their gigs. Having access to your entire library instead of just a couple hundred tunes helps a lot in some gigs.

As for the CDJ part, some people just prefer platter djing...

[Phrenetic]

fair enough but rummaging through your crate or flipping through cd's during a gig is part of the performance. watching someone drop a needle and cue something up is better than watching someone checking their emails.

to me at least

[Phrenetic]

don't get me wrong, im going to be a proud SSL user for Vinyl but i fail to see the use for control cd's. mabey i will discover what the hype is about

[Drazkers]

Originally Posted by Phrenetic

i never really seen the point of control cds. care to explain what the point is anyone?

Well if your a trance dj or your doing really long fade ins, control cds have an advantage as they have zero drift. A DVS and vinyl has a small level of drift going on. Where as, cds don't, this isn't a major advantage, its slight so it's not difficult to correct. This is why some diehard vinyl people say that a DVS doesn't feel right.