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  #26 (permalink)  
Old Oct 30, 06
blau
 
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I can access company mail via IMAP4 and POP - not with BES, but with VPN and various other 1st and 3rd party programs.
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Old Oct 30, 06
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Reason's it's "useless" - my phone can already do everything that the pearl can do but mine has a *much* better camera...
I have a digital camera, why would i want an inferior one integrated into my phone? in a quick situation, the 2MP cam in the berry is more than enough to take a quick shot to email/mms someone if the need arises.

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Reasons for WiFi:

#1 cut costs on surfing, e-mail, etc.

1) why would you web browse anything but text only on a screen that size? that's fucking stupid. you need to see your google map or some image, click on it and it loads, tada!

also, why would you wait until yo go to a wifi spot for your email? why would you rock anything but push email? whats the point of having your phone on you all the time if you wave to wait to go home/to the coffee spot/to a friends house before you check to see if someone is trying to get a hold of you? why would you let an email with huge attachments reach your phone? if your email traffic for a month is more than 3 megabytes a month then something is wrong. i get constant email from clients and my total data for a month is around 10 or 11 megs, heavy web and messenger included.

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#2 cut cost on phone calls by making calls on VOIP or SKYPE (probably more of a near future type thing)
2) where are you making these calls? starbucks? the ubc sub? yeah, tell me how those 2-bar strength skype calls turn out from the middle of the coffee shop while everyone around you is leeching oink and bearshare. other than the coffee shop, anywhere else i can think of that has wi-fi also has a landline i can use, or has a computer. is this really a selling point, making a free call or two once or twice a week/month? are you saving any time or money?

a blackberry is the best mobile device for email, hands down. it was built from the ground up as a phone that does email. it has the best text input of any phone i've used, even on the smaller form factors (pearl, 7100 series). the pearls track ball is the best pointing device ive had the pleasure of using.

symbian/palmOS/windowsmobile phones are phones that try to be pcs. they are powerful and extensible, but they dont do anything exceedingly well. all of the great shiny features you show your friends the first month or two dont really matter when you're actually trying to get work done.

it's the well made car vs fast car argument. a lambo is cute for a while but is very low on practicality, but i'd rather be driven around in a maybach every day because it is designed with the ride in mind.

you're basically saying 'HAHA UR CAR SUX CUZ MY CARZ FASTER', you just dont appreciate quality, but you will some day.

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Old Oct 30, 06
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I can access company mail via IMAP4 and POP - not with BES, but with VPN and various other 1st and 3rd party programs.
so no push email and you need to run another program, useless.
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Old Oct 30, 06
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you're just not seeing the bigger picture. Why limit yourself to simply ota data transfer or edge or gprs when you can have all that *and* wifi on top of that.

And for the comments on having to "go somewhere" for wifi. Toronto is now universally wifi - it's only a matter of time before vancouver is too. just planning for the future.

Not saying that my device is "better" (other than the camera) just hoping to see more intergrated features like Wifi in a phone cause it just gives you more options. For some reason, all phones that are available in canada never include wifi and for the life of me i can't figure out why (it's been available in european and asian devices for a while now).

The trackball does seem pretty cool tho.
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Old Oct 30, 06
blau
 
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and yea, i have to actually press 2 buttons to access my e-mail :-\
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Old Oct 30, 06
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do you have to press anything to know that you have email though? yeah, it would be nice if the pearl had wifi, but i'd still take it over most other devices, just for how it handles email alone. guess it all depends on what you use it for.
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Old Oct 30, 06
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you're just not seeing the bigger picture. Why limit yourself to simply ota data transfer or edge or gprs when you can have all that *and* wifi on top of that.

And for the comments on having to "go somewhere" for wifi. Toronto is now universally wifi - it's only a matter of time before vancouver is too. just planning for the future.
ok, so now you get phone calls in starbucks, the ubc sub, and some areas of toronto ;) by the time city-wide-wireless is in vancouver it will be wimax spec and your phone will be useless.

having wifi on my phone would be cool, but i don't know when i'd use it to be honest. my email gets pushed through the cell network, and web browsing text-only is more than fast enough on a edge connection. im glad development time went into refining the ui and the input methods.

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Not saying that my device is "better" (other than the camera) just hoping to see more intergrated features like Wifi in a phone cause it just gives you more options.
i agree that options are great, but sometimes one device that does one or two things very well is better than one device that does many things with varying degrees of proficiency.
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Old Oct 30, 06
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WiFi is a key selection criteria for me in choosing a phone. I wouldn't buy one without it these days.. probably the key reason is that we are at the dawn of the uPNP era, where any uPNP enabled device can control to any other over WiFi, so your phone becomes the remote for your stereo, PC, DVD player, squeezbox, refrigerator, champagne cooler, whatever. Networked objects-- one day every household appliance will be wifi-enabled! Also I like to transfer photos to my PC at high-speed. Bluetooth is too slow.

BTW web browsing on late model Nokias is actually a pleasant experience with their zoomable MiniMap browser and large displays. The phone worth waiting for is the Nokia N95-- Symbian 9.2, infrared port, 5 megapixel camera, MicroSD slot, 2.6" screen, HSPDA, 150MB internal, TV out, 1/8 inch audio out, etc. Convergence! *squeal*

http://www.nokia.com/nseries/index.html#product,n95

Q1 2007.
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Old Oct 30, 06
blau
 
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yea but you're in London. You can actually get that when it comes out, unlike here in Canada.
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Old Oct 30, 06
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london was shit for phone reception, every time you take the tube you're out of the network, raugh! i think i hopped to every gprs network in the city from taking transit so much.

i couldnt live with being out of the loop for that long of a time.
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Old Oct 30, 06
rip zilla.
 
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ken. we should totally get berrys so we can be berry friends.



yah nat...i totally have pearl envy.

Last edited by ash1ee; Oct 30, 06 at 06:22 PM.
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  #37 (permalink)  
Old Nov 03, 06
www.total-digital.co.uk
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Digital Over will become famous soon enough
Looks interesting....I need a device which I can upload some of my own mp3s...send them off to where-ever, and all the other gits and gadgets that come with it....Can pearl do that too?...Thanks for the info y'all :y: =)
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  #38 (permalink)  
Old Nov 03, 06
www.total-digital.co.uk
 
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Everything looks really cool. just REALLY REALLY don't like that keypad...I'm toren between Pearl and (Nokia E62) hmmmm.....

Last edited by Digital Over; Nov 03, 06 at 04:55 PM.
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Old Nov 03, 06
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The nokias nice but the BB is just plain sexy
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Old Nov 03, 06
blau
 
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dj_soo is just really nicedj_soo is just really nicedj_soo is just really nicedj_soo is just really nicedj_soo is just really nicedj_soo is just really nice
E61 is better - not available here tho :(
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Old Nov 03, 06
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^ Ive seen them on craigslist
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Old Nov 03, 06
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*swoon*

I'm in trouble bc now Chris wants one. I was ignoring my urges, but now he's on board. fuck. fuck. fuck.
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  #43 (permalink)  
Old Nov 03, 06
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my ipaq does everything i want it too so i'm happy.

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Old Nov 03, 06
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Old Nov 03, 06
www.total-digital.co.uk
 
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Digital Over will become famous soon enough
I'll be getting one after work, just gotta see a few in action first...FINALLY I'll be mobile!

Akeel: I was seriously considering the ipaq, but can you upload mp3s on there and send them as out going attatchments? (that's 6/10 of the reason why I'm looking at the Nokia and the Pearl...)
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Old Nov 03, 06
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its rather nice
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Old Nov 03, 06
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I'll be getting one after work, just gotta see a few in action first...FINALLY I'll be mobile!

Akeel: I was seriously considering the ipaq, but can you upload mp3s on there and send them as out going attatchments? (that's 6/10 of the reason why I'm looking at the Nokia and the Pearl...)
it has bluetooth and wifi (must buy a wifi card), plus sd and mini sd card support...right now I have a 1 gig sd card in there thats loaded full of mp3s since the deck in my car plays sd card...i dont see why it wouldnt be able to send emails with mp3 attachments, and you'll probably wanna do that over wifi anyway because of the bandwidth.
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Old Nov 03, 06
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You're a legend Akeel! Cheers! :sixpak:
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Old Nov 03, 06
Straight Outta Mocash
 
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i got a pearl today.
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Old Nov 03, 06
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a pearl necklace?
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