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Old Feb 22, 07
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US Soldiers Admit to Rape & Murder of 14yr Old & Execution of Her Family

FULL STORY HERE OFF THE BBC

A second US soldier's plea of guilty to the gang rape of a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and the killing of her and her family has been accepted by a judge.

Sgt Paul Cortez admitted four murders, rape and conspiracy to rape. His plea means he will avoid the death penalty.


In November, Specialist James Barker, 24, admitted rape and murder over the killings and was jailed for 90 years.



He said: "During the time me and Barker were raping Abeer, I heard five or six gunshots that came from the bedroom.


"After Barker was done, Green came out of the bedroom and said that he had killed them all, that all of them were dead."


Cortez added: "Green then placed himself between Abeer's legs to rape her. When Green was finished, he stood up and shot Abeer in the head two or three times."

The entire crime took about five minutes and the girl knew her parents and sister had been shot while she was being raped, the hearing heard.
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This is beyond word. My lexicon is utterly under-equipped to describe the disgust that this story makes me feel. What makes this story all the more sickening is the fact that this son-of-a-bitch has managed to escape the death penalty. On top of that, the complete failure of any sort of managment and training here just pushes this beyond the pale.

A Note: Please, please, please don't turn this thread into a damnation of the entire US Army. There are good men and women that are fighting the good fight all over the world and not just in Iraq. These few men are no different than the serial killers out in the civilian population. You wouldn't condem the entire population of BC based on Pickton's actions.
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US Soldier Gets 100 Years for Iraq Rape & Killing - Follow up Story at CNN

FORT CAMPBELL, Kentucky (AP) -- A U.S. soldier was sentenced to 100 years in prison Thursday for the gang rape and murder of an Iraqi girl and the killing of her family last year.


Sgt. Paul E. Cortez, 24, also was given a dishonorable discharge. He will be eligible for parole in 10 years under the terms of his plea agreement.
Cortez, of Barstow, California, pleaded guilty this week to four counts of felony murder, rape and conspiracy to rapein a case considered among the worst atrocities by U.S. military personnel in Iraq.

The military judge hearing the case, Col. Stephen R. Henley, issued a sentence of life in prison without parole, the maximum for the charges. Under military law, the defendant is given the lesser sentence unless he violates terms of the plea agreement, which requires Cortez to testify against others charged in the case.
Psychologist Charles Figley testified that Cortez and the other soldiers likely suffered stress brought on by fatigue and trauma.


"It eats you up," Figley said. "It's a horrible thing. This is not unique. We've seen this in other wars."


Five soldiers who served with Cortez in Iraq testified that his actions were out of character and described the hardships of war they experienced, including sleep deprivation and the lack of running water.


Prosecutors said the stress was no excuse for the actions of Cortez and the other soldiers from the 101st Airborne Division, based at Fort Campbell.
On Wednesday, Cortez described raping the girl in her family's home in Mahmoudiya last March, along with Spc. James Barker, 24. Barker pleaded guilty in November to rape and murder and was sentenced to 90 years in military prison.
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First off, 10 years. Ten fucking years. For Murdering an innocent, civilian family and raping and murdering their 14-year old daughter. What the fuck has happened to any semblance of justice?! Are you seriously going to try and play off sleep deprivation and dehydration as an excuse for such atrocity? How can you possibly make that claim? What God-Damned basis do you have to qualify the actions of these animals? How on earth will the neighbors of that family react? How will their town react? How will the people of Iraq react to such a judgement?
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pedophiles get what they deserve in prison.
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^very true, they usually don't last more than a few weeks in general pop.
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^very true, they usually don't last more than a few weeks in general pop.
Try and remember these guys are trained soldiers. Yeah, they could get mobbed, but they are combat trained. I'd prefer it if they had to serve their sentance in Iraq.
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It breaks my heart.

There are hundreds of rape incidents and unexplainable murders because of the war. It's so sad.
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Old Feb 22, 07
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Its so sad we cant trust solders, ironically who are fighting for peace.I really have hard time understanding where ideas of such sick actions come from. And you know if these few can come out and admit what they did, you can imagine what we dont hear :(
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There will definately be some huge men waiting for them in prison.
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Try and remember these guys are trained soldiers. Yeah, they could get mobbed, but they are combat trained. I'd prefer it if they had to serve their sentance in Iraq.
Ahh but i will also point out, they are in a military prison, everyone else is trained at fighting as welll.. and has spent much more time hitting the weights... not to mention american soldeirs are some of the worst trained hand to hand combat troops in the world due to heavy reliances on rifle butts, knives, and other such objects.
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wow... that's awful.

It's sickening
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Fighting in Iraq may be the prelude to Armageddon.

Below describes the four angels of destruction ready but bound at the river Euphrates, and now they are released to hurt humankind, even to kill a third of mankind.

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"And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,

Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men."

Revelation 9:13-15
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^^ the third part of men and the voice coming from the four horns of the alter before God could be interpreted metaphysically or in many other ways.
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Its so sad we cant trust solders, ironically who are fighting for peace.
*Fighting* for peace?! You don't actually believe that I hope..

This kinda shit makes you so mad you can't even really express it in words. The thing that makes me mad is these soldiers are trained to go through villages and kill people who are left near bomb sites and what not, but it's obviously not something they admit. So they go around confident they can get away with shit like that, and in most cases do.
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^^ the third part of men and the voice coming from the four horns of the alter before God could be interpreted metaphysically or in many other ways.
such as
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well if you look up the verse's you see there are different translations where the sentences are structured differently. The point i was making was that a lot of these canonical texts can be taken as didactic or allegorical. Revelation's validity has been contested and since it is canonical then it must have been used for some political reason. The church didn't select certain texts and leave others out for no reason at all.
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well if you look up the verse's you see there are different translations where the sentences are structured differently. The point i was making was that a lot of these canonical texts can be taken as didactic or allegorical. Revelation's validity has been contested and since it is canonical then it must have been used for some political reason. The church didn't select certain texts and leave others out for no reason at all.
so really you just wanted to plug the fact that you saw Davinci code.
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^^^ lol.
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^very true, they usually don't last more than a few weeks in general pop.
That's why they never put them in gp and keep them in pc.

Peds are never in gp, never.

They protect them, give them counselling because pedophilia is believed to be an psychological illness that can be treated.

I too believe it can be treated.

With a bullet in the head.
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I too believe it can be treated.

With a bullet in the head.
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They protect them, give them counselling because pedophilia is believed to be an psychological illness that can be treated.

I too believe it can be treated.

With a bullet in the head.
I think this is the most intelligent thing you've ever posted on this board. :p
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^very true, they usually don't last more than a few weeks in general pop.
They never put pedophiles in general population, because they know what the other inmates will do to them. They have a word for people like them in jail, "skinners" and if they were ever to be mixed in with general population for any reason.. they would be fucked
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so really you just wanted to plug the fact that you saw Davinci code.
How does what i said have anything to do with the Da Vinci Code? I was merely stating that your cliche doomsday speculations were merely that, speculation. Looking at the new testament as a didactic text that teaches moral lessons rather than predict future events is far from the "esoteric" knowledge of the Da Vinci Code.

So why don't you stop fronting like you can win this argument?
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Old Feb 24, 07
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That's why they never put them in gp and keep them in pc.

Peds are never in gp, never.

They protect them, give them counselling because pedophilia is believed to be an psychological illness that can be treated.

I too believe it can be treated.

With a bullet in the head.

Yeh need i remind us of this newsbit from the summer:

http://abcnews.go.com/International/...ory?id=2202895

Once you view this type of behaviour as a disorder and start protecting these type of people they start banding together feeling they have a right to legitimize their behaviour, makes me sick.
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