Girl: "Looking for a guy with money." Guy with money: "no thanks"

[SEAN!]

Originally Posted by thebobman

For those of us without a coke habit or a black-crack (aka vinyl) habit, $250k/yr is not abject poverty. In New York, yes. But why would you wanna deal with all those assholes when you could just move to Europe for the same money?

no really 250k isnt that much..if your a single guy in his twenties (which is what most NYC bankers are) yeah its decent even by NY standards. However if you have a family and some kids, even in Vancouver its not that much at all. If you think about what 250k gets you, my parents make more then that combined and my family is not all rolling benzos or anything that is really out of the ordinary.

Also its true that NYC is expensive but essentially you're sayingthat europe is some proasic paradise, the reality is that any place in europe thats worth living in is as expensive as new york or much much more. If you think vancouver is expensive then you really dont have a clue.

Originally Posted by kir mokum

BACK TO THE KITCHEN WITH YOU! MY STEAK ISN'T GOING TO COOK ITSELF.

ill make you your steak if you have the chedda!

[diva]

I think it's really interesting that men can be picky when it comes to a woman's looks, but when a woman wants to date a guy with money she's automatically considered to be a gold digger.

It's just the way the world works. Men want a pretty lady with good genes (and a nice uterus) so his kids don't turn out ugly. Women want men who can pay for private school tuition for the kids.

Also, it's really only broke/uneducated men who get upset and cry about this. Men who have money understand that in this world, all things being equal, women go for financial security.

Fortunately for some, and unfortunately for others, that's just the way the world works.

[Grapes]

Because money is just a paper manifestation of power, and power is what it's all about.

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by diva

Fortunately for some, and unfortunately for others, that's just the way the world works.

For what it's worth I think guys who date based on looks alone are just as shallow...

Has nothing to do with gender, has everything to do with trying to find a real connection with someone else. Frankly, if you can get yourself a sugar daddy and be happy with them power to you. But it's the being happy part that's tricky, and if the only thing on your mind is money/looks, get set for disappoinment.

[diva]

Is it harder to find a real connection with a guy who has a lot of money?

Is it harder to find a real connection with a woman who looks like Charlize Theron?

I don't think it is, so going back to the original post (the woman who wrote the ad never said she wasn't going to love the guy), what's the big deal?

[ebbomega]

Yeah, but it seems to be her ONLY stipulation. And she makes a big deal about it. To a prospective boyfriend it doesn't really sound like she's interested in much other than pockets, couldn't really care less who the guy is behind them as long as he keeps the pockets filled. She goes on a freaking essay almost about how all she wants is money. I understand looking for someone with a stable career living in the lifestyle you so desire, so just say your desired salary amongst what else you're looking for in a mate and leave it at that. But she doesn't do that. She focuses on the one thing like it's the most important thing in a relationship. THAT is being shallow.

[Grapes]

^ Well said..

"Oh, and by the way, I'll love you forever"

[Grapes]

Basically, if money is a manifestation of power like I said, then this girl wants to become instantly all powerful, (and she thinks her looks are all she requires to deserve it), as opposed to a girl who falls for a guy because she thinks he's really going to make something of himself down the road because he's an amazing person.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by SEAN!

no really 250k isnt that much..if your a single guy in his twenties (which is what most NYC bankers are) yeah its decent even by NY standards. However if you have a family and some kids, even in Vancouver its not that much at all. If you think about what 250k gets you, my parents make more then that combined and my family is not all rolling benzos or anything that is really out of the ordinary.

I think that's pretty subjective. My family's income was far far below that, and we lived very comfortably.

[kir mokum]

this is great, over the course of this discussion i've harboured even more animosity towards humanity.

[kir mokum]

Originally Posted by diva

I think it's really interesting that men can be picky when it comes to a woman's looks, but when a woman wants to date a guy with money she's automatically considered to be a gold digger.

It's just the way the world works. Men want a pretty lady with good genes (and a nice uterus) so his kids don't turn out ugly. Women want men who can pay for private school tuition for the kids.

Also, it's really only broke/uneducated men who get upset and cry about this. Men who have money understand that in this world, all things being equal, women go for financial security.

Fortunately for some, and unfortunately for others, that's just the way the world works.

you are one fucked up bitch. i just wanted to point that out.

[Gusto]

Originally Posted by diva

I think it's really interesting that men can be picky when it comes to a woman's looks, but when a woman wants to date a guy with money she's automatically considered to be a gold digger.

you're comparing apples and oranges. if a guy married/dated for money he'd be a gold digger too. and when a woman picks only based on looks, she's just as shallow as a man who does the same thing.

[kir mokum]

fact: looks is an integral part of a sexual relationship. goldigging is not.

ideally a relationship is about equality. the relationships being discussed here are based on (bad) game theory, misanthropy, short sighted selfishness, psychopathy, mistrust, power, and pretty much everything else that makes our world suck.

[decypher]

Originally Posted by Grapes

Basically, if money is a manifestation of power like I said, then this girl wants to become instantly all powerful, (and she thinks her looks are all she requires to deserve it), as opposed to a girl who falls for a guy because she thinks he's really going to make something of himself down the road because he's an amazing person.

Exactly, It is about power and structure. She's looking to increase her self-worth through her looks and that's a dead-end road. It sounds like she has a distorted view of the world that's provided by E! News. Girls who put their whole brains behind that kind of objectification only see the world as a series of negotiations based on looks and wealth.

Originally Posted by kir mokum

fact: looks is an integral part of a sexual relationship. goldigging is not.

ideally a relationship is about equality. the relationships being discussed here are based on (bad) game theory, misanthropy, short sighted selfishness, psychopathy, mistrust, power, and pretty much everything else that makes our world suck.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE STEAK?????

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by kir mokum

you are one fucked up bitch. i just wanted to point that out.

I'm just gonna take this opportunity to call out Esi. 20:1 odds she's just being devil's advocate....

WHY'S IT ALWAYS GOTTA BE ABOUT GENDER, GIRL?

[kir mokum]

can't we have equality AND steak?

[kir mokum]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

I'm just gonna take this opportunity to call out Esi. 20:1 odds she's just being devil's advocate....

if that's the case then she sucks at it.

[Gusto]

Originally Posted by Grapes

Because money is just a paper manifestation of power, and power is what it's all about.

it's more than just that though. money also provides comfort and stability, which could be what she's looking for. just the good/easy life. while power is definitely a factor, this is often the difference between somene who makes money and someone who just spends it.

[Grapes]

I'm using "power" in a fairly broad sense... I'm not necessarily imagining someone who likes using his wealth to push people around when I deem someone financially powerful. The ability to provide comfort and the good/easy life is very much what the power of money is all about.

It's funny to think about.. in the beginnings of our species an attractive male was someone who offered a mate the best chance of a healthy family... someone who was strong/fit, sharp, resourceful, etc... and therefore would offer that kind of stability you're talking about. Now basically as long as the guy is loaded, he can offer that same stability.

Or is that debateable?

[Grapes]

Originally Posted by decypher

It sounds like she has a distorted view of the world that's provided by E! News.

DON'T YOU BE BAD MOUTHING MY E! NEWS KAM

[ebbomega]

I prefer to think of money as a metaphor for energy.

And yes, Dave. That's plenty debatable. Having gone to a private school that rich people send their kids to from halfway around the world, there can be PLENTY of serious dysfunction in a rich family.

[diva]

kir mokum, it would be really nice if every human being was judged based on the content of their character and all that other stuff, but life isn't always fair.

it's been proven that if you're hot by society's standards you'll have an easier time getting a job, finding a husband, making friends, and other stuff that ugly to average looking people struggle at attaining.

you get similar perks when you have a lot of money.

why are you getting so mad? i didn't make these rules. if you want to embark on a crusade to change the world, more power to you.

in my world it really is what's on the inside that should count (well usually) but unfortunately, people tend to see what's on the outside first.

reality bites. deal with it.

[kir mokum]

so by your logic you're OK with being a constantly depreciating product who's value (at best) is not much more than a high price hooker, as long as you're young, have nice tits, and a tight cunt, and will probably be replaced for a new model sooner than you'd like to think. eventually you'll find yourself at 40 with a dried up cunt, saggy or fake leather tits, more work on your face than joan rivers, and so very alone with no understanding how to actually meet people, especially people who actually might want to have a conversation with you, not that you could hold a conversation. personally, rich or poor i don't have time to fuck vapid idiots like you or the original craigslist girl. you value as human beings is pretty much zero.

the only people who follow these "rules" are people who have nothing to offer other than their bodies or their money. both of which were inherited from their parents. i don't care about changing the minds of the few human cancers that follow these "rules" because they're a shrinking population, not the "world" like you say, and they'll probably just breed themselves out eventually or their fortunes will dry up or they'll go down in a blaze of glory, ruining their looks, reputation, and riches in the process. i think it's hilarious that people actually want to be a fucking paris hilton debutante/socialite. personally i've never really dealt with this mentality and i would laugh maniacally in someones face if they told me in person that the key to their happiness was to marry a rich guy/girl and coast on his/her coattails for the rest of their life and become a socialite/trophy wife.

and i didn't say anything about content of character. you don't know what my opinion is other than i think your's is fucked up. and it is. it's basically an evolutionarily unstable strategy, leads to inbreeding, is amoral, etc, etc, and could easily be used to argue for things like slavery, human ownership, women being property, etc, etc.