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Old Dec 07, 07
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So what we should garner is Portugal takes scintillating young talent and expertly converts it into underachievment?
or we could take england over-blowing the actual talent that they have to super stardom levels and then achieving a mediocre turnout like they have.

real talent vs publicity.

you make the call.
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Old Dec 07, 07
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Lol to say England doesn't have real talent is a bit silly. What they don't have is coaching, poise, and organization.

Sounds like we might poach José Mourinho to coach the national side in the future. That'd address a lot of those issues in a big way.

Interesting that he'd be considering that job over the soon to be vacant position coaching his own national side.
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I never said that they didn't have actual talent.

What I said is they blow the level of it completely out of proportion.
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Old Dec 07, 07
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im cheering for spain. Fuck yeah. too bad im in the workforce now. I skipped class for every euro 2006 match televised... probably lost at least 15% a class.. but i cant skip work... so that suckss
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I never said that they didn't have actual talent.

What I said is they blow the level of it completely out of proportion.
If you say "real talent vs publicity" it implies a lack of real talent on the "publicity" end.

"real talent vs real talent" doesn't make much sense, maybe you should have gone with "performance vs hype"

Meanwhile, when you say "they" who do you mean? I don't think the team or coaches blow anything out of proportion; if anything they try and quell the hype.. and the media as often as not is sarcastic about our supposed chances (of course, I did read the Guardian almost exclusively..) It's the ridiculous expectations of the fans that become an anchor weighing us down. The populous over there is bonkers... their motto is "England expects"..

I figure if we hoped instead of expecting (which becomes demanding), the team would have a lot more poise in big games. Instead they play with their hands around their necks.

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im cheering for spain.
Heh... another group of underachievers... aren't there any Brazil or Italy fans here??
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Old Jun 02, 08
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Old Jun 02, 08
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Old Jun 06, 08
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So who wants to get together for brunch tomorrow to watch the portugal vs turkey match?
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Old Jun 06, 08
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Where? I'm interested. Opening match right?

what else we got? I'm looking at Spain.
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Old Jun 06, 08
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blah, spain isnt till the 10th.
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So who wants to get together for brunch tomorrow to watch the portugal vs turkey match?
Didn't I tell you yesterday it's at 7pm?

I'll have some beers and watch with you though.

Might even pretend to be going for Portugal :P
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Old Jun 06, 08
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Didn't I tell you yesterday it's at 7pm?

I'll have some beers and watch with you though.

Might even pretend to be going for Portugal :P

yeah, well from the two teams.. knowing portugal is going to kill turkey, might as well cheer for portugal, it doesnt get you beaten up and you also please Jim.

Not wearing a kit though.
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I'm all about pleasing Jim.

(no homo)

But Turkey is a viable footballing nation, the result is not a forgone conclusion.

How much I cheer for Portugal will probably be directly inverse to how much Jim rubs it in that England didn't qualify.
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Old Jun 06, 08
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Yeah, i was looking at the groups, neither did France.

but who really cares about France?
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I actually became a fan of France in World Cup 2006 after England got knocked out (much to my surprise..)

For one thing, they raised their game to a masterful level, and were great to watch, esp players like Zidane and Ribery. For another thing, they knocked out Brazil, which put an end to all the annoying samba lines marching around Trafalgar Square. And then they beat Portugal, which lead to this:

Awww..

And I was officially a fan :)
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Man I could leave that playing for hours..
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Old Jun 06, 08
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yah chris, get behind mike and dave.. they beat you to it.
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FYI Euro fans.. just discovered that on some days TSN has live games and Sportsnet has replays.. and on other days it's the other way around.

Go figure. TSN is just finishing with Czech vs Swiss right now, and will have Portugal vs Turkey just before noon. Which means Jim is right, as usual.

In other news, Euro without England is like eggs Benny without hollandaise. :(
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