should school be more geared towards athletics or academics?

[azazel]

I say athletics, by at least an 80 to 20 percent ratio.

edit: talking about elementary to highschool level here

double edit: a kid could have this kind of shaping experience in the most formative years of his life



or he could have this one

[wishbone]

you hate the system, so your solution is for us to run around outside about it?

[azazel]

Originally Posted by wishbone

you hate the system, so your solution is for us to run around outside about it?

i think my last thread was too radical for people.

[wishbone]

lol i like how this is the ultimatum solution you came up with :p <3

[Drazkers]

Originally Posted by azazel

i think my last thread was too radical for people.

You keep starting threads that are obviously gonna piss people off, you know people are going to think that education being geared to athletics is a stupid idea. Stop trolling.

[azazel]

Originally Posted by Drazkers

You keep starting threads that are obviously gonna piss people off, you know people are going to think that education being geared to athletics is a stupid idea. Stop trolling.

how is it a stupid idea? it's readily acknowledged that 95 percent of the things you learn in school has no practical value, but serves as more of a 'socialization' exercise. it also tells employers (apparently), that if you can stick it out that makes you a better person.

So if the whole thing is mostly a character tests, wouldn't team/individual or a mix of both sports be ideal?

[wishbone]

Originally Posted by azazel

how is it a stupid idea? it's readily acknowledged that 95 percent of the things you learn in school has no practical value, but serves as more of a 'socialization' exercise. it also tells employers (apparently), that if you can stick it out that makes you a better person.

So if the whole thing is mostly a character tests, wouldn't team/individual or a mix of both sports be ideal?

the problem is, most jobs in the real world don't require the same dynamics that sports involves. Sure, teams exist and there's the dynamics needed there, but most jobs now do not revolve around physical exertion; we sit around, think of stuff, and do smaller tasks. There's no need to train physically when most of our jobs rely on more cognitive skills. The stuff you learn in school can ultimately be useless sure, but the methods in how you learn/apply that shit does help in the real world. Processes, not knowledge, is what an education is about.

Playing california kick ball just wouldn't do the same.

[Drazkers]

Have you made any posts related to music? Why are you here?

Edit.

I also don't see how football will prepare you for physics.

[azazel]

Originally Posted by Drazkers

Have you made any posts related to music? Why are you here?

Edit.

I also don't see how football will prepare you for physics.

I think we've forgotten that most learning happens when we put the work in ourselves, as opposed to the osmosis that's supposed to occur during a lecture.

sports teaches you focus, self-discipline, hard work, and initiative; a metaphor for how live a successful life.

Basically I'm saying school is giving people the fish instead of the fishing lessons ;)

[wishbone]

Originally Posted by azazel

Basically I'm saying school is giving people the fish instead of the fishing lessons ;)

But by saying 95% of the stuff we learn is useless, shoudln't your analogy be it's like giving us the boot fished up from the bottom of the lake instead of the fishing lessons?

[azazel]

Originally Posted by wishbone

But by saying 95% of the stuff we learn is useless, shoudln't your analogy be it's like giving us the boot fished up from the bottom of the lake instead of the fishing lessons?

that works too

[Grapes]

I voted "other". Allow me to specify: I think school should be geared towards ostracizing wum and people like wum. They should be made to feel worthless and inept, so that their stupid ideas will never see the light of day in a public forum. In extreme cases, the schoolchildren should bludgeon them to death with rocks.

[-evil-duerr-]

athletics is very important, I always thought the one thing my resume could really use is

-Can do cartwheels
-Sweet at dodge ball
-Borderline homosexual change room shenanigans

[azazel]

^ sounds like someone got picked last for soccer

[-evil-duerr-]

mm nope I used to play soccer, I played defence.

it was sweet because I got to knock down the hot shots and make them cry.

LOL We learn the majority of our knowledge and skill in the first 3 years of our life.

K-12 school isnt necessarily learning facts, its about building work habits, social skills, organization, study skills, problem solving, and being creative etc.

Instead your proposing that the provincial government spend millions of tax dollars to school kids for 13 years just to teach them focus, self discipline, hard work, and initiative???

Oh wait the government does fund this... its called the Army!

What you seem to miss is the fact that many PE students cant even be bothered to demonstrate one of those skills 3 hours a week. Never mind 80% of their schooling.

[azazel]

Originally Posted by R Wellbelove

LOL We learn the majority of our knowledge and skill in the first 3 years of our life.

K-12 school isnt necessarily learning facts, its about building work habits, social skills, organization, study skills, problem solving, and being creative etc.

it seems that sports in a team context would take care of all of that except the part i bolded. :|

[Drazkers]

I come from a heavy sports background, i think all kids should be enrolled in sports year round. If you see the american schools where football players are only required to play football(free A`s). They are hardly the most open minded intelligent pupils when they hit uni.

[stringbeans]

sup how is ubc do you need more coles notes?

[tiedye]

Rhia basically nailed it. School is intended to develop and build upon skill sets while giving you a basic understanding of a broad range of knowledge. I personally never attended gym class more than a dozen times and ended up dropping out at 15. I'm now starting to realize I missed out on developing certain skills crucial for learning and understanding more complex theory. I now struggle with a lot of what I am interested in.

So wum, it's important to have a healthy balance of both. Life isn't about one or the other - it's about harmony between mind and body.

[tiedye]

Originally Posted by Drazkers

You keep starting threads that are obviously gonna piss people off, you know people are going to think that education being geared to athletics is a stupid idea. Stop trolling.

It's a valid question. You're the only one who's pissed off and I can't understand why. Drop the hostility. It's a negative seed.

[Drazkers]

Originally Posted by tiedye

It's a valid question. You're the only one who's pissed off and I can't understand why. Drop the hostility. It's a negative seed.

I was abit bent out of shape because i was checking round and there was several of these that where just becoming arguments, this one turned into a nice little conversation.

[ebbomega]

That's right asshole, bag my groceries!