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Old Jul 31, 08
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MDC had a motive and a expressed hatred for lennon and the beatles at that stage of his life.

im kinda leaning towards a random lashout in this case.

deff going to be watching it.

people don't randomly lash out though, there is a reason why he hated lennon and its likely due to mental illness.

in this stage of my life i hate souljah boy but im not gonna run up and pop him in the dome for no gain.

plus looking at MDC's history even a professional who was very critical of diagnosing people with mental illness could see that he was definitely unbalanced.
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Old Aug 01, 08
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Anyone think that this whole not releasing his name is a little bit fishy?

Like how are they going to compromise a case by releasing this guys identity when he's already 100% confirmed as the suspect?

What are they hiding?

We knew who the terrorists were after 9/11 a day later but they can't tell us this guys name now?

Certainly that investigation would be more sensitive to release that information but we got it anyway.

Maybe some sort of backstory is being fabricated now so we don't know what went wrong during this guys 'treatment' if he was mentally ill.


It would be very fringe to assume this, but it would also make sense if he was some sleeper that was trigger into doing this. Such an assumption is foolhardy now no doubt, but it will be interesting to see what effects this will have on security to really pan out on such a lofty assumption.

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funny you should say that, upon thinking more deeply about this today...pretty sure it's just another government fear tactic to motivate the sheeple to hand over more of our personal rights and freedoms in the name of "security".

I wonder how many bills were ammended before this, or will be ammended after this. Or how much more "security" there will be for this form of transportation. I wonder what's next on the sabotage list...skytrain?Or the c-train???

Just more manipulation and mind control IMO.
But a 'possesion' as you put it earlier, is still similar enough to say a sleeper being triggered into this sort of behavior. You may be on to something before and still...or maybe this is just batshitcrazy clammering to try to come up with some sort of explanation for some one who should just be on the chair.
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Old Aug 01, 08
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people don't randomly lash out though, there is a reason why he hated lennon and its likely due to mental illness.

in this stage of my life i hate souljah boy but im not gonna run up and pop him in the dome for no gain.

plus looking at MDC's history even a professional who was very critical of diagnosing people with mental illness could see that he was definitely unbalanced.
MDC'S case runs abit deeper then that,

he had a deep rooted obsession,passion and deity complex about lennon and the beatles since childhood.

he was also CONVINCED that he would be famous like them. living through them and through lennon.

one failure after the next in his life led up to him ultimately killing lennon.

a tad different from our mutual disdain for soulja boy...srsly FUCK soulja boy.

but anyway, im sure there were many events in the suspects life wich could influence his lash out. but the time of attack, the victim and the circumstances seem entirely random.

creeeeeeepy shit.
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Old Aug 01, 08
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Like how are they going to compromise a case by releasing this guys identity when he's already 100% confirmed as the suspect?
umm, yeah of course it could guy. think about it. people who he might be associated with could drop underground plus this just happend yesterday(days24hr)..wont be released for a few more days if that.


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What are they hiding?

We knew who the terrorists were after 9/11 a day later but they can't tell us this guys name now?

Certainly that investigation would be more sensitive to release that information but we got it anyway.
oh please, the had the suspects names all lined up ready to go before 9/11 even happend.


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Maybe some sort of backstory is being fabricated now so we don't know what went wrong during this guys 'treatment' if he was mentally ill.
submit that pablum to infowars or something. tell them that mkultra is behind it all.
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Old Aug 01, 08
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lol I like how all this talk of terrorists has the google ad's goin "Meet Single Arabs here!"
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Old Aug 01, 08
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lol I like how all this talk of terrorists has the google ad's goin "Meet Single Arabs here!"
totally wanna smash an arab chick.

smashed a persian chick, but i knows my history, it don't count.
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Smash = punch??
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punch in vagina with penis ... iirc


but thats a guess.
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Old Aug 01, 08
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they are charging the suspect with 2nd degree murder....

Holy fuck this justice system is a joke.
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Old Aug 01, 08
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^ and they did confirm that it was completly random, even though I still think somethings off about the situation.

They havent released what caused the man to be "set" off yet though, thats what im waiting for
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Old Aug 01, 08
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they are charging the suspect with 2nd degree murder....

Holy fuck this justice system is a joke.
that just sickens me.
capital punishment is the only justice he deserves.
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Old Aug 01, 08
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BECAUSE ALL DAVES ARE RIGHT, RIGHT?
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Old Aug 01, 08
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i don't think you can really argue bystander effect for this case. The kid was likely gone by the time anyone figured out what was going on and basically a few people warned everyone, got them out of the bus, trapped the man inside and disabled the bus while calling the police.

Can't really say that people just sat back and let it happen when the man is in custody right now due to some people's quick thinking.
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Old Aug 01, 08
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they are charging the suspect with 2nd degree murder....

Holy fuck this justice system is a joke.
A joke?


Something is really fishy about all this that's for sure.


The idea that his name shouldn't be released because people he might be associated with is hardly good enough, he is the only suspect in this crime, and there's nothing to investigate really they caught him in the act red handed, literally.


Something is being hidden here.

The fact that it's only 2nd degree even though it's obvious without any doubt he did it should tip anyone of something is incredibly wrong here.

But yeah we should just sit back and not care about who he is, let him get a new identity and be shipped off somewhere tropical so he can enjoy the rest of his life.

Shit like this has happened before where murderers are treated like the victims.

What about the victim...or his family?

This guy should be stoned to death or put on the chair.

He acted alone and is in custody, this isn't a bank heist its a murderer... what's the harm in releasing his identity?



If anything, people watching that may know of him or anyone he's associated with could work with authorities to tip off the whereabouts of anyone else involved.

But that is retarded because he did it himself.

What is it about this guys past that we aren't being told?


That's what interests me.
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Old Aug 01, 08
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decapitation is some serious shit. on a metaphysical level, it is said to be the worst possible death because it seperates the souls journey upwards through the chakra system..

that a little peice of the soul is forever disconnected and trapped in the body and here on earth.

this is why it is the highest form of capital punishment in some countries and the preferred method of killing infidels by extremist muslims.
i find it incredibly amusing that you ridicule the idea of possession by the devil, then entertain the idea of chakra.
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The idea that his name shouldn't be released because people he might be associated with is hardly good enough, he is the only suspect in this crime, and there's nothing to investigate really they caught him in the act red handed, literally.

they did though...


"Sgt. Brian Edmonds said that 40-year-old Vince Weiguang Li, of Edmonton, Alberta, has been charged with second degree murder. Li is due to appear in court Friday."
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Old Aug 01, 08
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^^Thanks, guess I should have refreshed the page.


2nd degree though is still awfully fishy....where's the debate on this...he thought he was gutting a human looking fish?

*shakes head*

There should be no asylum for people like this, quick swift justice, this guy should be on the chair so he can fry a bit before he dies.
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i think we should do it old world style. punish him the way he committed the crime. gut him and hang him with his small intestine.
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Old Aug 01, 08
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In Canada, murder is classified as either first or second degree.[31]
  1. First degree murder is a murder which is (1) planned and deliberate, (2) contracted, (3) committed against an identified peace officer, (4) while committing or attempting to commit one of the following offences (hijacking an aircraft, sexual assault, sexual assault with a weapon, aggravated sexual assault, kidnapping and forcible confinement or hostage taking), (5) while committing criminal harassment, (6) committed during terrorist activity, (7) while using explosives in association with a criminal organization, or (8) while committing intimidation. [32]
  2. Second degree murder is all murder which is not first degree murder.
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mhmm. and since law is partially about chances and partially about not getting second chances at your case, they obviously dont want to attempt to charge him with 1st then him be found not guilty cause it falls under 2nd. sometimes they just play it safe so they can get the fucker for sure.
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Old Aug 01, 08
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We don't know the story with this guy, but common sense will tell most of us that he is suffering from mental illness. I think when as a society we start shouting for a hanging, we become a part of the problem. It allows the gov't to continue to ignore the needs of the mentally ill. If you want changes or for these type of tragedys to be reduced, you better start pointing fingers in the right direction. Killing this man won't protect anyone from the next guy.

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Old Aug 01, 08
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This event acts as a catalyst to increase security for land based forms of public transport.I was watching the news last night, and right after the report on the decapitation they did a report on increasing security and a bunch of security specialists saying "TOLD YA SO!!!!".

We're handing over our rights out of fear, we're fearful because we don't question or when we do we ask the wrong ones.Its only a matter of time before our every movement will be so restricted and watched so closely and we only have ourselves to thank for that one.
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i dno why the guy didnt voluntarily start abusing adivan. that shits chiiiiiiiill.
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Old Aug 01, 08
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This story ruined my day. So disturbing.
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Old Aug 01, 08
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Just read a report, apparently he was was rumored to have worked with or been a part of Canadian Forces....


....very little is known about him, he isn't saying anything and the media isn't effectively digging up anything about his past.


He was said to have been acting robotically too,... anyone that knows anything about sleepers can see the parallels here.


And his name was released on a new moon.


Still very fringe right now to draw any conclusions of this being more than just a crazy random attack....but from a spiritual perspective, there are no accidents.


Bus attack victim 'never hurt a fly'
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