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Old Jul 31, 08
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Man decapitates passenger

horrific, just horrific :( what is the world coming to?

Man decapitates passenger aboard Greyhound bus in Manitoba: witness

Man decapitates passenger aboard Greyhound bus in Manitoba: witness
Bus en route to Winnipeg from Edmonton; story contains graphic details

Last Updated: Thursday, July 31, 2008 | 11:13 AM ET Comments269Recommend541CBC News

A passenger repeatedly stabbed and then decapitated a young man aboard a Greyhound bus travelling through Manitoba overnight in what appears to be a random attack, a witness said Thursday.

Police officers spent the night examining a Greyhound bus where a passenger was reportedly stabbed and decapitated late Wednesday. (John Woods/Canadian Press)The RCMP would not confirm the reports, only saying that a "major incident" took place late Wednesday evening on the bus as it drove along the Trans-Canada Highway en route to Winnipeg from Edmonton.

A man was taken into custody after an hours-long standoff with police ended around 1 a.m. near Portage la Prairie, a city about 85 kilometres west of Winnipeg, according to reports.

Passenger Garnet Caton, who was sitting in the seat in front of the victim, told CBC News in gruesome detail how he saw the attacker stab his seatmate, a young man sleeping with his headphones on.

Caton said he heard a "blood-curdling scream" and turned around to see the attacker holding a large "Rambo" hunting knife above the victim, "continually stabbing him in the chest area."

"He must have stabbed him 50 times or 60 times," said Caton.

As panicked passengers fled the bus, "the attacker was over top of the victim … continually cutting him. I think the victim was gone at that point," Caton said.

Trio tried to check on victim
Caton, the driver and a trucker who had stopped at the scene later boarded the vehicle to see if the victim was still alive.

"When we came back on the bus, it was visible at the end of the bus he was cutting the guy's head off and pretty much gutting him up," said Caton.

The attacker ran at them, Caton said, and they ran out of the bus, holding the door shut as he tried to slash at the trio.

When the attacker tried to drive the bus away, the driver disabled the vehicle, Caton said.

"While we were watching the door, he calmly walks up to the front with the head in his hand and the knife and just calmly stares at us and drops the head right in front of us," said Caton.

Acted 'like he was a robot'
Caton described the attacker as surprisingly calm. "It was like he was at the beach or something. There was no rage in him. He wasn't swearing or cursing or anything. It was just like he was a robot or something."

Police cruisers arrived about 10 minutes after the attack began, he estimates, and officers began directing passengers to school buses to take them to a hotel in Brandon.

"While we were waiting on the side of the road, [the attacker] was taunting the police with the head in his hand," said Caton.

Caton described the attacker as appearing "totally normal" earlier in the journey, even chatting with a young woman as he smoked a cigarette during a break.

But when he got back on the bus, he moved his belongings from the front to a seat beside the victim in the back and about 20 minutes later began attacking the man, said Caton. "He didn't say anything to the victim at all," said Caton.

'Pretty traumatic'
A six-year-old and other children were among the passengers who saw the horrific incident unfold, said Caton.

"It was pretty traumatic," he said, adding that some passengers said they have been unable to sleep or eat since it happened.

A chaplain and crisis team were on hand to counsel passengers at the hotel, he said.

Officers were still at the scene early Thursday and brought portable search lights to examine the bus, the CBC's Sean Kavanagh reported. Traffic was being rerouted to a side road.

Abby Wambaugh, media relations spokeswoman for Greyhound Canada, said there were 37 passengers and a driver aboard the bus.

She would not comment on what happened on the bus.

"I don't want to compromise the investigation, so any details need to be confirmed by the police," she said.
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ya man i was just watchin this on global,

completely random and unprovoked.

crazy.

must of been EXTREMELY gory. decapitation with knives is some extremely disgusting shit.

im sure the vets of the 'interents' on this board know what i mean.
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Holy Crap!! That's messed up!!
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itll be interesting to see who this guy is and what he's all about.
thats some serious ish, i think this is past mental illness and more along the lines of posession.
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^ Possesion? By what?!
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mabey his prozac fucked him up
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It could have been a ton of things that caused him to lash out.

Mental disease, racism (racial, religion, ect), drugs....the devil (?).
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i think it was terrorists
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There has to be a link between these two.

I'm not saying that there's a zero chance that this was just some random attack, but to take someones head off? Something's gotta be personal there.
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And if this guy had a mental disorder, or his mother was an alcoholic who beat him as a child, or was high or whatever, he's not going to jail... he'll be rehabilitated instead by living in a closely monitored group home and put on a shit load of Zoloft and Ativan.... plead insanity dude - it's your only hope of not going to a cell similar to that of Paul Bernardo or Clifford Olson.

I hate our "justice" system.
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decapitation is some serious shit. on a metaphysical level, it is said to be the worst possible death because it seperates the souls journey upwards through the chakra system..

that a little peice of the soul is forever disconnected and trapped in the body and here on earth.

this is why it is the highest form of capital punishment in some countries and the preferred method of killing infidels by extremist muslims.
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this is why it is the highest form of capital punishment in some countries and the preferred method of killing infidels by extremist muslims.
Heh unlike the decapitations they use do in capital punishment (which is mainly done with a sword)... This guys head was sawed off using a hunting knife...
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Heh unlike the decapitations they use do in capital punishment (which is mainly done with a sword)... This guys head was sawed off using a hunting knife...
obviously, i wasnt referring to this particular case.

i wonder if it was some poor bastard that went crazy after watching the 'russian souldier in the feild' de-cap video.
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i don't get it, why didn't somebody stop him? the guy in the seat in front, he heard a blood curdling scream and then what? just bolted? not one person on a full bus came to the kid's aid?
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shock.

would go running at a person with a knife that was stuck in someone's ribcage? we like to think we would be heroes but i'm pretty sure you'd be paralysed if you were witnessing that. there's also the psychological effect of assuming someone else will do the dirty work. can't remember the name of it though. kind of like one loaded gun in a firing squad.
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something THAT brutal is going on and you're wanting a good person to step in and likely get stabbed too?

I'm all about helping someone out, as I am sure everyone is, but everyone has their limits - this would be one of them for a lot of people.

The man was absolutely insane.... by the time someone would have stepped in, this kid was already dead.. and he was probably going to kill anyone who got in his way.
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He might not have been insane.


For all we know this was planned, or other factors were involved.


Until the police make a statement noone really knows
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shock.

would go running at a person with a knife that was stuck in someone's ribcage? we like to think we would be heroes but i'm pretty sure you'd be paralysed if you were witnessing that. there's also the psychological effect of assuming someone else will do the dirty work. can't remember the name of it though. kind of like one loaded gun in a firing squad.

Agreed, i'd like to think i would blindly charge the man with the Rambo knife, I would most likely just add to the body count. Also I would probably be freaking out, when your in an area that is dangerous you get prepared for something, a greyhound bus is not the most threatening place for me, I actually drift off to sleep pretty quick.
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He might not have been insane.

Your right... He is perfectly NORMAL!!!!
I mean after all people stab random strangers and chop there head off and carve the rest of the body like a pumpkin carving competition all the time!!!!
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Until the police make a statement noone really knows
no one will ever know what was going on in his head.


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I mean after all people stab random strangers and chop there head off and carve the rest of the body like a pumpkin carving competition all the time!!!!
false dichotomy, douche.
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use your backpack strap to tie up his arm jackie chan style?

i dont know.. i think 3 or 4 of the passengers could have tried to overpower the man with minimal knicks and scratches..

at least TRY. idk.
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