Lets get serious about the swine flu vaccive for a minute

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by dabbler

on a somewhat related note, I emailed Kraft once to ask what kind of meat was used in their pepperoni pizza. They didn't know.
Seriously, this was the email correspondence...

I'm curious to know if the pepperoni used on pizza is made with Beef?
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Thank you for visiting http://www.kraftcanada.com.

I understand that knowing what ingredients are in the food products you eat directly affect how you practice your lifestyle, and Kraft Foods does all that it can to assist its consumers in making educated food decisions.

I apologize but unfortunately we can only recommend that you check the ingredient list on the packaging. No other ingredient information is available.

Thank you for contacting us and please add our site to your favourites and visit us again soon!

Kim McMiller
Associate Director, Consumer Relations

This is a copy and paste "Read the box before you email me" letter. I send similar ones out.

[C_squared]

No point in arguing about this since I don't eat meat or meat bi-products or things that contain meat bi-products or shit like kraft dinner, so my argument will be slightly more bias.

[-evil-duerr-]

Originally Posted by dabbler

actually that would be what I don't eat, but again - don't you read the label? I assume not if you don't know what I'm talking about.

yeah but that's just processed foods and frozen insta-meal type garbage. i have a fairly healthy diet which doesn't include that stuff, not only because of the preservatives/additives but because of the high fat/salt/sugar content and low-to-no nutritional value.

even then i'm not so sure that any of the stuff they put in a frozen pizza is quite as scary sounding as the ingredients in the vaccine, i see the point you we're trying to convey but it was a bit of an exaggeration.

[Ragga_Wh0re]

Originally Posted by dabbler

oh and BTW they do release the ingredients. Just like anything that you find in the supermarket in Canada, it doesn't say the amount of each but here you are [GlaxoSmithKline supplies Canada with all of it's Flu Vaccines]

What are the ingredients of the H1N1 vaccine and adjuvant?


The H1N1 vaccine Arepanrix has been developed by GlaxoSmithKline using the egg-based production method. This means the vaccine viruses are grown in eggs. This is true for the regular flu shot as well.
The manufacturer states the level of ovalbumin (egg protein) in the adjuvanted vaccine is generally below 5-10 ng/mL. The ovalbumin level is not yet available for the unadjuvanted version of the vaccine, which will be offered to pregnant women. (For egg and other allergy concerns, be sure to read: H1N1 and Food Allergies.)
The vaccine has two components that are mixed together before the vaccine is given. The primary substance is the antigen drug substance for immunizing. It is administered with an adjuvant known as AS03.
The antigen contains: thimerosal, a mercury-based preservative used in the manufacturing of multidose vaccines, sodium chloride, disodium hydrogen phosphate, potassium dihydrogen phosphate, potassium chloride and water. As mentioned, there are traces of egg protein, and also of formaldehyde, sodium deoxycholate and sucrose.
The adjuvant AS03 is composed of: DL-alpha-tocopherol (vitamin E), squalene (shark liver oil) and polysorbate 80 (an emulsifier). In addition, its vial contains: sodium chloride, disodium hydrogen phosphate, potassium dihydrogen phosphate, potassium chloride and water. (For fish, soy allergy concerns, see H1N1 and Food Allergies.)

Well thats a start. Now if theyd release the numbers on how much is put in each vaccine thatd be super. But I do not forsee that happening. Odd, every other product you injest has to have a break down of nutritional value and percentages of ingredients...but somehow vaccines are exempt?

[dabbler]

oh ffs. nearly everything listed is stuff that we consume, - other than for people who eat entirely organic diets

ovalbumin (egg protein) - I assume this is self explanatory

thimerosal <--- this is the only ingredient that is worth worrying about, as it breaks down in your body into methyl and ethyl mercury. I completely agree that this should not be in the vaccines given to infants and children because they dont know the toxicity of ethylmercury. The level of methylmercury in each vaccine dose, is less than a can of tuna.

sodium chloride = table salt

disodium hydrogen phosphate = anti-caking additive in powdered/baking products

potassium dihydrogen phosphate = naturally occuring mineral used as Fungicide, sprayed on nearly everything we eat.

potassium chloride - table salt alternative used in nearly anything that is "low salt" on the label. Also a fertilizer, and the 3rd stage of lethal injection.

water

formaldehyde - used everywhere, and found naturally in the air we breathe. many Cheeses are aged using it, also used as fertilizer.

sodium deoxycholate = food emulsifier in some countries, used to dissolve gallstones, and is found naturally in the body. also used in the creation of corticosteroids.

sucrose = sugar

DL-alpha-tocopherol = vitamin E

squalene = shark liver oil (as opposed to cod liver oil)

polysorbate 80 = an emulsifier, found in ice cream

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by Ragga_Wh0re

Well thats a start. Now if theyd release the numbers on how much is put in each vaccine thatd be super. But I do not forsee that happening. Odd, every other product you injest has to have a break down of nutritional value and percentages of ingredients...but somehow vaccines are exempt?

What do you mean "That's a start"?

You know exactly what's in it now. You have no medical background whatsoever, if you were told the exact composition, would you be able to tell me if it was safe?

Every doctor I've talked to has said it was safe, I'm going to trust them before I trust someone regurgitating something they read online.

[mojo]

the horse is fucking dead already

[dabbler]

I guess my only point(s) are that
a) The information is actually out there, it's not some huge secret [conspiracy]. You can even find out the amount of each ingredient in the vaccine if want.
b) The ingredients are really not that scary (especially if you smoke!!) Only one is an unknown, but if you look at the fact that it's been in nearly all vaccines since the 1930's - it means your parents/grandparents took it and still had healthy kids. (that last part is just an assumption)
c) Knowledge is useful in making the decision whether or not to take the vaccine. But rather than decide with no knowledge basis, at least this thread is now a somewhat decent source of information.

[SWIFTBEATS]

I know this girl that knows ninjaboy through work and hes actually a 67 year old retired english homosexual that thinks hes still in school he was actually a gay pioneer one of the first of a new breed of gays the british johnson stashing cross dresser that takes pride in going on message boards all over the common wealth and trying to make friends with people half his age but fails due to a social retardation.

[NinjaBoy]

Originally Posted by SWIFTBEATS

I know this girl that knows ninjaboy through work and hes actually a 67 year old retired english homosexual that thinks hes still in school he was actually a gay pioneer one of the first of a new breed of gays the british johnson stashing cross dresser that takes pride in going on message boards all over the common wealth and trying to make friends with people half his age but fails due to a social retardation.

That was awesome.

Although I have a sneaking suspicion you were actually trying to insult me, in which case it's awesome in a completely different way.

[dabbler]

could. use. a. few. more. of. these.

[SWIFTBEATS]

ahhhhh its all fun n games