same-sex marriage in canada

[wum]

By fringe I mean less than 3 percent. I'll answer the rest in the morning, but for someone who quotes the Bible a lot, and then says that marriage is nothing more than a feeling is being hypocritical. You KNOW what the Bible says about marriage, and that Western culture and laws are extant Christian in it's fundamentals. Marriage would be the greatest among these.

And who ever said the spiritual authorities were cool with it? Do you mean the guys at United Church who wear rainbow colored sashes and call the Bible nothing more than interpretive literature? I wouldn't even call that a Church as they're more concerned with getting warm bodies to fill their pews by acquiescing to the PC line. They might as well be B'nai B'rith.

By my logic society can, will, and always has been the judge on what is correct and legitimate. Society deems it an abomination that a man has a sexual relationship with minors even if he's just "loving" them. As idyllic as the notion of "free to be you and me" sounds, you cannot thumb your nose at society and then hope to seek it's blessing at the same time.

As for cheapening marriage, I said plenty. A marriage as it's defined is a union between a man and a woman. If you don't follow the rules, than you have no respect for the institution. Allowing homosexuality would not strengthen marriage at all, since it doesn't even fit the definition. It would confuse the younger generation and then they might think that homosexuality was something normal. Just look at how bisexuality is all the rage.

While homosexuality occurs in nature, it is still considered a deviation as they aren't pro-creating and still comprise less than 3 percent. I really don't understand your divorced couple analogy at all, but suffice to say, the family has always been understood as a man + woman + child(ren). So even if they were infertile, I see no reason for them not being allowed to adopt.

Anyway, it's late. I'll add more if need be by the morning.

[KimmyCandy]

^^
ur an idiot
good night

[wum]

no u r

[diva]

Originally Posted by ebbomega

So are african-americans in Canada.

Quit trying to be fucking PC.
It's "black people", not "african-americans".
*rolls eyes*

that's all i have to contribute to this thread

[ebbomega]

Originally Posted by wum

By fringe I mean less than 3 percent. I'll answer the rest in the morning, but for someone who quotes the Bible a lot, and then says that marriage is nothing more than a feeling is being hypocritical. You KNOW what the Bible says about marriage, and that Western culture and laws are extant Christian in it's fundamentals. Marriage would be the greatest among these.

Oh fucking lord. Do YOU even know what the Bible says about marriage?

I'm not a fucking Christian. I disagree with it as a religion. But that's not to say that I haven't ever looked into it.

The only time homosexuality is frowned upon in the Bible is God smiting some dude for laying with another man.... but let's not even get me started on the whole lost-in-translation thing... but if you don't wanna be picking and choosing your pieces of the Bible listen up... God smote a lot of people back then for a lot of stupid menial shit. A lot of stupid menial shit that I guarantee you you don't do.

And who ever said the spiritual authorities were cool with it? Do you mean the guys at United Church who wear rainbow colored sashes and call the Bible nothing more than interpretive literature? I wouldn't even call that a Church as they're more concerned with getting warm bodies to fill their pews by acquiescing to the PC line. They might as well be B'nai B'rith.

Heh. They seem to be the ones who have the Bible figured out best. But that's besides the point. The Anglican Church is now doing it. You wanna bring back the Catholic vs. Protestant Holy War, be my guest, but it's all spiritual masturbation. Wake up and see the light, kiddo. There's a fucking world out there and it ain't what you learned about in Sunday School. It's called "Critical thinking" and it's what we adults do. If you wanna tout The Bible as Holy Text or whatever, then there's not a single denomination of Christianity that has EVER existed that ascribes to every word in it. So before you go bantering off about how the United Church picks and chooses what parts of the Bible to listen to, go pick up the Bible yourself and read yourself a clue.

By my logic society can, will, and always has been the judge on what is correct and legitimate. Society deems it an abomination that a man has a sexual relationship with minors even if he's just "loving" them. As idyllic as the notion of "free to be you and me" sounds, you cannot thumb your nose at society and then hope to seek it's blessing at the same time.

Oh fuck off and your sex-with-minors shit.

I'm sick of hearing you religious right-wing fucks calling homosexuals a bunch of fucking pedophiles. It's disgusting and outright bullshit.

As for cheapening marriage, I said plenty. A marriage as it's defined is a union between a man and a woman.

For the last time, where the hell did you get this definition?

If you don't follow the rules, than you have no respect for the institution. Allowing homosexuality would not strengthen marriage at all, since it doesn't even fit the definition. It would confuse the younger generation and then they might think that homosexuality was something normal. Just look at how bisexuality is all the rage.

*munches on popcorn*
*plays count-the-non-sequiturs*

Wow. Just wow.

While homosexuality occurs in nature, it is still considered a deviation

... from the gene pool....

as they aren't pro-creating and still comprise less than 3 percent.[/quote]

I like your 3%. How arbitrary of you. Tell me, what scientific process did you go through to decide that?

I really don't understand your divorced couple analogy at all,

What a shocker.

but suffice to say, the family has always been understood as a man + woman + child(ren). So even if they were infertile, I see no reason for them not being allowed to adopt.

http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...non%20sequitur

You're making no sense in this post whatsoever.

[Jen-E-03]

yay canada!! I'm happy that sasme-sex marrigaes are legal in Canada...ppl who love eachother should b able to get married regardless of sex.

[wum]

Let’s just say you can’t superficially quote the Bible to support your point when you are obvious against it, and when the Bible is also against it. If Sodom and Gomorrah were turned into Lakes of burning Sulfur for being bastions of homosexuality, how in the world do you make the logical jump that God would bless a homosexual marriage? First you try this Bible angle, and now you say why not use New Age PC thinking? I’m sorry, stick to one or the other, but don’t combine the two to form some kind of hybrid argument.

My definition of marriage comes from tradition, culture, and legal precedent. Before this homosexuals were not allowed to get married and this was understood. The 3 percent figure comes from the scientific process that is reading my biology textbook. The Rainbow Coalition would put it at 10 percent, but like the cig companies they’re mostly looking for replacement customers. lol

The rest of your post is vague obscenities not worth addressing, but I suggest you take it down a notch. It’s not your place to say what the Bible REALLY meant, just to satisfy Liberal thinking, or what traditions do or do NOT matter, especially when you are the minority. It’s quite hypocritical to accuse ME of non-sequiturs when your whole argument hinges on casting all tradition and logic into vagueness. Not the best foundation:

“Oh, well the Bible didn’t REALLY mean that. Can we trust anything about anything really? I don’t like that tradition; it doesn’t make sense to me. I’m not sure about anything! Beats me, homosexual marriage it is!”

The burden of proof is not mine. It’s up to you to tell me how/why homosexual marriage should be considered normal (hard to see when they are a very small minority) and why the heterosexual majority should accept it as such.

[Ms.Chop]

Originally Posted by wum

By fringe I mean less than 3 percent. I'll answer the rest in the morning, but for someone who quotes the Bible a lot, and then says that marriage is nothing more than a feeling is being hypocritical. You KNOW what the Bible says about marriage, and that Western culture and laws are extant Christian in it's fundamentals. Marriage would be the greatest among these.

i read this and i didnt even care to read the rest...

.. bahh enough.. im not reading this anymore... it jus.. makes me... wanna murder ppl.