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Old Dec 11, 04
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New govt program forcefully drugs pregnant women

Body: Mandatory mental health screening program would dose pregnant women with prescription drugs that cause birth defects

News Target | December 2, 2004

Bureaucrats in Chicago are currently discussing a proposal to require the mental health screening of all pregnant women and children up to the age of 18 years old. The purported mission of the program is to protect the health of the public by diagnosing mental disorders before they become full blown problems -- but in reality, as we've seen from similar programs in the past, the real mission is to diagnose people with fictitious brain diseases and behavioral disorders, then dose them with highly toxic prescription drugs that not only generate profits for pharmaceutical companies, but also for the psychiatrists who prescribe them.

What's especially frightening about this program is that it may include the dosing of pregnant women with prescription drugs that we now know increase the risk of birth defects. We also know from clinical trials and experiments involving mice that children who grow up on antidepressant drugs have a much higher risk of being depressed as adults whether or not they continue taking those drugs.

In other words, it's not enough that as a nation we misdiagnose childhood hyperactivity caused by sugar consumption as being a brain chemistry imbalance and then dose all those children with Ritalin, it seems that we also want to start dosing pregnant women as well. Who's next? Are we going to dose all men under the age of 30? Are we going to require the mental health screening of all elderly people, and start dosing everyone over the age of 65 with brain altering drugs too?

There seems to be no limit to how far the highly corrupt psychiatry community and prescription drug companies will carry this to exert control over the population and generate obscene profits. And the truth is that anyone can be diagnosed with a mental disorder given sufficient creativity on the part of the psychiatrists. If a person is too creative and excited, they have Attention Deficit Disorder.

If they're not creative enough, they have a reading disorder. And if they get nervous while being observed by the psychiatrist, they obviously have a social anxiety disorder. See? It doesn't take much to invent behavioral disorders and then come up with fraudulently marketed drugs that claim to mask symptoms of those disorders.

Welcome to Insane USA, where the mission of the pharmaceutical industry seems to be: let's put as many people as possible on as many brain altering drugs as possible. And, if you've noticed, the whole idea of diagnosing disease has shifted over the last ten years from diseases that had measurable symptoms (such as high cholesterol, high blood pressure or cancer tumors) to diseases that are largely subjective and have no objective definition.

There is no definition of Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) that can be confirmed by a lab test. It is a completely fictitious disease that has literally no verifiable biochemistry or physiology. It's simply a matter of one psychiatrist walking in, pointing at a child and saying "Oh, he has a disorder -- let's put him on drugs!" And ignorant parents tend to go right along with it because they haven't done the math on drugs, and they're not aware of the dangerous side effects of these toxic prescriptions.

What we really need in this country are laws that ban dosing children with mind-altering drugs. If anything, our children need to be set free from the chemical prisons erected by psychiatrists, over-zealous school administrators and, of course, pharmaceutical companies.

http://www.newstarget.com/002566.html

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can we get a link, that sounds like some serious fear-mongering.
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yeah no shit i want to read.
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so much of this stuff sounds like conspiracy BS how boring
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Old Dec 11, 04
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can we get a link, that sounds like some serious fear-mongering.
http://www.newstarget.com/002566.html

If you want more info on medication programing...

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...1/140125.shtml

http://www.weholdthesetruths.org/Civ...-childrenl.htm

http://www.infowars.com/articles/bra..._amendment.htm

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/ar...TICLE_ID=41606

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so much of this stuff sounds like conspiracy BS how boring
Sorry man...No one forced you to believe any of this, So take your own responsabilities and go get your own info if your not happy.

Everyone are concerned by medical industries, so before saying its boring, read the info and post your own critics and opinion...

It won't help anyone if your just there complaning on any source of information.
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but it will sure as hell help me complain
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The President's New Freedom Commision on Mental Health was organized in June 2002, and met until April of 2003 when it gave a Final Report to the President. The commision was then disolved.






If you are interested in the details of this bill I recommend you read through the Executive Summary and draw your conclusions from there. All 4 of those sources aren't exactly what I'd call "reliable". If this was actually going to happen CNN would be over that like a dirty shirt.





You can read the executive summary of the report HERE

NOWHERE in this report does it suggest manditory medication for pregnant women or children. Screening is only recommended for pregnant women of re-occuring mental health problems.

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The federal bill on its face does not require mandatory mental health testing to be imposed upon states or local schools, explained Serkes.
However, the HHS appropriations bill contains block grant money that will likely be used – as is often the case with block funding – by the various states to implement mandatory psychological testing programs for all students in the school system.

The PR rep for the AAPS (note that she is just the Meida Representative, and has no medical background), Kathryn Serkes, is speculating that this is what the money in the grant blocks will be used for.

The bill suggests screening for children and pregnant women to prevent re-occuring mental health problems, the solution that is recommended by the bill is that a nurse (it is reinforced that it be a trained nurse and not a paraprofessional) vist the homes of high-risk pregnant women during the first year of the child's life.

Again, if you are interested in the details of this bill I recommend you read through the Executive Summary and draw your conclusions from there.

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Okay...Here it is, you will find the necesairy info on this site:

http://www.newstarget.com/002566.html
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seee conspiracy BS if no credible news agency will pick it up most likley your getting a distorted story
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^Well well well...I see, since your so bright, why not bringing out your own ideas, thoughts and info, and then we will deside what is still credible!
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show me a credible news website and I will beleive untill then to me this is simple fear mongering and conspiracy theories against society
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Sorry man...No one forced you to believe any of this, So take your own responsabilities and go get your own info if your not happy.

Everyone are concerned by medical industries, so before saying its boring, read the info and post your own critics and opinion...

It won't help anyone if your just there complaning on any source of information.
I hate the medical industry and the pharmaceutical companies. My mom had chronic asthma for years and she went to every doctor and all they did was push pills that she became dependent on. When she finally tried herbal remedies she got better just like that.
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show me a credible news website and I will beleive untill then to me this is simple fear mongering and conspiracy theories against society
^ho I get it, you need a public reportage of people getting druged under governmental programing, so the source you need to be looking with is your eyes and use your brains, we know what is ''pharmaceutical industry'' like, and the benefits coming from it are billions of dollars, the source is not FOX news, sorry!
This is still recent news, that needs much more evidence for to be proven publicly, indeed...Its a article that needs to be approached a way or other, there is all ready children with mind-altering drugs what do you need more?
And the question on public evidence will still stay how will it be presented to citizens (depending your source information of course)???

http://www.exega.com/adhd/article290.htm
http://www.parapolitics.info/phorum...=33&i=266&t=266
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how about any credible news agency CNN ABC NBC CBS
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^^ Don't expect those corporate whores to be your watch dog.
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So i should listen to the crackhead typing dribble all over the net Im sorry but without hard facts that cant be twisted im just sorry but no..
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I'm just saying why don't you check out those links before giving the whole "tin foil hat ROFLZMAO!!1" stuff.
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lazy and for the simple fact I havent heard of them before if this was true the Democratic leaning new groups woulod be all over this like a fat kid on cake..
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Old Dec 13, 04
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A check of the REST of the 'newstarget' articles shows that it has a very heavy slant against the pharmaceutical industry. It's a bit sensationalist, so take it with a big big grain of salt. There are some good points here and there, but they're almost outweighed by the selective articles.
Here's a review of what message you'll get reading the article titles:

Man-made things are really bad.
Things from nature are really good.


In reality, it works both ways.
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^ i prefer nature
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Natural products don't always work for everything nor everyone, though.
It's good for people to try them out, but the people who sell natural products obviously need to make money too. So some will push things on people that cannot and will not help their problems, or give them too much, etc.

Basically it comes down to doing your own research as much as possible and questioning your doctor about the medications. If he can't/won't tell you why he chose something, maybe look for a new one who takes more interest in helping you understand what he's giving you.
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Old Dec 13, 04
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^Herbal medication can be as much effective and a good treatment, it all depens on how the treatment is done and depending on what the person has...
Don't you wonder why there is thousand of scientifics every year that go into nature and look for new miracle treatments?Simply cause nature has much more to offer, depending all how you use it of course!

Not all doctors use mosts of the herbal treatments, cause you need alot of knowledge and it is much less of a benefit financiely, I honestly believe much more in Nature then the pharmaceutical industry!

Maybe I am rong, maybe not, but personaly, when you buy a box of pills incredibly expensive(That is more expensive every year) and you fall on treatments that you feel had no effects on you, honestly its a total wastes of money there is so many junky shit out there!
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most pharmaceutical drugs are based on based on products already found in nature, except they just extract the active ingredient and then mass produce it. how can a synthetic copy be as good as the original thing? how can something made in a lab be as good for our bodies as something that humans have been using for thousands of years?
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Neither are better, just different.

All of them are pretty much foreign agents altering your body and mind in various ways. when you look at it this way, you don't focus on the source as much because almost all of it is external stuff put in the body.

So yeah. Use what works. Learn why or why it doesn't. ;)
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