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Old Jan 16, 05
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theres no stopping me now.. muahahahaha... once i have you in the palm of my hand the world will be mine... muhahaha...

what ever... i do what i want!!!
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Old Jan 16, 05
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Yes, albeit a theory, there still is a mountain of evidence that supports the theory. Still anything can be wrong in the scope of the universe were our laws of physics can bend, twist and distort. So i think you guys should hug.

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hell yea

i just believe what i can see and understand... i cant see god or a higher being so i dont belive it

Yeh but i still believe in a things we can't see or touch. Our minds are alot more powerful then we give it credit!
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Old Jan 16, 05
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i dont buy the fact we were once monkeys. it just seems so far out, though some of us look like monkeys doesn't mean we were once them. i beleive that once you die, you're not going to know what's going on anyways cause you're dead..so why worry about it?..i don't really care how i got here, and i won't really care unless someone presents me with the hard foshure scientific facts, not some theory, book, or opinion.
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Old Jan 16, 05
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yea.. well thats your opinion.. not mine... that was the purpose of this thread.. (people opinions)(but some people cough errm.miss myra cough cough.... freak out about nothing) cough cough
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Old Jan 16, 05
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evolution or god??

i dont think it really matters...even if evolution can be proved, there is still nothing that can say god doesnt exist...

basically its up to the person to believe what they want..
my mind is not made up on this topic i just have an open mind to different ideas
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Old Jan 16, 05
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"come get your freak on at club freak on"

anyone know this quote???? and where its from
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Old Jan 16, 05
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yea.. well thats your opinion.. not mine... that was the purpose of this thread.. (people opinions)(but some people cough errm.miss myra cough cough.... freak out about nothing) cough cough
I dont think she's freaking out, it is a msgboard btw.
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Old Jan 16, 05
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yea.. well thats your opinion.. not mine... that was the purpose of this thread.. (people opinions)(but some people cough errm.miss myra cough cough.... freak out about nothing) cough cough

Yeah, I'm sure freaking out over here. :p

I'm interested, can you post a few reliable sources for everyone to read to backup your opinion that evolution is fact? I'm actually completely interested in seeing this, for real.
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(shhh.. im trying to get a reaction out of her cause its fun to see people get uptight about shit)( dont tell her i told you)
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Old Jan 16, 05
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oh noes a reaction? BRB KILLING MYSELF.
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Old Jan 16, 05
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i dont buy the fact we were once monkeys. it just seems so far out, though some of us look like monkeys doesn't mean we were once them.
did you really just type that?

i didn't know that there were still people who believed that we evolved from monkeys. here's how it went: there was a line of species that branched into two. one of the branches started the evolution of humans and the other the evolution of monkeys. the point is that there was a so-called 'ape-like ancestor' that we evolved from. (theoretically.)
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Yeah, I'm sure freaking out over here. :p

I'm interested, can you post a few reliable sources for everyone to read to backup your opinion that evolution is fact? I'm actually completely interested in seeing this, for real.

if i have time.. i mostly read it in books at school... and i took an anthropology class in colledge (which pretty much tells it all)

http://encarta.msn.com/encnet/refpag...12&sec=-1&pn=1

Human Evolution, lengthy process of change by which people originated from apelike ancestors. Scientific evidence shows that the physical and behavioral traits shared by all people evolved over a period of at least 6 million years.

One of the earliest defining human traits, bipedalism—walking on two legs as the primary form of locomotion—evolved more than 4 million years ago. Other important human characteristics—such as a large and complex brain, the ability to make and use tools, and the capacity for language—developed more recently. Many advanced traits—including complex symbolic expression, such as art, and elaborate cultural diversity—emerged mainly during the past 100,000 years.

Humans are primates. Physical and genetic similarities show that the modern human species, Homo sapiens, has a very close relationship to another group of primate species, the apes. Humans and the so-called great apes (large apes) of Africa—chimpanzees (including bonobos, or so-called pygmy chimpanzees) and gorillas—share a common ancestor that lived sometime between 8 million and 6 million years ago. The earliest humans evolved in Africa, and much of human evolution occurred on that continent. The fossils of early humans who lived between 6 million and 2 million years ago come entirely from Africa.

Most scientists distinguish among 12 to 19 different species of early humans. Scientists do not all agree, however, about how the species are related or which ones simply died out. Many early human species—probably the majority of them—left no descendants. Scientists also debate over how to identify and classify particular species of early humans, and about what factors influenced the evolution and extinction of each species.




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All species of organisms originate through the process of biological evolution. In this process, new species arise from a series of natural changes. In animals that reproduce sexually, including humans, the term species refers to a group whose adult members regularly interbreed, resulting in fertile offspring—that is, offspring themselves capable of reproducing. Scientists classify each species with a unique, two-part scientific name. In this system, modern humans are classified as Homo sapiens.

The mechanism for evolutionary change resides in genes—the basic units of heredity. Genes affect how the body and behavior of an organism develop during its life. The information contained in genes can change—a process known as mutation. The way particular genes are expressed—how they affect the body or behavior of an organism—can also change. Over time, genetic change can alter a species’s overall way of life, such as what it eats, how it grows, and where it can live.

Genetic changes can improve the ability of organisms to survive, reproduce, and, in animals, raise offspring. This process is called adaptation. Parents pass adaptive genetic changes to their offspring, and ultimately these changes become common throughout a population—a group of organisms of the same species that share a particular local habitat. Many factors can favor new adaptations, but changes in the environment often play a role. Ancestral human species adapted to new environments as their genes changed, altering their anatomy (physical body structure), physiology (bodily functions, such as digestion), and behavior. Over long periods, evolution dramatically transformed humans and their ways of life.

Geneticists estimate that the human line began to diverge from that of the African apes between 8 million and 5 million years ago (paleontologists have dated the earliest human fossils to at least 6 million years ago). This figure comes from comparing differences in the genetic makeup of humans and apes, and then calculating how long it probably took for those differences to develop. Using similar techniques and comparing the genetic variations among human populations around the world, scientists have calculated that all people may share common genetic ancestors that lived sometime between 290,000 and 130,000 years ago.

http://encarta.msn.com/encyclopedia_...Evolution.html


there ya go.. that didnt take long.. since there are thousands of sites about it
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About 98.5 percent of the genes in people and chimpanzees are identical, making chimps the closest living biological relatives of humans. This does not mean that humans evolved from chimpanzees, but it does indicate that both species evolved from a common ape ancestor.
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anyways.. ill leave it at that... let people discuss there OPINIONS
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Old Jan 16, 05
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did you really just type that?

i didn't know that there were still people who believed that we evolved from monkeys. here's how it went: there was a line of species that branched into two. one of the branches started the evolution of humans and the other the evolution of monkeys. the point is that there was a so-called 'ape-like ancestor' that we evolved from. (theoretically.)
whoa i did not know that...haha obviously you can tell im not so educated :P
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Old Jan 16, 05
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Have any of you watched "Waking Life" its a wonderful DVD. There is this old professor who talks about this theory of telescoping evolution. That things evolve faster and faster over a long period of time. Was very interesting. I recommend you watch the dvd.
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You've just shown me what evolution was, I know what it is. I'm trying to say that it is theory based on facts. Although it is an overwhelimngly convincing theory. Facts rely on empirical data- nobody was there, there was no data gathered, so how can it be fact?

Based on facts, we can see that scientists can theoretically connect the dots using some evidence found, but I really want to see something that says that this is a fact, and something that all scientists can agree on, because with evidence as it stands right now, they still can't.
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Old Jan 16, 05
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hell yea^^^^

i just believe what i can see and understand... i cant see god or a higher being so i dont belive it
Thats how I use to take things...I believe only in what I see and not what my mind and others mind sees...You can make in your mind a huge imagination territory but some people seem to not understand the difference between Reality and Imagination...And thats what I ment before...

only if you are surrealists on reality witch is something to not play with if you live with others...

I like people with imagination but I hate it when it surpasses there life and others life style...Don't forget that we breath air, we eat like human beings, we have effective needs, only our imagination can run over this, and thats basicaly one of the problemes of people that there belief become there life style...

Basicaly its the same thing as saying: hoo the other person infront of me thinks Im a bad person, but how can you tell if you cant read in his mind?WEll you can't, the only way you will know is asking him the question and he gives you a honests answer...And thats basicaly something that bothers me in certain religions, come on people stay in the real world, I have no probleme of the fact that your imagination can run over you once in a while, but when it becomes the everyday life style and your life style becomes your dream world you gonna have probleme mixing reality and imagination when the moment comes....

''Art is pretty much a world between them two, cause it is a part of your imagination into reality but its not what you do everyday only what you make everyday...'' So I would advice for those that have lived alot with religion to try out ART even if they doubt they have the capacity, believe me if you have the capacity to have a part of you to be imaginery then you will have no probleme doing ART....anyway do what you want as long as it doesn't harm anybody

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Have any of you watched "Waking Life" its a wonderful DVD. There is this old professor who talks about this theory of telescoping evolution. That things evolve faster and faster over a long period of time. Was very interesting. I recommend you watch the dvd.
I own that DVD... it made me think... very interesting concepts and ideas. It took my whole paradigm and view of life and threw it into a blender and served it to me. At least it put an Umbrella in it...
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evolution is a THEORY, theoreis are NOT fact, they are assumptions which are a unification and basis of empricial evidence but they are NOT fact.

there is no such thing as universial facts, we can find evidence that will blow the theory of evolution away as as the theory that atoms are the smallest thing in the universe which was proven not to be true. our understand of the world changes all the time
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Old Jan 16, 05
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I believe 100% in creationism - but thats my view and im not going to go further because everyone yells at me about it

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well. you aint gonna get much more outta me unless you go see a anthropologist...

all the peices of evolution fit together so well that it becomes a fact.....

everything is once a theory until proven .. then it becomes a fact..

check out those links above... obviously im not a scientist .. otherwise i would take you to my lab and prove it with experiments and shit like that...

They use carbon 14 dating to specify the age of certain artifacts and bones.. and can peice together a time line of historical events that helped to shape mankind
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Thats how I use to take things...I believe only in what I see and not what my mind and others mind sees...You can make in your mind a huge imagination territory but some people seem to not understand the difference between Reality and Imagination...And thats what I ment before...

only if you are surrealists on reality witch is something to not play with if you live with others...

I like people with imagination but I hate it when it surpasses there life and others life style...Don't forget that we breath air, we eat like human beings, we have effective needs, only our imagination can run over this, and thats basicaly one of the problemes of people that there belief become there life style...

Basicaly its the same thing as saying: hoo the other person infront of me thinks Im a bad person, but how can you tell if you cant read in his mind?WEll you can't, the only way you will know is asking him the question and he gives you a honests answer...And thats basicaly something that bothers me in certain religions, come on people stay in the real world, I have no probleme of the fact that your imagination can run over you once in a while, but when it becomes the everyday life style and your life style becomes your dream world you gonna have probleme mixing reality and imagination when the moment comes....

''Art is pretty much a world between them two, cause it is a part of your imagination into reality but its not what you do everyday only what you make everyday...'' So I would advice for does that have lived alot with religion to try out ART even if they doubt they have the capacity, believe me if you have the capacity to have a part of you to be imaginery then you will have no probleme doing ART....anyway do what you want as long as it doesn't harm anybody

humans are here for one reason .. and one reason only... to fuck and make babies... why do you think people cheat on each other.. adultery is the top most reason for devorce in marriges.. because its in our genes to reproduce...
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